Who should Mullen's replacement be?
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- Jun 13, 2014
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This is good point. More often than not, these guys that win alot of games at mid majors don't translate into solid p5 coaches. I'll give some examples of some group 5 guys that flopped.
Tom Herman
Charlie strong
Jim McElwain
Willy Taggart(lol jk)
Scott Frost
Jeff Brohm
Chad Morris
Mike Norvell
Just to name a few but it clearly doesn't translate, atleast very often. Maybe Gus Malzahn coaching at Arkansas St for a year if you wanna call his stint at as a HC at Auburn a successful one.
But if you look at UGA, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma. All hired top level assistants. Those 4 and bama are the elites right now. There are no Sabans on the market that I know of. My point is that there's not one true contender right now that hired their coach from a mid major or took a mediocre power5 guys and became elite.
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That’s a good point. I never actually thought about that. That trend has definitely changed. I still don’t love the idea of getting a first time HC, but the minors-to-majors experiments have been disastrous of late.
The one thing that uga, OhSt and Ou did was they had a fairly seamless plan. All three involved a guy retiring and turning to an in-house coordinator or firing a successful head coach, knowing exactly who they wanted and were definitively going to land before they made the move. In many respects, I feel like that was what we did in 2004. If we could pull something like that off, I’m good. Doing the USC, ut, fsu approach, especially with this band of bozos we have running it, no thanks. We’ll end up with those type of results.
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I've put forth the proposal that all coaches should get paid on a per-win basis moving forward.
Not only will it increase competitiveness amongst coaches, but it will leave more money leftover for paying players.
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I don't love the Zook example beings that he was a shcit coordinator. But yeah , I'm sure I could dig up more mid major flops too. That's why I'd have zero interest in Chadwell or fickell.
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The 2004 reference wasn’t to Zook. It was to our making a move on Zook, knowing exactly who we wanted(Meyer) and the confidence that we’d ultimately land him. I don’t like the idea of canning a head coach and then beginning a search. You can see these eventual firings from a mile away and agents have back channels. The two announcements shouldn’t be more than a few days apart.
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It’s Lane Kiffin, Lincoln Riley, Mario Christobal, maybe Mike Gundy (not sure he has the recruiting prowess we crave) and kick the tires with Ole Bobby boy.
There’s 4 on there I’d be thrilled with. And one that might have some serious questions… None regarding his mullet…
Tell me I’m wrong and I’ll think about shutting the fuch up. I likely won’t, though.
There’s 4 on there I’d be thrilled with. And one that might have some serious questions… None regarding his mullet…
Tell me I’m wrong and I’ll think about shutting the fuch up. I likely won’t, though.
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Riley and Smart are not elite. And Smart will never get there as long as he keeps disrespecting the importance of the QB position. That defense looks nasty right now, until they run into an elite QB that puts them in a hole they are hopeless to recover from.
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Congrats, you got 1 right (Lincoln Riley), but he also hasn’t won shyt either and always finds a way to lose a game each year he shouldn’t, although I’d take him over Mullen. Cristobal sucks, Lane’s had very little success outside of Pee Wee league FAU, Gundy is a perennial 8-4 guy in a weak azz conference & Bobby (Petrino I assume) hasn’t had a successful season in 10 years and now coaches at Missouri State in the MVFC Conference, whatever the fcvk that is…so no thanks on Petrino either.
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Smart is elite enough to beat the piss out of your boy Mullett in every way possible.
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Cristobal could be a very good coach. If nothing else he’d kill it in recruiting so we’d be loaded. I don’t care about his FIU record, but agree with tgator he’s not some sure thing. I’d take him though.
Riley isn’t leaving Ou for UF. And Lane and Gundy are both losers. Lane because he’s a petulant child who can’t get out of his own way, and Mike because he stayed at OkSt, completely content being the little brother, knowing he’d never win it all. We talked about having a coach that truly hates losing. No way someone would stay in that spot accepting 3-4 guaranteed losses a year for a decade plus if he fit that description. He’s a better passing-offense equivalent to Mullen.
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I have to admit. My man crush for Gundy has faded. For that very reason you just stated. He a loser ,content with 3-4 losses a year. That and he's a prick that freaking leverages us for a raise every time we fire somebody.
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Many years ago I would have been interested in Gundy but there's another factor we havent mentioned. I don't want an old complacent multimillionaire coach. They all seem to get comfortable losing and cashing giant checks. It has to be someone with the fire to be a champion.
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That was one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen a coach do, especially when performance on the field was going so poorly. What a buffoon.
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There was never a trend.
The truth is there are 128 coaches and like 124 of them arent elite or borderline elite.
The fact is we are likely fail hiring either an OC or a HC.
That beimg said there are certain ingredients that we should be looking for, explosive offense kind of guy, NOT A BALL CONTROL GUY (whether option or other ground pounders), a great recruiter or at least someone is isnt a total social failure (in other words the people Fooley and Stricklin are drawn to), some whom demands precision amd exactness in everything including staff.
They are all disasters if you pick the wrong guy.
Part of the problem is too much money chasing too little talent. Ever the Cowbells, Rutgers and Col States of the world are flushing 4-6+ million on loser coaches, though the Pirate is hilarious. Back in the day only the top 5-10 were paying big money.
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@Swamp Donkey, you got there early for a good seat on the Mullen Suckswagon, but it didn't take Sherlock Holmes to deduce that a mediocre coach was likely to produce mediocre results. Don't pretend it made a difference who UF hired. You were going to make a career out of b*tching about whoever it was, regardless. As you will about the next guy.
That said, I saw something new when reading this thread. You actually threw out the name of a prospective head coach you supposedly like!
So, now that you have suggested Joe Brady, go ahead and tell us why he sucks and is a horrible hire. C'mon, everyone knows that's what you'll be saying as early as Day Two of his UF tenure, if not (very) late on the evening of Day One. What's Brady's nickname going to be? Marsha, Jan or Cindy?
That said, I saw something new when reading this thread. You actually threw out the name of a prospective head coach you supposedly like!
So, now that you have suggested Joe Brady, go ahead and tell us why he sucks and is a horrible hire. C'mon, everyone knows that's what you'll be saying as early as Day Two of his UF tenure, if not (very) late on the evening of Day One. What's Brady's nickname going to be? Marsha, Jan or Cindy?
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