Gator Basketball ***Official Game Thread*** Florida vs South Carolina

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Scottie just isn’t very good. Decent but not more of an athlete than a complete
basketball player . At times he’s passive and other times tries to force things . TM did some good things primarily in the first half . Second half was simply terrible
 

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Locke’s a massive liability out there when he’s not hitting 5+ 3s. Can’t rebound, pass or defend.
 

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As others have said....rotation was off tonight. Minutes distribution out of kilter.

4 players with 30+ minutes including 2 with 37.

Lewis and Jurugi barely played a quarter. 3 minutes for Glover.

Osifo 0 minutes while we wasted 8 minutes on Ruz.
Unless there is some issue we are not aware of this was strange.

More random thoughts:

We really don’t have anyone who plays strong with the ball. Most play fast and loose and contributes to turnovers.

We seem to have multiple times a game where we attempt very ill-advised passes.

I count at least 5 times a game where Locke hesitates on the 3 and gets run off the line. He has little to no game off the dribble; never takes an angle; insists on a runner/floater or picks up his dribble and has to reverse the ball back out.

Castleton and Payne often don’t fully execute the “pick” on the pick and roll. They dive too quick thus easily picked up by defenders.
 

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Tonight proved once again that White will always be a good, not great coach...we seem to play down to our opponent way too often under him compared to Billy...another inexcusable bad loss
 

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We got 7 points from the bench. Scottie with 1. smfh That's pathetic.
It's not good when we're down late and Samson gets inserted into the game. He really can't do much other than shoot, and he's suspect at best at this point in his career. He's a huge liability on D.
Where was Glover and Osifo?
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...and where was White? He doesn't communicate that the beginning of the game is important to tromp the other team, to not start off mishandling the ball, to get a solid lead, and protect it. White dozes, Gators doze. Backsliding is so preventable few teams routinely suffer from it.
 
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You guys are funny....... It was a bad game from an average team.

I've been expecting it to show up. MW is an average coach, he doesn't have the vision to see when the wheels are wobbling and had no ability to motivate by leadership when the wheels fall off. He is a front runner or loser, nothing in between. More Loser than anything!
 

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Decided to have some fun and do some research on all time Gator 3-point shooters.
This list is not all inclusive, but just the ones I could think of in the 20-30 minutes it took me to research it. Add on if you can think of more.

86-87 season*
Joe Lawrence - 50.4% (only one season, but wow!)
Moten - 44.7% (again only one season, same as Joe Lawrence - what a tandem!)
*the 3 point line was closer than it is now and it has progressed over time from 20' to the current 22'1.25" (the international distance).

Multiple seasons
Edit: Forgot one, Erik Murphy. He's pretty important as his % is higher than Humpty's
Murphy - 43.5%
Humpty - 43.1%
Weaks - 42.7%
Stolt - 42.0%
Cross - 40.9%
Locke - 40.6%
Peep - 40.2%
JW - 39.4%
Nelson - 39.8%
Dupay - 37.9%
MadMax - 37.5%
*Ronnie Williams played before the 3 point line went into effect (86) but he'd be in the mix I bet.
Extras (not so good)
M. Miller - 34.5%
Boyton - 34.8%
K. Allen - 33.6%
 
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Scottie just isn’t very good. Decent but not more of an athlete than a complete
basketball player . At times he’s passive and other times tries to force things . TM did some good things primarily in the first half . Second half was simply terrible

I might get laughed at or eye rolled for this comment but I wonder if being the UF poster boy for the social justice narrative has affected him mentally....he even made a comment after he got rid of the blonde hair that “it felt good to be myself again”...wonder what he meant by that...either way I would say he has declined this year
 

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We got 7 points from the bench. Scottie with 1. smfh That's pathetic.
It's not good when we're down late and Samson gets inserted into the game. He really can't do much other than shoot, and he's suspect at best at this point in his career. He's a huge liability on D.
Where was Glover and Osifo?
:gah:
Glover has been complete trash this year. The less he plays the better from what I've seen, but Osifo has been pretty good. Not sure why he didn't get in the game but pretty sure it wasn't because White forgot he was on the bench so probably a reason. And Scottie has been just terrible. It's like ever since KJ collapsed Lewis's game collapsed too. Even his defense sucks which is just bizarre.

