Rumor: Mullen was on vacation on NSD

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You guys are funny. I remember saying Butters quit after Clowntown 2016 and he would never recover, never regain what respect if any he had from the team. He never did. After he quit on them, they quit on him.

Mullinz did the same. He basically ignored prepping for LSU allegedly to prepare gor Trailerbammer and then literally went on vacation instead practicing for the GD Cotton Bowl in his spectacular triple face plant move, then went backon vacation perhaps interviewing w the Jets resulting; n them hiring..... our QB coach. lol

You dont come back from this. Why would a team give their all for a quitter?
 

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And yet... you’ll still be on his side supporting him along the way.

Not really. I’ll give him credit for what he has done and still be critical of the situation. I think he’s light years better than the last two jackasses we hired and have zero faith that the next hire would be any better if Stricklin and Co are still running things.

I’ll also admit that I’m a little biased. My two kids had all but written off Gator football until the 2018 season. These guys had known nothing more than WM and JM garbage football, and miserable, tense games regardless of the opponent. There were times in ‘17 when they actually asked if they could just stay behind, throwing the football with friends, rather than going into the stadium. The last three years have been by far the best years since 2009. They actually want to go again, and my son was livid after Lsu because he expects to win now, whereas he generally just assumed a loss before.

So yes, I’m admittedly hesitant to go back to the “experimental” phase, especially, as I said, knowing who will be making the call. So I guess I’m supportive, though mainly just hoping it does improve so we aren’t in that boat yet again.
 

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Mullen sucks and is officially on limited time. He may be here a while longer, but we all know it's over bc he's lazy, apathetic, full of excuses an isn't interested in doing what the job or the paycheck requires.
Exactly right. He is on the way out but will milk as much money from the program he can before he goes. And he will be careful as far as recruiting goes going forward since he knows he damn near lost his salary and buyout from the show cause. The UAA effed up by not firing him for cause and fighting Sexton in court and negotiating down the buyout. Now we will be stuck firing him for being a shltty coach so will be stuck with the remainder of his buyout.
 

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Not really. I’ll give him credit for what he has done and still be critical of the situation. I think he’s light years better than the last two jackasses we hired and have zero faith that the next hire would be any better if Stricklin and Co are still running things.

I’ll also admit that I’m a little biased. My two kids had all but written off Gator football until the 2018 season. These guys had known nothing more than WM and JM garbage football, and miserable, tense games regardless of the opponent. There were times in ‘17 when they actually asked if they could just stay behind, throwing the football with friends, rather than going into the stadium. The last three years have been by far the best years since 2009. They actually want to go again, and my son was livid after Lsu because he expects to win now, whereas he generally just assumed a loss before.

So yes, I’m admittedly hesitant to go back to the “experimental” phase, especially, as I said, knowing who will be making the call. So I guess I’m supportive, though mainly just hoping it does improve so we aren’t in that boat yet again.

You were guilty of hanging onto WM and JM till the bitter end. If you'd like to revisit your knob slobing posts, we can do so. Better that you just admit it and move one. Not sure we are ready to forgive you. I'll yield my time to @Durty South Swamp
 

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Listen, if we were to fire Mullen, who would we get? Not saying this as in who's better, but who would UF pay to come here? So I say we ride the Mullen thing out. Let fat Todd drag himself and Mullen into D3 territory and let Strickland/Foley become collateral damage.

Sure our football program will look like crap, but not much worse than it would anyway. Let Mullen have the opportunity to drag the whole AD's office with him and maybe we can solve the real problem here.
 

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Listen, if we were to fire Mullen, who would we get? Not saying this as in who's better, but who would UF pay to come here? So I say we ride the Mullen thing out. Let fat Todd drag himself and Mullen into D3 territory and let Strickland/Foley become collateral damage.

Sure our football program will look like crap, but not much worse than it would anyway. Let Mullen have the opportunity to drag the whole AD's office with him and maybe we can solve the real problem here.
I've heard that John Gruden is basically a done deal if we just ask him. We have boosters lined up to pay him what he wants when he wants. I've also heard that Dabo is becoming unhappy where he is, so those would be our top two choices.

Failing those two for some inexplicable reason, then Derek Dooley is also available.
 

