Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Kentucky

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Worst coaching I’ve seen since the Georgia Southern loss. Dan is just not cut out for this level of football. I said from day 1 that he’s a good coach, and I hope he grows into becoming a great coach. Well, it’s obvious I was 1000000% wrong. He’s a mediocre OC, and an absolutely pathetic HC. There’s nothing he can do to gloss over this fact. He’s lazy on the recruiting trail, thinks his crayon-ridden high school playbook is special, refuses to address his staff’s obvious weaknesses, and stubbornly tries to prove everyone wrong even when all the results prove otherwise. He needs to go. Simple as that.
I’ll give him he’s grown a little but he’s still considered a dwarf.
 

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*I’m a homer. I admit it. But by George give Pierce some more carries! He’s usually our best back in terms of per carry avg and runs strong. Tonight was a night he needed about twice as many touches. Could have helped make a difference.
Especially that last series. My wife and son were concerned about me bitching about this cluster.

I don’t understand what Mullen was thinking?

My other comment is where has sports journalism gone? They were Mullens PR rep all night again.
 

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UK Coach Jerry Claiborne has been gone for 21 years now. He was alive and well and coaching the Wildcats in 1986, the last time they beat the Gators at home. 35 years. The streak, as all streaks do, had to end sometime. Why tonight? I think that if you were to poll our fans, you’d get several answers: penalties, couldn’t run it when we needed to, still can’t stretch the field with the passing game, couldn’t stop their run when we needed to, OL had their toughest test so far and had trouble with UK’s front, loud crowd made it difficult to hear, Stoops influenced the officials, Grantham, Mullen…

It really doesn’t have to be said, but losing sucks. Particularly to a team you have pretty much owned for 30 years. It also sucks that your goal to win the SEC East and make it into the Championship game is over, barring a win in Jax over the Dawgs and them losing another conference game. Could happen. Has happened before. Hard to have to keep relying on good fortune in that scenario. It’s still a long season. So, we’re playing with an eye toward that while working to get better, playing the team on the schedule each week, for pride and several other cliches. But it’s absolutely got to be worth playing for.

*UK came into this game 4-0 with a stout defense (thus far), yielding only 87.5 rushing yds/gm and 172.5 passing yds/gm. Tonight, we rushed for 171, almost twice what they allow, and passed for 211. Their most important defensive stat was that they only allowed us into the end zone once. And that was good enough.

*15 penalties for 115 yds was way too much to overcome. There were some questionable calls, one and perhaps two of the holdings and at least one of the false starts were killers. I’m not a Stoops fan by any means, but he was obviously successful in his lobby after an interference no-call. He had a TV timeout to chew that Zebra @ss after the change of possession and made the most of it. I begrudgingly applaude that aspect of his coaching. Wouldn’t mind seeing it our way sometime ;)

*We probably played good enough defensively to have won tonight (had our offense been able to score more than one TD). Kentucky has averaged 204.5 rushing this season and 238.5 passing. We held them to 137 rushing and 87 passing. “Third and Grantham” was not the culprit tonight, as we allowed only 1 conversion in 9 attempts and stuffed their only 4th down attempt. Unfortunately, it was after that turnover on downs, a sure-fire momentum swinger, that we turned it right back over to them on a short field. The ensuing TD wound up being more than we could overcome.

*Richardson returned to not a lot of fanfare. Not a lot of snaps, so-so results (25 yds rushing on 5 carries, 1/1 passing for 8 yds). Could he have made a difference? Maybe, but UK’s defense was much better than what he’d seen this year and it was clear his part in the play was cameo only. Hammy still an issue :dunno: His upside is certainly still there, but how much we see through the course of the season remains to be seen.

*Two pretty good fronts on the field tonight. Their #4 (Paschal) was a grown man. Gouriage was not much of a match and our OL had their hands full. Our DL for the most part held their own against the UK OL that always seems large and talented. The one offensive score that really killed us came right after we gave it right back to them after a 4th down stop. Conversely, they kept us out of the end zone for the final three quarters.

*Having a FG attempt blocked is bad enough, but having it returned for a score was ridiculous. Championship teams don’t allow that to happen. Spurrier can vouch for that!

*The announcers talked incessantly about the crowd noise and how it affected our line calls and cadence. We play at BHG. We wrote the book on loud. That should have had little to no effect on us.

*I won’t harp on the secondary this evening. They’re still not great, but they were serviceable and made some plays and seemed to tackle better. They delivered a couple of hard hits, too. I’m not sure the LBs played as consistently as we needed them to. One play that stood out was on UK’s last TD when Moon mysteriously false-keyed inside to allow Rodriguez to walk in untouched.

