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- Jun 30, 2014
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Lightning in a bottle.
- Jun 9, 2014
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I think I agree with this.
Never in history--until Butters-- were we stealing players from FIU.
SOS inherited a probation roster, with 15 players short, but Chimp and Butters were worse than probation. Chimp destroyed offensive depth. Then Butters buttered. We still had 70 ish scholly players but many of the 70 werent even P5 players.
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- Jun 9, 2014
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I love this part of the myth.
Matthews was All-State and MR. FOOTBALL in Mississippi. He would probably be our best QB recruit of the decade if we landed him tomorrow.
Like so many myths it just keeps getting repeated.
78 was drunk most from 75 til the mid 90s. We will have to excuse him.
- Jun 14, 2014
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What part of "Dan Mullen will be our Mark Richt" is hard for idiots here to understand?
Under Mullen we'll always be the maid of honor, never the bride. It is what it is. I've just been enjoying watching Trask and the offense this season. It's extra sweet for me since I called Trask being the best QB we had when he and Franks first showed up on campus. I'm petty like that, so this mug of smug I've been drinking all season is delicious.
That said, I'm rooting for crete-headed Dan to change his ways and take the necessary steps to prove me and the other doubters wrong, but looking at the coaches he continues to keep himself surrounded by doesn't give me much faith in that department. Virginia Tech stealing our DC might be a good start, however ;)
Under Mullen we'll always be the maid of honor, never the bride. It is what it is. I've just been enjoying watching Trask and the offense this season. It's extra sweet for me since I called Trask being the best QB we had when he and Franks first showed up on campus. I'm petty like that, so this mug of smug I've been drinking all season is delicious.
That said, I'm rooting for crete-headed Dan to change his ways and take the necessary steps to prove me and the other doubters wrong, but looking at the coaches he continues to keep himself surrounded by doesn't give me much faith in that department. Virginia Tech stealing our DC might be a good start, however ;)
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Well Richt won 2 SEC Championships, so Mullen can go ahead and get his first in 2 weeks if he wants to reach halfway to Richt status.
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Because honestly the entire mantra is not rooted in any type or reality or fact. It just became popular to say when he was hired and has stuck. But the fact is, Mullen was nearly as close to winning a NC at MSU, with all of its disadvantages, as Richt was at uga with the every conceivable advantage available. Even his only two SEC crowns were in years he had to back into Atlanta, and one featured a loss to Ron Zook and was in a terribly down East. There’s really nothing Mullen has done up to this point that aligns him with that type of underachieving.
In 2018 it was, let’s see after tennessee, then that became MsSt with their “upgrade”, then Lsu, etc. Then we were going to be slaughtered by uga and have a huge let down this season. The fact is we’ve not only swept the East, something Richt never did, no one’s even been closer than 12 points. But again, circumstances change. If we were facing 2002 Ark or 2005 Lsu in two weeks, we’d be favored by 30 points. As it is, we may be facing Alabama’s best overall team in history, and still have a chance. That’s not Richt-esque at all.
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I said our Mark Richt, not the actual Mark Richt ;) Time will tell. Like I said, I'm rooting hard for Dan. Would love him to prove me wrong.
- Jun 9, 2014
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You had only a handful of college games on, period. Probably why I wasn’t aware what a stud Matthews was.
I remember thinking you gotta be kidding me the first time I laid eyes on him. Skinny as a rail, no arm, not much of a presence. I almost felt sorry for the guy. He quickly mastered Spurrier’s offense and rewrote many of the school passing marks. He had moxie and a lot of smarts. Things were changing real fast under Spurrier.
- Jun 11, 2014
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I wrote this earlier in response to your post @Marine1, and somehow it didn't actually get posted. ...but it stayed around as a draft.
Yeah, I agree. To be on the same level as either of them he would need multiple championships and sustained success (for the Meyer level that may require multiple schools
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Yeah, I agree. To be on the same level as either of them he would need multiple championships and sustained success (for the Meyer level that may require multiple schools
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I think what is overlooked(and I'll say it for the last time)is SOS took over at a time when 2 other in state schools literally finished in the top 3-4 every year if not winning championships, AND produced MORE players on NFL rosters than anyone...EVER....UT was literally an NFL factory also, UGA was solid top 20....
Dan is doing this while those 2 in state schools and the rest of the SEC East(except UGA) is riding the short bus to the stadium and has another piss poor program(Misery)to post a W against every year....it's not his fault it is what it is...and yes he should be doing FAR better recruiting than what he's produced to this point.
I'm not even going to go into Urban since he took the brand further and faster before flaming out with the rise of Saban...he won 2 titles....nuff said.
Yes Dan is doing a decent job but lets be realistic NONE of us are going to be happy with even SEC East championships....it's all or nothing.
Dan is doing this while those 2 in state schools and the rest of the SEC East(except UGA) is riding the short bus to the stadium and has another piss poor program(Misery)to post a W against every year....it's not his fault it is what it is...and yes he should be doing FAR better recruiting than what he's produced to this point.
I'm not even going to go into Urban since he took the brand further and faster before flaming out with the rise of Saban...he won 2 titles....nuff said.
Yes Dan is doing a decent job but lets be realistic NONE of us are going to be happy with even SEC East championships....it's all or nothing.
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FWIW, although the roster was probation-depleted, the defense Spurrier inherited in 1990 was #3 in the nation in 1989.
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To your first point , yes fsu and um were a force. But we didn’t play miami(fortunately) and lost to fsu in 5 of our first 8 tries. The only difference between them and Alabama now is that we could, and did, lose to the noles and still win our conference, giving us a title. That’s no longer the case. If fsu had joined the SECEast, we would’ve won the conference in ‘91 and ‘95 during Spurrier’s entire 12 years. That’s reality.
Also, while you are correct on miami and fsu with respect to recruiting, remember the canes went under investigation in ‘93(?) and we were the beneficiary with guys like Reidel and other PB/Br/Dade guys. They went on probation and were down for about 5 years. So when we were at our best, the canes just so happened to be relatively down. That’s not a coincidence.
As far as the schedule, it’s certainly different now, but I don’t see it really as any weaker. During Spurrier’s tenure, fsu and ut were stronger than they are now obviously. But uga was weaker and Lsu was a joke. And when we made Atl, we never got an Alabama team like the one we’ll be facing next week. There’s a reason Ark(twice), Auburn(twice), and Msu all made appearances as the West winner during the first 15 years. So no, I don’t think anyone is ok with just winning the East. But if we do end up losing to the best team we face this season, it won’t be any different than 7 of Spurrier’s 12 years. We simply won’t have a title to go with it. But back then, while we could claim the SEC, often times we were the third best team in our own state. It’s not better or worse. It’s just a different time.
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If FSU had joined the SEC in the 1990's, they would have got their asses whipped two or three times a year and never sniffed a natty.
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Obviously it’s all hypothetical. But we were wiping the floor with the SEC, and then finishing the year get crushed by them. So that’s a hard argument to make. While I do agree that the ACC cakewalk aided them, they were absolutely loaded year in and year out. At a minimum, they would’ve impeded us from owning the conference the way we did from ‘90-96, which was the point I was making by bringing them up. It doesn’t really matter the name on the jersey or what conference they play in.