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It is what it is. I can't rail constantly like some here do, thinking it will change something. Mullen probably is better than the last two so it will be even harder to get rid of him. And he's probably aware of that. Recruiting is not top notch, that speaks for itself. Let's hope '21 has winning, or at least entertaining football. Go Gators.
 

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Exactly right. He is on the way out but will milk as much money from the program he can before he goes. And he will be careful as far as recruiting goes going forward since he knows he damn near lost his salary and buyout from the show cause. The UAA effed up by not firing him for cause and fighting Sexton in court and negotiating down the buyout. Now we will be stuck firing him for being a shltty coach so will be stuck with the remainder of his buyout.

The problem isn't fight Sexton in court, it's the next Sexton client. One of the problems with the current environment is there are only really 2 agencies for all the coaching candidates, and you effectively cut off 50% if you truly piss off one of the firms.
 

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how many did we win this year tho?

Point taken, but do you think had he not put his foot in his mouth in post pressers and not F'd up in Washington state Strickyboy would even care? The only thing getting him in trouble is his mouth.
 

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You guys are funny. I remember saying Butters quit after Clowntown 2016 and he would never recover, never regain what respect if any he had from the team. He never did. After he quit on them, they quit on him.

Mullinz did the same. He basically ignored prepping for LSU allegedly to prepare gor Trailerbammer and then literally went on vacation instead practicing for the GD Cotton Bowl in his spectacular triple face plant move, then went backon vacation perhaps interviewing w the Jets resulting; n them hiring..... our QB coach. lol

You dont come back from this. Why would a team give their all for a quitter?

Dude. You really need to take some breaths and work on anger management. You can't even type straight.
 

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Point taken, but do you think had he not put his foot in his mouth in post pressers and not F'd up in Washington state Strickyboy would even care? The only thing getting him in trouble is his mouth.

The problem is if we see the unprofessionalism while in front of the camera, what is going on behind the scenes.... because if he is on his "best" behavior in public... what is his behavior in the building. UF hasn't been one to hold back on extensions, usually giving too early (ie Meyer, Muschamp, McElwain) even getting one this March would have been later than those guys, why the wait?
 

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The problem is if we see the unprofessionalism while in front of the camera, what is going on behind the scenes.... because if he is on his "best" behavior in public... what is his behavior in the building. UF hasn't been one to hold back on extensions, usually giving too early (ie Meyer, Muschamp, McElwain) even getting one this March would have been later than those guys, why the wait?

That isn't a problem, its speculation and then math based off the speculation. Can they give him an extension without getting approval from the ncaa due to the show cause? Im not disagreeing with you, just putting other perspectives on your opinion.
 

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That isn't a problem, its speculation and then math based off the speculation. Can they give him an extension without getting approval from the ncaa due to the show cause? Im not disagreeing with you, just putting other perspectives on your opinion.

Neteng, I agree the show cause is really big issue... which still goes back to his lack of professionalism in the organization. The NCAA compliance is a huge issue in that building and has been for decades, then he puts himself in that position without any real explanation.
 

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While I believe we are on the same side of the aisle with regards to the big picture, I disagree that he is on limited time. I don't think he is going anywhere unless he leaves on his own. He is good enough to keep us in the 9-11 win per season marker and that I think is good enough to keep him employed as the UF head coach. I think stricklin will just let it go on and on and on all the while considering it a great success as we go to the peach bowls every year. The only thing I think that could get him fired is if he continues to have weird post game press conferences and the such that makes Stricklin have to go stand in front of that fuching pos university president.

Unless he has a remarkable season in the next two years, I think he's done. He basically gotten a free pass due to covid this year. 2021 & 2022 he will have the spot light on him - and more fans in the stands. If he gets blown out and/or loses ugly (like the LSU loss) a few times the noise will get loud and he'll be in the same shoes Mark Richt found himself in in 2014. He'll get to replace Grantham in 22, which will buy him the 22 season. But if he gets blown out and/or has the LSU 2020 type loss there's going to be a lot of grumbling. I think he's already hearing it, which is why the NFL talk started. I agree w/ Law, but not quite the extent, I think he's already got one foot out the door and is half-ass'ing it.
 

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Neteng, I agree the show cause is really big issue... which still goes back to his lack of professionalism in the organization. The NCAA compliance is a huge issue in that building and has been for decades, then he puts himself in that position without any real explanation.