*Emory is a great kid and a fine athlete. His strength is his running abilityp accelerating through the smallest of creases and making tacklers miss. He throws the short routes pretty well and there’s some evidence that he’s improving his “eye game” if not reading the route progressions. Mullen has a lot of confidence in him. But as several on this site have forecast, he will likely have trouble against teams with strong Ds that force us to have to pass. The inability to stretch the secondary compresses the field, already small when progressions are most often limited. He was a little better tonight, but not good enough to turn the tide. In fairness, had Copeland kept his balance on that last drive, it might be a moot point or at least deferred for another week.

*I’m a homer. I admit it. But by George give Pierce some more carries! He’s usually our best back in terms of per carry avg and runs strong. Tonight was a night he needed about twice as many touches. Could have helped make a difference.

*Their three scores were TDs. Our three scores were one TD and two FGs. All the stats I spewed previously are pretty much meaningless by comparison :) Football is really simpler than we make it.

The plan to win was not executed. Simply put, we were not quite good enough to pull it off. The players played hard, but weren’t quite consistent enough in all phases, though there were some good plays, good moments. The same can be said of the coaches. That part starts at the top. Nobody will remember that we out-gained them in yardage, particularly on the ground, nor that we stopped eight series on third down. They will remember that our winning streak in Kentucky is over and our detractors, grinning and briskly rubbing their hands together, will cheerfully proclaim “They ain’t back!” and maybe “They ain’t coming back!” They’ve always said things like that about us. We’ve responded. I hope Dan’s listening. There are expectations waiting to be fulfilled. Go Gators!

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Per announcer Orvlosky (sp?), Moon's inside rush on the Rodriguez TD was a called defensive play. Dexter was supposed to loop behind Moon to cover an outside run. Replay showed Dexter temporarily entangled by interior traffic only to arrive late and barely able to get a hand on Rodriguez' jersey. I thought it was a bad call on Grantham's part at the goalline.
 

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Best write-up for our worst game. Our O & D hit UK with all the torpor Dan could inspire. Can you imagine $7.6 million for a torpor inspirer.?
EJ does not have the quick mind nor vision to read the needed array of receiver patterns - he wastes them. EJ's release is too sluggish to execute most throws - thereby opposing DBs keep our WRs covered too tightly for a molasses throw - so it isn't thrown ... or EJ pushes the ball out of anybody's reach. That has to make crisp pattern running fog up in receivers' minds. DM does not see it nor coach it out.

Coaching & producing a good FB team is a 2-way street and Mullen stays face-down on the yellow centerline. Roadkill.
 

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Well done as usual. I agreed with everything but this came off as a little hokey:

I hope Dan’s listening. There are expectations waiting to be fulfilled. Go Gators!

You know way more about football than almost all of us, but you can't really believe that after a decade and a half as a HC, Mullen is going to somehow change into an actual leader that makes tough decisions for the good of the team. This is who he is.
You’re right. I guess I opted for that route as opposed to a profanity-laced tirade that many had probably already unleashed. At this point I’m just looking for some kind of uptick for the remainder of the season. I’ll probably shoot a 68 this morning when I golf with my son, too :rolleyes:
Can’t wait for the losers to be like “if we fire ****tersfull who are we going to get?” We always use fear to justify keeping losers.
Yep. Feels like modern politics. Mullen won’t aggressively recruit. Hell, I’m not sure he recruits at all. That’s enough to know he’s as good as he’s going to get.
Per announcer Orvlosky (sp?), Moon's inside rush on the Rodriguez TD was a called defensive play. Dexter was supposed to loop behind Moon to cover an outside run. Replay showed Dexter temporarily entangled by interior traffic only to arrive late and barely able to get a hand on Rodriguez' jersey. I thought it was a bad call on Grantham's part at the goalline.
I missed that commentary. At one point in my coaching, we used a stunt as you described. We called it “Whip.” The DE would align outside eye and at the snap, he would rip across the OL’s face and control the gap; the LB came off the DE’s hip to the edge and maintained outside leverage while reading the play. If it was run he forced from outside in. There could be no hesitation. It looked like Moon was maybe a little uncertain of the call or his responsibility. If that was indeed what was called, we picked a bad time to poorly execute it. But we were shocked at having to come right back on the field after a great stop. We weren’t strong enough emotionally to overcome that.
 

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Well C2, another great write up, but it feels to me like you have thrown in the towel. Not that you should have unleashed a profanity laced tirade, but I infer that even you know that there is absolutely no hope. Forget about the previous 3 years, this is year 4 and 5 games in when did it ever look like there was hope? We never improve, we play down/up to our opponents. One close loss is what everyone hangs their hats on and in the other 4 games, never did we ever look like a team that has any chance to beat a real team, regardless of result. The gist is that nothing ever changes, and I almost sense from you writing that you have finally thrown in the towel. You mentioned you hoped things would move forward with still a lot to play for. But I know you are aware that HOPE is not a strategy.
 

