GNFP Film Breakdown- 2021 Florida Gators vs. USF

Swamp Donkey · Sep 15, 2021

Bushmaster said:
The back screen bubble can be run while running power, zone, qb power, etc. It is a continuous read but does start at the snap. If the db is off 8-10, that was automatic throw for us.

I was thinking more like 3 receivers on 2 defenders etc. Isn't Grantham the only dude who plays 8-14 yards deep?

The other scheme I saw use run was slick and caused a EJ pick. The db starts bailing pe snap giving a cover 3 look, but the safety rolls under into the flat in a reverse cover 2. The wr sees the db bail, stops for the hitch, and safety runs underneath and picks ej..

Yes, I saw that. Do you think that is really EJ's fault? EJ probably threw what Mullen told him to with his reads. Or just predictability of Mullin always throwing short always?

ThreatMatrix · Sep 15, 2021

Bushmaster said:
....The other scheme I saw use run was slick and caused a EJ pick. The db starts bailing pe snap giving a cover 3 look, but the safety rolls under into the flat in a reverse cover 2. The wr sees the db bail, stops for the hitch, and safety runs underneath and picks ej....

I'm not convinced that they didn't bait him into that. It was so well executed on their part. If I'm an opposing defense I'm gonna take a close look at opportunities to jump routs against EJ.

Bushmaster · Sep 15, 2021

Swamp Donkey said:
I was thinking more like 3 receivers on 2 defenders etc. Isn't Grantham the only dude who plays 8-14 yards deep?

Yes, I saw that. Do you think that is really EJ's fault? EJ probably threw what Mullen told him to with his reads. Or just predictability of Mullin always throwing short always?

Most likely called during the game. When DB is bailing on cover 3, the wr stops at 6 to 8 for the hitch. Let's show cover 3 and rollover with the inside db covering the flat. We threw it and they picked it.

With 2 covering 3 there is a lb splitting the difference between the tackle and the inside receiver to read n pass. On pass, he drops to cover the hook curl hitch route and then the flat. The other two dbs are either a man scheme or covrng this or whatever depending on what you are running

Gatormac2112 · Sep 15, 2021

NavetG8r said:
I thought I scanned through the thread titles to make sure I wasn't duplicating. Guess I missed yours, sorry about that.

No problem! I was just having fun :swampqueen:

Swamp Donkey · Sep 15, 2021

ThreatMatrix said:
I'm not convinced that they didn't bait him into that. It was so well executed on their part. If I'm an opposing defense I'm gonna take a close look at opportunities to jump routs against EJ.

They are going to jump routes against Mullen's QBs period. Why wouldnt you when he rarely has the QB throw more than 4 yards?

Ancient Reptile · Sep 15, 2021

Swamp Donkey said:
They are going to jump routes against Mullen's QBs period. Why wouldnt you when he rarely has the QB throw more than 4 yards?

Donk, I thought you had a point with this jape until I started watching this year. AR threw 3 times, the shortest about 37 yards. And EJ threw intermediate and longer as well. You should give this a rest pending further developments.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 15, 2021

Ancient Reptile said:
Donk, I thought you had a point with this jape until I started watching this year. AR threw 3 times, the shortest about 37 yards. And EJ threw intermediate and longer as well. You should give this a rest pending further developments.

Didnt you just hear Mullinz saying he isn't running the plays correctly. He is throwing to the dudes who are supposed to just be decoy routes for the 4 yard crossing pattern or the RB swing pass.

ThreatMatrix · Sep 15, 2021

Ancient Reptile said:
Donk, I thought you had a point with this jape until I started watching this year. AR threw 3 times, the shortest about 37 yards. And EJ threw intermediate and longer as well. You should give this a rest pending further developments.

Don't waste your breath. Donk calls every offense that doesn't throw it 30 yards every play "sideways".

Swamp Donkey · Sep 15, 2021

ThreatMatrix said:
Don't waste your breath. Donk calls every offense that doesn't throw it 30 yards every play "sideways".

I don't ever think 30 yards makes sense. But I would rarely throw in front of the LBs. SOS threw like 80-90% in the mid range. Those 12-17 yard routes. It isn't much harder than throwing it 30 yards sideways and 4 yards downfield, isn't nearly as likely to get pick sixed and you don't end up wiht the Justin Shorters of the work making 4 catches for 6 yards.