Unless he has a remarkable season in the next two years, I think he's done. He basically gotten a free pass due to covid this year. 2021 & 2022 he will have the spot light on him - and more fans in the stands. If he gets blown out and/or loses ugly (like the LSU loss) a few times the noise will get loud and he'll be in the same shoes Mark Richt found himself in in 2014. He'll get to replace Grantham in 22, which will buy him the 22 season. But if he gets blown out and/or has the LSU 2020 type loss there's going to be a lot of grumbling. I think he's already hearing it, which is why the NFL talk started. I agree w/ Law, but not quite the extent, I think he's already got one foot out the door and is half-ass'ing it.

I agree that all of this is/are very likely scenarios. The way this season ended is just bizarre and the silence from stricky is a huge tell. I also agree with donkey but refuse to say the same crap over and over and over and over again. But there are a hundred diff ways this can play out. Look at how long Gus survived at Auburn and it took UGA forever to finally pull the plug on Richt. And I can't help to think of stricky as a baseball guy who is too lazy to really do much of anything about football unless he absolutely has to do something. Factor in that Mullen got absolutely no bites on his nfl baited hook, maybe reality hit in pretty hard. Also, maybe after that show cause is up Mullen sayz F it and leaves town too. Still think there is 100 different ways this can play out. Either way, I think Mullen has to believe his next move is swing for the fences next season.
 

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I agree that all of this is/are very likely scenarios. The way this season ended is just bizarre and the silence from stricky is a huge tell. I also agree with donkey but refuse to say the same crap over and over and over and over again. But there are a hundred diff ways this can play out. Look at how long Gus survived at Auburn and it took UGA forever to finally pull the plug on Richt. And I can't help to think of stricky as a baseball guy who is too lazy to really do much of anything about football unless he absolutely has to do something. Factor in that Mullen got absolutely no bites on his nfl baited hook, maybe reality hit in pretty hard. Also, maybe after that show cause is up Mullen sayz F it and leaves town too. Still think there is 100 different ways this can play out. Either way, I think Mullen has to believe his next move is swing for the fences next season.

What do you mean "swing for the fences" - as in finding another job or trying to win big at UF?

I don't think Mullen will ever leave unless he has the 'next big thing' lined up. Dude is making over $6 million/year. You don't just walk away from that, especially in your 40's. Same w/ Grantham - he's making $1.8+million, he's not leaving on his own.

As far as Gus & Richt lasting as long as they did; I think that's exactly why Mullen won't last as long as either. First off, both Gus & Richt won the SEC. Gus played for the national championship and beat Alabama 3 out 7 (until his last season, finishing 3 of 8). If Mullen wins an SEC title, he's locked in here another 5+ years. But as long as Saban is at Alabama and UGA, A&M, and LSU are recruiting the way they are we aren't beating them for an SEC title. I think the 'noise' will be "he's our Mark Richt" and they will cut ties after year 6 or so.

Mullen can’t keep finishing 5th in recruiting in the SEC and expect to win anything. UF fans like making fun of UGA (and rightly so), but the current trends don’t point to UF winning either. Mullen and the UF Administration have to address the issue of recruiting or we are going to be an 8 to 10 win team as long as he's here.
 

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You were guilty of hanging onto WM and JM till the bitter end. If you'd like to revisit your knob slobing posts, we can do so. Better that you just admit it and move one. Not sure we are ready to forgive you. I'll yield my time to @Durty South Swamp

You must’ve stopped reading at some point then, because my hanging on went well past the bitter end. Especially with Muschamp. At one point, I lobbied for a “thanks for the memories, Will” mural on 34th. Fortunately for me, when placed side by side, the letters WM sort of resemble a cartoon mountain range, so I was able to modify the tattoo with little out of pocket expense.
 

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I am convinced that the university administration is perfectly happy with the state of the football program and has no motivation for and therefore no intention of making any changes.

In there minds the majority of the funding is generated simply by being a somewhat viable member of the SEC and any incremental effort is counterproductive to the ultimate goal which is to stay in the Top Ten Public University club while striving to be the preferred university of the Chinese Communist Party. Laugh if you will but take a look at the current admissions breakdown before you do.

Nearly every athletics decision made in the last 3-4 years wreaks of convenience and compromise versus any desire to excel.

What am I saying?
Unless Dorky Dan further embarrasses the university, they are perfectly happy with being better than average.

I just wonder how long it will take everyone to figure this out.
 

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