Rank Trask’s 2020 vs. Tebow’s 2007 vs. Wuerffel’s 1996

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I've argued Danny was the best Gator QB of all time for years, even believing he was better than Tebow. Tebow was an absolute workhouse with a monster work ethic. I would even agree that Tebow had perhaps the best college season of all time. But given a choice, I would always take Danny. His game management, the way he hit multiple receivers, always in stride, or placed a ball where only his receiver could get it, was special. And he did it without Percy Harvin (though he did have Fred Taylor).

But now, I've got to give the nod to Trask. Different era, porous defenses, COVID, and all, he did things most college QBs don't do after four years as a starter. He looked safeties off as well as any college QB I've seen. He read defenses better than anybody to line up in that position for UF in my lifetime (and I'm really, really old). He hit the third receiver as well as Danny, but with more velocity. He hit the first receiver, long, as well as Rex, but with more touch. Some question his arm, and it's not the monster rocket Doug Johnson had, but some of that comes with his being able to hit the long pass with touch and placement, as well as all the necessary velocity.

Ten years ago, I would have said Trask was the best NFL prospect, back when pocket passing was everything. The game has changed, so that may no longer be true, but as a pure passer, as a behind-the-O-line quarterback, Trask was truly great.
 

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Since my post wasn’t serious, do I dare take this one serious? :dunno:

Unfortunately, I wish I was strictly joking. I’m sure all schools have it to a degree, but UF has some serious dysfunction among some of its own. Specifically when it comes to style of football.
 

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@Theologator , you say all that but, the SEC talent is still there and I'll bet half of the 1st 2 rounds of the NFL draft are SEC guys

Sure the talent is there, but for whatever reasons pass defense is way worse across the SEC. For example:

Bama gave up 243.5 YPG this year, vs. 183.4 last year. That’s +60 yards and about 33% more yards per game.

KY led the conference last year at 172.7 and again this year at 220.3.

By comparison, UF went from 192.0 to 258.3, +66 YPG.

That’s no criticism of Trask. He’s been great. It’s just a weird year and hard to compare his stats with other years.
 

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Ok now, how many other QBs anywhere could NEVER start a game from high school thru 3 years of college and come off the bench and be a Heisman contender? How good would Trask be with several years of playing? The guy was a back up his whole time in HS and College and then out of nowhere sets records. Completely and totally amazing.

An analogy that comes to mind isn’t great but Brad Johnson playing behind Casey Weldon then going on to a successful NFL career.
 

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Unfortunately, I wish I was strictly joking. I’m sure all schools have it to a degree, but UF has some serious dysfunction among some of its own. Specifically when it comes to style of football.

You mean the folks that disdain the 2006 & 2008 NCs because we didn’t run the fun ‘n gun? Who insist that we should have rehired SOS rather than Meyer?

Maybe if you cut your teeth as a fan 1993-96 you just want that particular magic back. And/or they see the innovations as gimmicks and see the other as more effective.

Speaking of which, where is good ol’ @Instigator?
 

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You mean the folks that disdain the 2006 & 2008 NCs because we didn’t run the fun ‘n gun? Who insist that we should have rehired SOS rather than Meyer?

Maybe if you cut your teeth as a fan 1993-96 you just want that particular magic back. And/or they see the innovations as gimmicks and see the other as more effective.

Speaking of which, where is good ol’ @Instigator?

Maybe they’re just a bunch of drunks, drug addicts, divorced guys and degenerate gamblers who are trying desperately to hang onto their hometown fanfare and are petrified that change somehow diminishes that.

Or your idea. Definitely possibly your idea also.
 

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Agree. Though one has to wonder what Wuerffel’s stats may have looked like if his coach had let him play more in the second halves instead of running out the clock. You know, like if said coach had had that “killer instinct” and cared about his QB’s Heisman candidacy.

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1. '96 Danny
2. '20 Trask
3. '07 Tebow

Winning means something. Also better UT and FSU teams faced
 

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Gimme Tebow 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Absolute warrior that was the greatest college football player of all time.
 

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1. '96 Danny
2. '20 Trask
3. '07 Tebow

Winning means something. Also better UT and FSU teams faced

If winning means something, tell me how many games Wuerffel wins quarterbacking the 2020 team.
 

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Danny 4 lineman play and start in the NFL. Mitchell, Mo, Piller and Carlisle. Carlisle outlasted them all with the Broncos I think.
 

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If winning means something, tell me how many games Wuerffel wins quarterbacking the 2020 team.

Tell me what Trask has won.

Perfect example of how impossible it is to accurately compare any of these things, whether coaches or players.

To 78's point, we lost games almost entirely because of our defense this year. So placing all emphasis on that isn't really fair. On the flipside, Trask this year(or last) didn't see one of those mid-90s fsu teams, with this year's Alabama team being the closest, but not on par defensively.

You just have to take who you prefer(see MJM and his wrong opinion). There's no formula that will magically answer who is or was best because even stats don't tell the whole story.
 

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If winning means something, how do you not put Tebow 2nd or 1st.

But then if it's all about the outcomes in games, wouldn't you also have to look at total losses, worst losses, etc? The worst loss of the bunch is probably OM in 2008, with this year's Lsu game probably a close second. Aub in '07 and the tie in '94 would be in there as well. But in any event, if wins matter, then losses(number of, opponent, and point difference) have to be considered. Wuerffel, as a starter lost to or tied '94 Aub(9-1-1), '94 fsu(10-1-1), '95 Nebraska(12-0) and '96 fsu(11-1).
 

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