Conceal carry anyone?

G8trwood said:

And yet there are still tons of guys doing similar work who drive around with their gear on the seat vs on their body........ but it’s uncomfortable, I can’t get to it...

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NOLAGATOR said:

She won't carry it. I like a little weight. So I may get it for her...and me. I may get a pocket gun.

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CDGator said:

What, if anything, did your wife decide on? I’d like something else for CC but without the big recoil.

I rely on my S&W 38 bodyguard for travel and home. Simple to use in an emergency. If we had time (like when the swat team was trying to find someone hiding on our road) we have other better home defense options. My 38 is not ideal in all scenarios and would like something else but “limp wrist” is an issue for me. Sad but true. Seedy’s choices are just too much for my small frame.

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Bushmaster said:

Be careful who ya shooting. 40 years ago, a lady in my home town shot her daughter in the face and killed her. Thought she was a burglar. Daughter trying to sneak in after curfew. Sad.

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Swamp Donkey said:

a friend of mine is a retired cop. he got his mother (RIP) who was in her 80s at the time and struggling physically one of those 6 shot 32 HR magnums. i know some who recommend 22 magnum for that scenario.

not my cup of tea but if you struggle with limpwristing a small pistol, you will really struggle with 38 snub. there are some really light recoiling 38 designed for snubbies but at that point you might be better off with the 32 (and get one more round).

re limpwristing: I was working with a small female shooter, of very slight build. I'd guess like maybe even less than 5 feet and like 95 pounds. very experienced, her form was PERFECT, but she still struggled with rapid follow up shots. she isn't particularly strong of course. the key however was to squeeze the gun more (squeezing the lemon we say) with both palms and particularly the UPPER part of the off hand (squeezing into the frame with the base of the thumb). this helped a bunch. the other thing she needed to do was use her shoulders too. those are large muscles and for some reason people forget to tense them up. JUST before you fire you should be tensing your forearms, triceps, upper arms, your shoulders and even your back. it matters less for big dudes, but for smaller people it is important.

more limpwristing: it is just a fact that smaller guns require more faithful wristlock. Bigger guns have a bigger upper slide and less recoil spring. Try something like a G19 or similar sized gun. You will be surprised how much less it recoils and how much easier it is to operate

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Swamp Donkey said:

Or your brother who drove into town for a surprise visit and used his own key so as to not wake you.

Or even the drunk neighbor kid, who you love, but who knows you keep a few cases of beer in your garage and knows you wouldnt mind if he took one or two.

All shotguns and really all home guns should have a light on them. they are cheap and easy to mount these days. if not, you should know how to use your flashlight.

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Concrete Helmet said:

But I guarantee you one thing and that is this.... ain't no one who knows me coming inside my house for a surprise visit or to take even one of my beers....

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CDGator said:

What, if anything, did your wife decide on? I’d like something else for CC but without the big recoil.

I rely on my S&W 38 bodyguard for travel and home. Simple to use in an emergency. If we had time (like when the swat team was trying to find someone hiding on our road) we have other better home defense options. My 38 is not ideal in all scenarios and would like something else but “limp wrist” is an issue for me. Sad but true. Seedy’s choices are just too much for my small frame.

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NOLAGATOR said:

Bersa .380

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CDGator said:

Thanks, I’ll check into it. Sorry if you already posted about it. I was about 4 pages behind and didn’t read everything.

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NOLAGATOR said:

They are under $300 new. (Ammo is a B!^@# to get)
They are not the best nor are the they real accurate at long distance
BUT it's nice for the price and it does what I wanted. It meets my objective.

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Swamp Donkey said:

a friend of mine is a retired cop. he got his mother (RIP) who was in her 80s at the time and struggling physically one of those 6 shot 32 HR magnums. i know some who recommend 22 magnum for that scenario.

not my cup of tea but if you struggle with limpwristing a small pistol, you will really struggle with 38 snub. there are some really light recoiling 38 designed for snubbies but at that point you might be better off with the 32 (and get one more round).

re limpwristing: I was working with a small female shooter, of very slight build. I'd guess like maybe even less than 5 feet and like 95 pounds. very experienced, her form was PERFECT, but she still struggled with rapid follow up shots. she isn't particularly strong of course. the key however was to squeeze the gun more (squeezing the lemon we say) with both palms and particularly the UPPER part of the off hand (squeezing into the frame with the base of the thumb). this helped a bunch. the other thing she needed to do was use her shoulders too. those are large muscles and for some reason people forget to tense them up. JUST before you fire you should be tensing your forearms, triceps, upper arms, your shoulders and even your back. it matters less for big dudes, but for smaller people it is important.

more limpwristing: it is just a fact that smaller guns require more faithful wristlock. Bigger guns have a bigger upper slide and less recoil spring. Try something like a G19 or similar sized gun. You will be surprised how much less it recoils and how much easier it is to operate

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Swamp Donkey said:

a friend of mine is a retired cop. he got his mother (RIP) who was in her 80s at the time and struggling physically one of those 6 shot 32 HR magnums. i know some who recommend 22 magnum for that scenario.

not my cup of tea but if you struggle with limpwristing a small pistol, you will really struggle with 38 snub. there are some really light recoiling 38 designed for snubbies but at that point you might be better off with the 32 (and get one more round).

re limpwristing: I was working with a small female shooter, of very slight build. I'd guess like maybe even less than 5 feet and like 95 pounds. very experienced, her form was PERFECT, but she still struggled with rapid follow up shots. she isn't particularly strong of course. the key however was to squeeze the gun more (squeezing the lemon we say) with both palms and particularly the UPPER part of the off hand (squeezing into the frame with the base of the thumb). this helped a bunch. the other thing she needed to do was use her shoulders too. those are large muscles and for some reason people forget to tense them up. JUST before you fire you should be tensing your forearms, triceps, upper arms, your shoulders and even your back. it matters less for big dudes, but for smaller people it is important.

more limpwristing: it is just a fact that smaller guns require more faithful wristlock. Bigger guns have a bigger upper slide and less recoil spring. Try something like a G19 or similar sized gun. You will be surprised how much less it recoils and how much easier it is to operate

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Gator By Marriage said:

Lot of wisdom here.

I have known many a smaller frame female who was an effective shooter with a semi-auto. The limp wristing issue is in my experience due to either a shooter not holding the weapon/positioning their body properly (great point about the shoulders) or just not paying proper attention as opposed to a strength issue. Back when I was an instructor (long, long ago) we tended to notice that the folks who had this issue tended to have other issues such as anticipating the gun going off. Once we corrected that issue the other problems started taking care of themselves. Full disclosure: My instructor time was all on a LE range so rarely were lighter frame weapons present. The semi autos were all 9's, 357's, 40's, or 45's and almost exclusively Sigs, & Glocks, and to a lesser extent S&Ws, or Berettas.

For anyone who can't seem to get over the issue, I'd highly recommend practicing at the range with a few dummy rounds in your magazine. The dummy rounds, especially if someone else loads them for you, will cause you to regularly perform surprise immediate action drills (like "tap, rack, bang"). With practice, one can get good at immediate recognition and very fast at resolving the issue. Hell, even if you aren't limp wristing, I/A drills are a good idea if you are using a semi auto for self defense.

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