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Now, my questions:

1. What time should kid go to bed? Is it different for Elem vs Middle vs HS?

2. What time did YOU go to bed when you were a kid?

Elementary/middle school we started prayers and family talks at 8. Bed by 8:30 but they could read as long as they wanted, just stay in your room.

HS - I have no idea what time they go to bed because we are already asleep

I don’t remember having a bedtime as a kid. Consistency and routine is the key for little kids. They function so much better when they know what to expect.
 

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If you got a paddling at school did you get one when came home and was it worse? Yes and yes for me.

Only paddled once in elem, explained at home what happened and they figured it sufficed. Wasn’t anything major to begin with, and the paddle was the goto for the principal, even if it was overkill.
 

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I got the hand most times at home. Worst I got was the belt, typically trying to argue my case as my little sister had yet again made something up that I supposedly did and they believed her, always.
 

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If you got a paddling at school did you get one when came home and was it worse? Yes and yes for me.
I got a funny story about that. Guess I traumatized my K-5 teacher a little too much because she scheduled a parent-teacher conference that concluded with my dad giving her permission to paddle me, and I was going to get double the licks when I got home. I remember at the end of one school day a scrum of about 6 kids started grab-assing in the middle of the room, so I stepped up in a chair and jumped right in the middle of it. That teacher singled me out and gave me two quick licks. She could not wait to walk me to my dad’s truck in the carpool lane to inform him I got two licks that day. I think my dad was more pissed she called his bluff, because he took it out on me at home! Needless to say I was a model child the rest of the year.
Corporal punishment works.
 

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Great day, where’d your wife grow up? Hanoi?

To kind of provide some context, her mom(my MIL) was from a village in the mountains of DR that to this day has no electricity. Her great grandmother, who we think was 101 when she died a few years back(nothing documented), had twelve children from one man, and she wasn't even the wife. Some village warlord basically ran everything and apparently tried to rival Genghis Kahn in number of offspring. One of the first times she came over to our house, she attempted to kill our miniature Schnauzer with her walker because he ran up barking. Basically in her mind it was him or her and she saw no reason to keep him alive. Anyway that was the grandmother that my mother-in-law grew up around. So, we forget sometimes because of the modern world we live in today that in some places it's wildly different, and it takes at least a few generations for that to dissipate. Believe it or not 5 min away from Mar-a-lago, just over a bridge, where my wife grew up, some of that mentality still exists today. Even though it's inner city, it's not uncommon to hear chickens, and almost like clock work on weekend mornings you'll hear a pig squealing somewhere as it's chased around a backyard, knowing its afternoon fate. It's just a different world and culture.
 

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The oddest punishment I got was when I was 13, my dad was pissed about me being an ass at school, so he told me to dig a hole. I spent the next 6 hours digging the hole. He came outside, "why is your dirt on my lawn, fill it in"... so I proceeded to fill it in. Two years later I'm watching "Cool Hand Luke" with him, and found were he found the punishment.
 

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@soflagator Things have definitely changed in this world! My wife’s grandmother was born in Germany and came to the States just prior to WWI, settling in Connecticut. She lived to be just a couple of weeks shy of 103 and was German to the core. Right after we married and about 2 years before she passed, we were sitting in the den watching a PBS documentary about the Holocaust when Grandma shouted “turn that trash off! I won’t stand those lies about the German people anymore!” She was dead serious. I was shocked.
 

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@soflagator Things have definitely changed in this world! My wife’s grandmother was born in Germany and came to the States just prior to WWI, settling in Connecticut. She lived to be just a couple of weeks shy of 103 and was German to the core. Right after we married and about 2 years before she passed, we were sitting in the den watching a PBS documentary about the Holocaust when Grandma shouted “turn that trash off! I won’t stand those lies about the German people anymore!” She was dead serious. I was shocked.

That's great. While you were almost taken back by statements like that, you have to think after 40+ years of hearing about it, she was probably done, and rightly so.

I'm fascinated by that generation because I don't know that any other period in human history saw as much extreme change as they did. But I also love to see how different priorities and views on life in general are based on background and era. It's why so many of our parents, and almost certainly grandparents, were so insistent on us eating everything on our plates as children. It may have been subconscious, but a part of them either remembered, or were at least raised around firsthand stories of not knowing exactly where your next meal would come from.
 

