Reddit and GameStop

Detroitgator

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Agreed. And it likely wouldn't have escalated to sticking it to wall street, if wall street wasn't so ham-handed about how they reacted.
Burry being on wsb also flies directly in the face of the BS "this is guys with $500 to $2500 accounts doing this" narrative. No, again, those people were in the last 72 hours, not what wsb was a week ago. Son #1 did say they were thinking about closing it to everyone who wasn't a member 6 months ago.
 

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Burry being on wsb also flies directly in the face of the BS "this is guys with $500 to $2500 accounts doing this" narrative. No, again, those people were in the last 72 hours, not what wsb was a week ago. Son #1 did say they were thinking about closing it to everyone who wasn't a member 6 months ago.
Wouldn't blame them. I think I visited there a few times, but hadn't paid much attention. Not sure if I joined back then or not. :dunno:
 

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Michael Burry, the guy played by Christian Bale made 1,500% on GME during the Reddit run-up.

He then tagged the SEC in this tweet, which he subsequently deleted a short time later:

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Any idea EXACTLY when he posted this? Even rough date/time? And are you saying he cashed out at 1500%, or he's up 1500% and still in?
 

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Oops, meant to include this in my comment to you @Detroitgator.




It's a "$17 stock" because... you f***ing a-holes shorted it 140% of the total existing stocks.

That's what outrageous. They're literally trying to say its worth whatever they say it is, and working overtime to prohibit any other buyers from offering contradictory opinions with their own dollars.

Nothing in existence has tangible value. The entire principle of a market is that a thing is worth what a person will pay for it. Do I think it's preposterous people buy a Beanie baby with a mispelled tag for $100,000? I sure do, but because someone will pay 100k for it, that's what it's worth.

It doesn't matter why someone wants the stock. If they want it, the price goes higher. That's it. GameStop is worth whatever people will pay for it. End of story.

Maybe I want to buy 100 shares and print out my certificate of ownership and hang it on some wall in my garage with an altar to the almighty God of Videogames and derive catharsis and pleasure from my symbolic ownership of a small piece of His Divine Body.

Melvin's CEO bought the most expensive house in America. 100 million dollars. For a place he almost certainly barely ever sees.

Is that a completely idiotic thing to do? Is that bunch of drywall and plaster that he won't even habitate worth $100 million dollars?

I sure don't think so. He could have built a hospital or a school or a giant lake to store all his tears in, but he bought what he wanted, because he wanted it, because he had a bunch of paper that someone else agreed was worth his overpriced house.

What, am I not allowed, if I have the money, to buy a failing business and restore it, regardless of whether or not it will thrive? Its their money. There's no immutable truth to the value of a business. The entire marketplace floats on faith. Faith tomorrow will be better than today. Faith that a business will build cooler things tomorrow than they do today. No one has any clue for real. Certainly not these aholes with supercomputers and Ivy-lead quantheads.

Because if they did know better, they wouldn't have gotten f***ed with their pants down by a message board.

A chess grandmaster never loses a game to an idiot. It just doesn't happen, in a pure vaccuum. There's no factor of luck involved. The master is magnitudes better than the idiot and there's no moves the idiot can make that the master will be unable to see coming and unable to combat.

But Melvin did get crushed. By a guy with a laptop posting his thesis on WSB. So Melvin's not a grandmaster. They just make their own luck by owning the gameboard and pretending like its all because of how clever they are.

If a bunch of idiots with phones and a couple bucks can upend the entire system by exploiting a catastrophically stupid series of bets by billion dollar companies with potentially infinite losses, then maybe they don't have any clue what any company is really worth either.

Remember these are the same idiots who shorted Tesla for years. And the cars are still cool, the spaceships still go vroom, and the owner is the world's richest man.

So maybe, just maybe, these people are just as stupid as everyone else, but with a lot more money in one bank account to be stupid with.
 

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Any idea EXACTLY when he posted this? Even rough date/time? And are you saying he cashed out at 1500%, or he's up 1500% and still in?
This looks like 4:10pm (time zone?) on Tuesday.

Unclear as to his current position. He's saying he's neither long nor short, if I recall.

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Honestly, and I'm over generalizing, but NOTHING, not a SINGLE thing, has been done with GME that hasn't been happening since the inception of stock markets... nothing. The only difference this time is who did what to whom, and they don't like it.

No, I'm not suggesting that there's anything is wrong with how all of this has played out. Like you, I agree that it's only a big deal because the shoe is on the other foot. In some respects, it may turn out to be healthy for the markets as it will keep some of the short/activist plays in check and they'll be less inclined to dictate a stock rather than simply speculating on it's value. It didn't even take an Icahn type this go around. Just a bunch of individuals. Take GME, Reddit or any one particular play out of the equation. I have no issue with that. What I'm talking about, and what I find to be alarming is that Robinhood platform where average people with little knowledge--and less true risk tolerance--are being welcomed in to trade on margin in between their day jobs. That will not end well, especially with the swings we've seen the past 11 months.
 

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No, I'm not suggesting that there's anything is wrong with how all of this has played out. Like you, I agree that it's only a big deal because the shoe is on the other foot. In some respects, it may turn out to be healthy for the markets as it will keep some of the short/activist plays in check and they'll be less inclined to dictate a stock rather than simply speculating on it's value. It didn't even take an Icahn type this go around. Just a bunch of individuals. Take GME, Reddit or any one particular play out of the equation. I have no issue with that. What I'm talking about, and what I find to be alarming is that Robinhood platform where average people with little knowledge--and less true risk tolerance--are being welcomed in to trade on margin in between their day jobs. That will not end well, especially with the swings we've seen the past 11 months.
I'm okay with it not ending well. Play stupid games, etc. But predictably, we know who won't be left standing when the music stops.

The suits always have somebody willing to hand them a chair.
 

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Yes, but technology has allowed "undesirables" into the shop, and they don't like it.

Really no different than what social media has provided, and when it doesn't go their way, the average joe gets shut down.
 

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