Warning: Political Takes Mullen gets the Wutang

Bernardo de la Paz

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So they wouldn't have died from the flu also? This isn't some Jack the Ripper who is slashing people's throats...it's a flu and most people over 75 with any other complication usually dies from the flu a majority of the time they get it.

But lets put you on point for a second....if there were no other complications involved how many do you think would have died so far? Covid and Covid alone....
I didn't ask if the flu would have killed them, I asked what did kill them.

But in reference to your other question, if there were far fewer old sick people in the population there would be far fewer covid deaths. Maybe like in India.
 

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Saban seemed to dominate the virus in like 24 hours, bet Mullen struggles for weeks with it. Shows you who has the killer instinct. LOL
 

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But lets put you on point for a second....if there were no other complications involved how many do you think would have died so far? Covid and Covid alone....
Right, because we live in a world where nobody has any underlying conditions except for maybe 1 percent of the population. Rarely when I leave my basement do I run into another American who is in poor health. In fact when I travel the world, the one common theme that foreigners always mention when they hear my American accent is how darn healthy everyone is over here.
 

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Im curious. Why didnt Mullinz magical cotton masks prevent this?

It is really tragic that weve lost so many players and coaches already.
 

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1.8 million people died from TB during the 2018 pandemic.
No, it was 1.3 million worldwide, with about 600 of them from the US. So roughly one out of every 500,000 people. But other than that, great point.
 

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No, it was 1.3 million worldwide, with about 600 of them from the US. So roughly one out of every 500,000 people. But other than that, great point.
Ive seen both numbers. The 1.8 number is the died with both TB and AIDS.

I thought we get to count anyone with a positive test? It is hard to keep up with the rules.
 

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Enough with the straw man arguments. Post sources accounting for the extra 280k us deaths so far this year. Not just random words like "car accidents, suicides, etc." Actual sources with data and studies for why there are so many more deaths. Otherwise, you are just playing mental gymnastics.
 

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Well over 70% of those who tested positive said they ALWAYS wear a mask....of the remaining 30% half who tested positive said they wore a mask MOST of the time...this according to the CDC themselves...
 

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It is really tragic that weve lost so many players and coaches already.
See this right here is the part where the deniers simply capitulate on the numbers and pivot to the exact stance that guys like Bernie and others have been saying anyway. No need for young and otherwise healthy people to worry about this. This obvious pivot from one argument to another is just the last death throes of a failed argument where the loser is trying to pretend that they are making the same argument as the winner in a desperate lunge for the high ground. Fail.
 

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But the rest of the World is so much healthier.....remember....:lol:
No that was about Italy and the like. Roughly 1.1million of the 1.3 million TB cases came from filthy places like Africa and SW Asia.
 

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Enough with the straw man arguments. Post sources accounting for the extra 280k us deaths so far this year. Not just random words like "car accidents, suicides, etc." Actual sources with data and studies for why there are so many more deaths. Otherwise, you are just playing mental gymnastics.
I have a feeling a woman got to you, too.
 

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Have you looked at their covid death rates....:lol2:
Different countries test different amounts of people, test them in different ways, have different levels of hospital care, etc. There is only so much comparing that can be done in this manner. India (you know in SW Asia) has almost as many cases as the US does but they test only about 20% as many people per capita as in the US. The little African countries have such shytty infrastructure that who TF knows if any of their reports are accurate at all.

As to the bigger picture, just imagine this: You sit at a desk every day and there is a pile of new death certificates that show up in your inbox routinely. It is one thing if you keep getting a normal sized pile of death certificates but you notice that suddenly a lot of these things are being marked as covid instead of some other traditional thing like the flu. It is quite another thing when the size of that pile of death certificates is getting noticeably bigger than it normally is. Even without reading the cause of death you can plainly see there are more deaths for some reason or another. The excess deaths are a fact sir, I don't know what more proof that you need.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...arliest..2020-09-27&country=~USA&region=World

When the normal amount of Americans that die in a month goes up from around 230,000 to over 310,000 and you can't see that something is going on, there isn't anything else to even talk about.
 

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