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That's great. While you were almost taken back by statements like that, you have to think after 40+ years of hearing about it, she was probably done, and rightly so.

I'm fascinated by that generation because I don't know that any other period in human history saw as much extreme change as they did. But I also love to see how different priorities and views on life in general are based on background and era. It's why so many of our parents, and almost certainly grandparents, were so insistent on us eating everything on our plates as children. It may have been subconscious, but a part of them either remembered, or were at least raised around firsthand stories of not knowing exactly where your next meal would come from.
The biggest hardship I recall the wife’s grandmother and my grandparents sharing were the depression years and as you mention, meals weren’t always a certainty. It is remarkable how they were able to keep plowing through those hard times. Consequently, we are all very fortunate with what we have today in comparison.

To your point about the wife’s grandmother being fed up with hearing about Germany’s part in the atrocities of WWII, the only thing I can compare it to is the constant woke scoldings from the past year or so. But I’d add that the comparisons might be apples and oranges. The interesting thing is the historic similarities between the German National Socialists and the new American version we read and hear about and are exposed to these days.
 

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My grandmother died when I was fairly young. My only real memory of her is calmly rocking in her rocking chair. If you walked by too close.... blammo.... you got smacked with a belt that she had hidden on her lap.

She'd always say that we deserved it for something she didnt know about yet.

You learned not to get within striking distance. But sometimes a toy or something got too close. You'd wait for her to doze off. But she was like a cobra. God I miss that woman.

You’re so fuchsing weird. :lol:
 

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[QUOTE="cover2, post: 1238787, member: 68"
  1. We used corporal punishment. I had “the belt” and the kids knew where it hung. The rule was 3 licks max for disobedience, disrespect, and/or doing anything that could potentially harm or kill them or someone else. Never spank in anger. Explain concisely why they are being punished. Be consistent. The spanking graph for both of our kids declined dramatically as they got older and by the time they were teenagers, spanking was mostly a thing of the past. I didn’t believe in using my hand after they were school age. However, the son decided when he was 18 and had just graduated from HS that he could talk loud to his mom. When I verbally corrected him, he decided to challenge me. We were driving to Sunday School and I turned the car around and drove back to the house. He didn’t think I was serious, but I told him that if he thought that was the way a man behaved I needed to let him know that wasn’t acceptable. So we squared off. Mom was crying, Jr. was telling me he’d put my old ass in the hospital. He got his shot at the championship. I still have the trophy. Not proud of that moment, but it was necessary. He hasn’t raised his voice since
:)[/QUOTE]

I’ll never forget an old friend of mine told me he had a knock down drag out with his 18 year old step-son, who was much bigger than him. He ended up wrestling him into a position where he couldn’t strike out at him and held him there until he quit. In his words, you can’t lose that fight because if you do, one of you is moving out at the end of it.

My 16 year old stepped into me the other day after he made it clear he wasn’t interested in what I told him to do. I immediately stepped even closer to him and told him he better be ready to get knocked on his ass if he made any further moves. His face immediately went from anger to shock, and then to remorse. He backed down, and I told him if that happened again he would not get off that easy, and that he better never try and intimidate his Mom that way. I put it down to teens pushing the old envelope to see what they could get away with. Hoping that lesson has been learned and hopefully will never happen again. The good news is his younger, yet bigger, brother witnessed the whole thing and his eyes were as wide as saucers so hopefully got a twofer out of it!
 

