***OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: UF vs Ass Sniffers***

MissouriGator

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I get that. And I’m ok with those limitations in run plays if they’re working, which they have been. And the fact that Trask can also throw accurately from those RPO plays, or occasionally keep for a decent run makes even that aspect ok as well. I just don’t like the unnecessary switching of QBs in critical situations.

The ones that sometimes talk about ‘06 with Tebow and Leak are sort of misremembering. Tim was generally brought in on short yard plays when we desperately needed a battering ram. Rarely was he given 1st and 10 type settings with the game still in question. And even then I can think of several times he was stonewalled and a couple of critical fumbles that almost cost us. But in any event, he was absolutely needed and critical to us winning a couple of big games because we couldn’t run effectively and didn’t have nearly the passing attack we have now. If Jones or AR didn’t take a single snap last week, we still win big. Totally different situation than ‘06.
I keep thinking of that 06 LSU game, but perhaps my memory is faded.
 

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I get that. And I’m ok with those limitations in run plays if they’re working, which they have been.
very limited playbook like that only works for a short amount of time typically unless you have harvin or some other type game changer.

these guys are good and they they get to watch film.

I agree regarding the second quarterback thing. but that's also an apprenticeship if you will. he's not doing it just because he wants to run a wildcat, he could do that with a running back. he's doing it to get some reps for the quarterback in case one of these 300 lb guys breaks Trash. it would sure be nice if he could do it and garbage time at the end of a game when we're blowing somebody out but you must have a defense in order to blow someone out.
 

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No wonder there are some living in fear of what may happen this Saturday.
 

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The way to beat ugly is to just line up and play football. No gimmicky cute shyt or "exotic" bull****. Just line up and win your position the best you can, and play with heart and determination.
 

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Dan Mullen didn't do anything Urban wouldn't have done to his own players!

Define your morals accordingly.
 

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I agree, but we are much better on offense this year. However, we haven't faced a defense anything like ugly. That is why I think we need to score quickly and make the most of every opportunity.
And one thing about Mullen, it seems that he doesn't understand how to run the ball without running his QB. If we're going to put EJ or AR in the game, maybe let them Chuck it down the field for once.
But I would rather get the rush yards with a running back, like Pierce or Wright.
And don't take Trask out of the game!
I have a feeling that’s why we saw AR in the game this past weekend. I’m sure Mullen wanted to “mix things up” with it, but he was probably also putting something else on tape for Bangz to adjust to(not that he’s had much trouble stopping Mullen’s offense before).

I wouldn’t be shocked to get that qb draw fake, or a jump pass down on the goal line out of it, especially with them being down starters in the secondary now.
 

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It seems like Mullen gets tensed up and conservative in this game for some reason. The last two years he’s played not to lose instead of playing to win. Maybe some of that has to do with playing from behind both times, maybe some of it has to do with knowing we just didn’t/don’t have the horses to compete with them if all other things are equal. I truly believe he’s a better coach than Bangz, but Bangz is a better recruiter by far, and seems to be willing to make changes to his staff if needed. Mullen so far hasn’t shown a willingness to do that.

This Saturday is an absolute must win for him, surely he understands that. We already have one loss on the season, and so do they. The difference is that they’re unlikely to be in any jeopardy of losing another one beyond our game, and truthfully, we shouldn’t be either. This game is for a shot at Atlanta, and both sides know it.
 

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I have a feeling that’s why we saw AR in the game this past weekend. I’m sure Mullen wanted to “mix things up” with it, but he was probably also putting something else on tape for Bangz to adjust to(not that he’s had much trouble stopping Mullen’s offense before).
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there's nothing to adjust to. you're not going to play AR much differently than EJ. and they have a bazillion rolls of running quarterbacks running Mullinz offense. it's basically just a wildcat because he doesn't believe you can let first or second year quarterbacks throw.
 

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You're just not getting it. No one thinks their offense is something great. But its serviceable, better than the cocks who we let score a boatload, and with a much better run game than any team we've played including the one we gave up a million yards and lost to.

A dwag O doesn't need to be all world to beat us. They just need to be serviceable and our pathetic D may do the rest. They have proven to be serviceable. You better hope your boy Todd has a magic wand.
Counterpoint: Fuk Georgia
 

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there's nothing to adjust to. you're not going to play AR much differently than EJ. and they have a bazillion rolls of running quarterbacks running Mullinz offense. it's basically just a wildcat because he doesn't believe you can let first or second year quarterbacks throw.
While I agree with you, he did let EJ throw the ball last year against UGA and dude would have walked into the endzone had EJ not overthrew him. If I'm Mullen anytime I put our backup in I run a form of the wildcat. Create some misdirection so it freezes some lbs. Instead they always run the same thing. Get creative when your backup is in. The reason Tebow was so effective his Fr year was because 20% of the time he threw the ball. Bring back the step forward then drop back.
 

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While I agree with you, he did let EJ throw the ball last year against UGA and dude would have walked into the endzone had EJ not overthrew him. If I'm Mullen anytime I put our backup in I run a form of the wildcat. Create some misdirection so it freezes some lbs. Instead they always run the same thing. Get creative when your backup is in. The reason Tebow was so effective his Fr year was because 20% of the time he threw the ball. Bring back the step forward then drop back.

I generally agree with your thought on getting creative with Jones, or whoever is the backup at the time. No point in not keeping the opposing D honest. I just don't think it has any place in this game unless we're struggling offensively and need some big play to win near the end. We have the horses to not have to resort to that. The problem with any kind of one-off gimmick is that if it doesn't work, it not only demoralizes your team(last year with Jones, '18 with the opening flea-flicker) but it also sends the message to the defense that we don't think we can line up and beat you traditionally, and they can in turn play a little more relaxed knowing they've likely withstood the only attempt of that type play. I want to see Jones or AR as much as anyone. I just want it to be in the 4th with us in total command. If that's not likely, then it should be a longshot that they get in.
 

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I keep thinking of that 06 LSU game, but perhaps my memory is faded.

No, you're exactly right. That game was one of the few where we let Tebow have a drive or two of his own, and even throw a little more(2 TDs). The other two cases I can think of were against Usce, where we just couldn't move the ball otherwise, and Glendale. It just wasn't as prevalent, or as effective as is often spoken of and was typically centered around "need" rather than "want".
 

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If we sell out to stop the run Stetson has to beat us...Is he better or worse than Bazelak? That’s the million dollar question
That’s actually not a million dollar question. Stetson blows! May very well be the worst QB in the conference. He’s definitely in the bottom third. Fromm was a game manager that had the potential to make us pay for selling out to stop the run. Stetson doesn’t possess that ability.
 

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That’s actually not a million dollar question. Stetson blows! May very well be the worst QB in the conference. He’s definitely in the bottom third. Fromm was a game manager that had the potential to make us pay for selling out to stop the run. Stetson doesn’t possess that ability.

Their athletes do though...we can get ate up with wheel routes and bubble screens
 

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