Sometimes you just can't buy a basket and that's what happened to us in the last 10 minutes. And of course when our shot went to hell all of a sudden USC plays like an SEC stalwart. It really sucks that certain coaches and teams seem to own us under White and that's on the coach. This was a must win considering the level of the competition that follows, so of course we lose. To say this was a major major setback for this team, our season and of course for White himself is an understatement. I Don't know if he is snake-bit or he just sucks as a head coach, or most likely a little of both, but this was a really potentially season crushing bad loss.
 

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Whitey unprepared and out coached? I never saw that coming.

 

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Watched the replay late last night and White was schooled by Martin late in the 2nd half. The poor offensive execution down the stretch was all on White. How in the hell do you keep drafting the same play over and over again asking your guards to one v one with zero attempt to move the ball around. It was painful to watch.
 

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Too much giddy about getting into the T25 led to a loss of enthusiasm on the court. When you start seeing success is not the reason to take your foot off the pedal; it's a time to press it through the firewall. Missing layups, guards driving into a battle of giants under the basket for a layup, being too casual with the rock; dribbling between two defenders, and passing behind the back result from reading your own headlines and becoming a head case.

I don't know how many assists we had last night, but there were definitely wasted opportunities because of selfish plays. The team we saw at ut and west "by God" va, did not show up. The team we saw last night was suppose to be at full strength, but we played better during the time without Lewis and Castleton in the line-up. Castleton did better scoring because they didn't triple team him; instead they boxed him out at critical times and negated his rebounding. Our "D" stayed at home.

I suppose MW deserves a lot of criticism because he is the one paid to take it, but each players need to step up their game. There is a lot of talent on this team, yet, if they continue to go through the motions with lackluster interest and "0" passion, they are only a mediocre team. That is coaching; sometimes a coach needs to bench a player regardless of the player's abilities; to get him to perform at 110% all the time.
 

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Decided to have some fun and do some research on all time Gator 3-point shooters.
This list is not all inclusive, but just the ones I could think of in the 20-30 minutes it took me to research it. Add on if you can think of more.

86-87 season*
Joe Lawrence - 50.4% (only one season, but wow!)
Moten - 44.7% (again only one season, same as Joe Lawrence - what a tandem!)
*the 3 point line was closer than it is now and it has progressed over time from 20' to the current 22'1.25" (the international distance).

Multiple seasons
Edit: Forgot one, Erik Murphy. He's pretty important as his % is higher than Humpty's
Murphy - 43.5%
Humpty - 43.1%
Weaks - 42.7%
Stolt - 42.0%
Cross - 40.9%
Locke - 40.6%
Peep - 40.2%
JW - 39.4%
Nelson - 39.8%
Dupay - 37.9%
MadMax - 37.5%
*Ronnie Williams played before the 3 point line went into effect (86) but he'd be in the mix I bet.
Extras (not so good)
M. Miller - 34.5%
Boyton - 34.8%
K. Allen - 33.6%

Great research

One thing though, Ronnie Williams was a back to the basket big man that never shot or made a three pointer so I am not sure what you were looking at for this.
 

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I might get laughed at or eye rolled for this comment but I wonder if being the UF poster boy for the social justice narrative has affected him mentally....he even made a comment after he got rid of the blonde hair that “it felt good to be myself again”...wonder what he meant by that...either way I would say he has declined this year

I have thought about the same thing.
There’s certainly a lot of bad karma out there that seems to surround him. I will admit that I resent his kneeling for the anthem so I am probably contributing to his challenge

Maybe a young entitled athlete should stick to his game in the future.
 

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