ThreatMatrix · Sep 16, 2021

Swamp Donkey said:
I don't ever think 30 yards makes sense. But I would rarely through in front of the LBs. SOS threw like 80-90% in the mid range. Those 12-17 yard routes. It isn't much harder than throwing it 30 yards sideways and 4 yards downfield, isn't nearly as likely to get pick sixed and you don't end up wiht the Justin Shorters of the work making 4 catches for 6 yards.

Ok. If every pass isn't 12-17 yards it's a sideways offense. Got it.

B52G8rAC · Sep 16, 2021

Swamp Donkey said:
I hope B52 doesn't see this.

Why? I am in favor of winning.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 16, 2021

ThreatMatrix said:
Ok. If every pass isn't 12-17 yards it's a sideways offense. Got it.

If it is -2 to 4 yards deep, it is a sideways offense. Really anything thrown in front of the LBs is sideways... unless we are taking Grantham dropping the CBs and LBs to 14 yards deep.

neteng · Sep 16, 2021

B52G8rAC said:
Why? I am in favor of winning.

Im in favor of Kate Beckinsale dropping trou and sitting on my face. Aint gonna happen though, but still has a higher percentage of happening than a win on Saturday for the good guys.

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Swamp Donkey · Sep 16, 2021

i finally got around to watching the offensive oart of this. EJ did some nice things that I missed, and DM responded quicker than I thought to them going cover 0 early.

you can't see things like some of the levels routes on the TV screen. In the past these were often just lazy 9 routes clearing for the underneath pass. There was definitely more Dan Mullen 2.0 than Notre Dameball Dan Mullen than was initially apparent.

Of course part of the results were us just being so much better talent-wise than USF at every position. Obviously the opposite will be the case this week.

You're getting paid like the third best coach in college football. obviously you're not even the third best recruiter in the SEC East. today is the week to earn your money. Talent isnt an excuse, you recruited all that talent.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 17, 2021

I'm just getting around to watching the defensive video. take a look at 40:34 and tell me if you notice something he didn't mention.

Bushmaster · Sep 17, 2021

A properly designed pass play should have 4 levels (an air raid staple) where the defense has to defend every inch of the field where the QB can throw. Level 1 is the flat, 2 is short, 3 is medium 8-15, 4 is deep at 20+.

The problem with not running the intermediate routes is the LBs and DBs that drop into coverage can hang out at 5-10 yards from the line of scrimmage which covers 2 levels. On Cover 2 and Cover 3, the deep part of the field should be covered. That leave 4-5 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS covering Level 1 and 2 routes (swings, hitches, and drags.)

Alabama feasts on the intermediate routes because the LBs and the DBs are playing closer to the LOS for run support while a receiver or TE gets between them and the deep DBs who are being run off leaving the intermediate routes basically uncovered.

rogdochar · Sep 17, 2021

We've launched no pass plays where AR just throws a fastball on a rope to hit a curled-out WR chest high. The ball impact alone will provide YACs. :cool:

Swamp Donkey · Sep 17, 2021

Bushmaster said:
A properly designed pass play should have 4 levels (an air raid staple) where the defense has to defend every inch of the field where the QB can throw. Level 1 is the flat, 2 is short, 3 is medium 8-15, 4 is deep at 20+.

The problem with not running the intermediate routes is the LBs and DBs that drop into coverage can hang out at 5-10 yards from the line of scrimmage which covers 2 levels. On Cover 2 and Cover 3, the deep part of the field should be covered. That leave 4-5 defenders within 10 yards of the LOS covering Level 1 and 2 routes (swings, hitches, and drags.)

Alabama feasts on the intermediate routes because the LBs and the DBs are playing closer to the LOS for run support while a receiver or TE gets between them and the deep DBs who are being run off leaving the intermediate routes basically uncovered.

BOOM. This!

Sec14Gator · Sep 17, 2021

Swamp Donkey said:
I'm just getting around to watching the defensive video. take a look at 40:34 and tell me if you notice something he didn't mention.

Hahaha. We blew the spread and got blown off the ball with misalignment while USF only play 10 on 11. I may need to reconsider my super rational, film break down based, statistical modeling in the game prediction thread that had UF winning.

Also, on the prior play, note big Watson chasing the play down from the NT spot. Good sign.

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