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Red Herring to the fact that those players are better anyways
08 UF vs 20 Bama: Who wins?
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Red Herring to the fact that those players are better anyways
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I think the 08 team is the most talented group of players we have ever put on the field. But they were not built for the rules that are in today's game.
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It's just weird this season.
To remove some bias from the equation, let's compare '96 Florida O to '20 Florida O. Not one of this year's OL would start in '96. Not one of this year's WR would start in '96. '20's best RB would be competing with Eugene McCaslin for the 4th spot on the '96 depth chart and hoping for a few carries in garbage time, or a role on special teams. Of course Pitts would start but he's the exception.
Despite a huge talent disadvantage, '20 offense looks better on paper than '96. '20 put up crazy numbers against an all-SEC schedule.
Do we REALLY think the '20 O was actually better than '96?
Zack Piller, Ryan Kalich, Jeff Mitchell, Donnie Young, Mo Collins
Ike, Reidel, Quezzie
Fred Taylor, Terry Jackson, Eli Williams
C'mon. Be real.
So we're agreed that '96 Florida O was much better than '20 Florida O despite what the numbers tell us.
Now to '20 Bama.
'20 Bama O playing against similar competition was better than '20 Florida O (Bama had much better OL, much better RB, and better WR, but Florida had Pitts) but the difference wasn't huge. Bama's '20 O was better than Florida's '20 O but only marginally so. We put up similar numbers facing similar opponents (aTm, UGA, Ole Miss, etc.).
That tells me that '96 Florida O was probably better than '20 Bama O despite what the weird 2020 numbers tell us.
...and of course we know which team had a better defense.
That sounds a bit too definitive. Let me walk it back some. I think it is almost impossible to compare 2020 numbers to other seasons because everything was just weird in 2020. Everybody put up weird numbers in 2020. Is it fair to judge Bama's 2020 defense when nobody played defense in 2020? If the offenses aren't really as good as the numbers imply, then we must conclude that the defenses aren't really as bad as the numbers imply.
Bama is, without a doubt, the best team in college football in 2020. Hard to compare them to our '96 team.
Alex.
To remove some bias from the equation, let's compare '96 Florida O to '20 Florida O. Not one of this year's OL would start in '96. Not one of this year's WR would start in '96. '20's best RB would be competing with Eugene McCaslin for the 4th spot on the '96 depth chart and hoping for a few carries in garbage time, or a role on special teams. Of course Pitts would start but he's the exception.
Despite a huge talent disadvantage, '20 offense looks better on paper than '96. '20 put up crazy numbers against an all-SEC schedule.
Do we REALLY think the '20 O was actually better than '96?
Zack Piller, Ryan Kalich, Jeff Mitchell, Donnie Young, Mo Collins
Ike, Reidel, Quezzie
Fred Taylor, Terry Jackson, Eli Williams
C'mon. Be real.
So we're agreed that '96 Florida O was much better than '20 Florida O despite what the numbers tell us.
Now to '20 Bama.
'20 Bama O playing against similar competition was better than '20 Florida O (Bama had much better OL, much better RB, and better WR, but Florida had Pitts) but the difference wasn't huge. Bama's '20 O was better than Florida's '20 O but only marginally so. We put up similar numbers facing similar opponents (aTm, UGA, Ole Miss, etc.).
That tells me that '96 Florida O was probably better than '20 Bama O despite what the weird 2020 numbers tell us.
...and of course we know which team had a better defense.
That sounds a bit too definitive. Let me walk it back some. I think it is almost impossible to compare 2020 numbers to other seasons because everything was just weird in 2020. Everybody put up weird numbers in 2020. Is it fair to judge Bama's 2020 defense when nobody played defense in 2020? If the offenses aren't really as good as the numbers imply, then we must conclude that the defenses aren't really as bad as the numbers imply.
Bama is, without a doubt, the best team in college football in 2020. Hard to compare them to our '96 team.
Alex.
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I agree
The minute they think they stop the run, Percy would slip out and take a slant to the house.
And our 08 D was like no defense that bammer faced all year. I honestly don't think they played a quality defense this year.
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Are you lost in the weeds? Do you need help finding your way out?
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Wright, Nelson, and Lawrence would all possibly do jail time in today's game.
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Ok. So, without a doubt in my mind, if the 08 team was around in today's environment, coached up at the same level to the same rules that were applied on Monday night, they still win.
Take 2020 Bama back to 08 and let them get coached up at the same level and to the same rules as in 08 ... they get clobbered again.
Its not even close. This year's Bama team couldn't hang with a lot of previous national championship teams.
Take 2020 Bama back to 08 and let them get coached up at the same level and to the same rules as in 08 ... they get clobbered again.
Its not even close. This year's Bama team couldn't hang with a lot of previous national championship teams.
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Ok, then just take out the OOC and then do the math.
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I'm trying to imagine any defense in the country in 2020 trying to stop the Danny Wuerffel fade pass AND keep Fred Taylor from running roughshod over them.
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The Athletic posed a similar question to a few of their beat writers ((Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Bama) and the responses were borderline embarrassing since they exposed blind bias by each of them.
The UF guy listed the 08 UF team third which was the only mention.
The other writers listed several Bama teams and the 2019 LSU team without ANY logic or justification. It was like watching a fake news network.
Is there any subject remaining in this country that people can discuss honestly anymore?
The UF guy listed the 08 UF team third which was the only mention.
The other writers listed several Bama teams and the 2019 LSU team without ANY logic or justification. It was like watching a fake news network.
Is there any subject remaining in this country that people can discuss honestly anymore?
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Lol, you mean like the responses in this thread?
More than likely, no.