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Motivation drives winning performances. Using AR15 as an example, Mullen is an anti-motivator. Such HCs are so unbelievable they're hard to spot. Gradually some ground floor players start suspecting it but can do nothing but let the absorbed confusion demotivate them.

I'd liked to have tapped into Spurrier's brainwaves as he watched DM's coaching debacle stretch on & on & on, series after series.
At this point, 7.6 million is enough to hire the tandem of Steve Spurrier + James Bates to put some "life" into Gator football. Spurrier could out scheme most of the SEC from a Hoveround. Go Gators, go get a worthy HC/CEO.
 

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My other comment is where has sports journalism gone? They were Mullens PR rep all night again.

I just watched SEC Football Final. They gushed over UK being 5 and 0 and how they should be ranked now. The only mention of UF's failings, the 15 penalties. No discussion at all of basically taking a knew at the end of the first half.
 

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There was a report that Dan was asked if he were out coached. He said "No", citing the yardage gained.
If this report is true, it is utterly damning. It announces, beyond peradventure of a doubt, that Dan is an offensive coordinator and not a Head Coach. If he doesn't accept overall responsibility for the team, no one will.
 

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Mistakes and poor game management lost this game. With 3 time outs and over a minute left in the 1st half we killed the clock knowing we only had a 3 point lead and UK gets the ball first to start the 2nd half. And penalties. Too many penalties. Many of them false starts. How do you go on the road ill prepared for the crowd noise? Have we never traveled before?:headslap:
 

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The most frustrating part is that we all know that the Gators were playing that game with one hand tied behind their back by keeping Richardson on the bench. Then when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter, Mullen stubbornly refused to untie the second hand and sacrificed the season. Spurrier NEVER would have stuck with a flailing quarterback that long.
 

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I just watched SEC Football Final. They gushed over UK being 5 and 0 and how they should be ranked now. The only mention of UF's failings, the 15 penalties. No discussion at all of basically taking a knew at the end of the first half.
Too embarrassed from their gushing over Mullen during the game?
 

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In any organization, the staff, 'players', subordinate members eventually assume the personality of the leader. Did the players want to score to end the 1st half? Yeah, sure, I think so. Did they come away knowing their HC didn't really care at all about putting up some points to end the half? Yes to that too. Getting into position to score is apparently a subjective thing...maybe yes, maybe no sometimes--assignments too. Lazy route running, slow off the ball, hold that block for...1 second or so, they don't seem to care, why should I? The other team's fans are too noisy, let's go home!
 

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Well C2, another great write up, but it feels to me like you have thrown in the towel. Not that you should have unleashed a profanity laced tirade, but I infer that even you know that there is absolutely no hope. Forget about the previous 3 years, this is year 4 and 5 games in when did it ever look like there was hope? We never improve, we play down/up to our opponents. One close loss is what everyone hangs their hats on and in the other 4 games, never did we ever look like a team that has any chance to beat a real team, regardless of result. The gist is that nothing ever changes, and I almost sense from you writing that you have finally thrown in the towel. You mentioned you hoped things would move forward with still a lot to play for. But I know you are aware that HOPE is not a strategy.
Halo effect? 2016 & 17 were pretty bad.

18 & 19 were ugly.
 

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Motivation drives winning performances. Using AR15 as an example, Mullen is an anti-motivator. Such HCs are so unbelievable they're hard to spot. Gradually some ground floor players start suspecting it but can do nothing but let the absorbed confusion demotivate them.

I'd liked to have tapped into Spurrier's brainwaves as he watched DM's coaching debacle stretch on & on & on, series after series.
At this point, 7.6 million is enough to hire the tandem of Steve Spurrier + James Bates to put some "life" into Gator football. Spurrier could out scheme most of the SEC from a Hoveround. Go Gators, go get a worthy HC/CEO.
He doesn’t seem to motivate nor understand it’s importance. Hopefully we will move on very soon.
 

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The handwriting has always been on the wall since year 2 of Mullen's tenure here, but as time rolls on it's clear that his special brand of incompetence at critical times will never end. Every year we lose to at least one team we should have whipped and Danny boy was right on time for this loss, failing to prepare the team for a fight up in Lexington. You can bet it hasn't sunk through his thick skull that he just sh!tcanned this season
 

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Good job Cover.
Lets see for the Gators to win the East they would have to win out ,Ga. would have to lose another conf. game and KY. of all fuc*in teams will have to lose three conference games.
This sucks!
 

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