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[QUOTE="cover2, post: 1238787, member: 68"
  1. We used corporal punishment. I had “the belt” and the kids knew where it hung. The rule was 3 licks max for disobedience, disrespect, and/or doing anything that could potentially harm or kill them or someone else. Never spank in anger. Explain concisely why they are being punished. Be consistent. The spanking graph for both of our kids declined dramatically as they got older and by the time they were teenagers, spanking was mostly a thing of the past. I didn’t believe in using my hand after they were school age. However, the son decided when he was 18 and had just graduated from HS that he could talk loud to his mom. When I verbally corrected him, he decided to challenge me. We were driving to Sunday School and I turned the car around and drove back to the house. He didn’t think I was serious, but I told him that if he thought that was the way a man behaved I needed to let him know that wasn’t acceptable. So we squared off. Mom was crying, Jr. was telling me he’d put my old ass in the hospital. He got his shot at the championship. I still have the trophy. Not proud of that moment, but it was necessary. He hasn’t raised his voice since
:)

I’ll never forget an old friend of mine told me he had a knock down drag out with his 18 year old step-son, who was much bigger than him. He ended up wrestling him into a position where he couldn’t strike out at him and held him there until he quit. In his words, you can’t lose that fight because if you do, one of you is moving out at the end of it.

My 16 year old stepped into me the other day after he made it clear he wasn’t interested in what I told him to do. I immediately stepped even closer to him and told him he better be ready to get knocked on his ass if he made any further moves. His face immediately went from anger to shock, and then to remorse. He backed down, and I told him if that happened again he would not get off that easy, and that he better never try and intimidate his Mom that way. I put it down to teens pushing the old envelope to see what they could get away with. Hoping that lesson has been learned and hopefully will never happen again. The good news is his younger, yet bigger, brother witnessed the whole thing and his eyes were as wide as saucers so hopefully got a twofer out of it![/QUOTE]

I guess at some point the young bull is going to try the old bull to see who runs the herd. You’re right about the loser having to pack up and leave. I believe it happens in most households. I had my own moment with my granddaddy who raised me, though it was a little different. When I was sixteen and trying to figure things out, granddad, who had a pretty strong drinking problem, came in late one week night and he and my grandmama got into it. My bed was in the basement and I could hear them loudly arguing. Then a loud crash. He had ripped the phone off of the wall and threw it at her. She started hollering for me and I came running in my skivvies.

I was pretty well-framed at the time from football and working out and when I got in between them I guess it came across as pretty aggressive. I remember my granddaddy taking a surprised step back and then telling me “You think you’re big and bad with your muscles, don’t you? Well, I’ve got something for you! “ And he turned and headed to his bedroom. I quickly realized he was going after his .38 that stayed in the drawer in his bedside table. My grandmama told me to get gone to my mother’s house and she’d call me when things settled. So I hauled tail!

After a couple of days, my grandmama called and said to come on home. When I saw my granddaddy, he never made mention of the incident and though he continued to drink, he and my grandmama never had another argument. So, I guess some good came from it. I had a couple of takeaways...the new bull and the old bull will eventually tangle and though the new bull may have the edge in strength, the old bull has experience and he also knows he’s fighting for the herd, so anything goes! This was another not-so-proud moment because my granddaddy stepped in from the time my daddy left when I was four years old and loved me and raised me, so I felt quite a bit of shame for having bowed up at him. However, I also learned that there will be times and places in your life that you have to put your feelings aside and be willing to do what has to be done and in the case with my own son, I think he understands that now.
 
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1. Should kids get an allowance?

2. Does TP go up and over the roll or under

3. Should butter stay on the counter for days?

4. Is it ok to spank children with a belt or switch?

5. Should dogs be allowed on the couch or bed?

1. Allowance should be used to teach kids about budgeting.

2. Only a knuckle dragging communist puts toilet paper over

3. OK, yes

4. Yes, but no more than 3 licks. I was often beaten with a razor strop until my grandfather started using a bull whip. And I was the good one.

5. No, unless they are small and don't shed.
 

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3 is about the line
 

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Driving through Payne’s Prairie always felt like I was leaving the “Deep South” and going into a different South.
 

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Who’s gonna tell them boys in Bartow, Lakeland, Frostproof, and Arcadia that they’re a bunch of damyankees?


Alex.
 

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. "Should dogs be allowed on the couch or bed?"
No way! I was partners with a couple who owned a dopey looking little shiatsu that
they used to let have the run the place. I would chase him the couch, shoo him away
from the middle of the floor, etc. One morning I went into my office and the mutt had taken
a dump behind my desk. I grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, dragged him into the office
and smashed his face into the stinky pile. I guess that cured him because he never did it again.
 

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