Brian Johnson is one of our best options

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I keep hearing people talking about how excited they were about losing most games that mattered last year because we were at least throwing the ball around. (Well, throwing it around 54% of the time and just KILLING our drives with options the other 46% of the time.) Admittedly, I liked it to. And if we hadn't immediately 180'ed, the receiver and QB talent in the southeast would have loved it to.... see how quickly Kiffy is getting looks from top talent at fuchsing Ole Miss.

Remember during the FSU game in 2019 that Mullinz "bragged" to ABC (it was Jordan Rodgers IIRC) that one of his assistants, later identified as Brian Johnson, asked him why we KEEP running stupid fuchsing options that don't work. Then Johnson got promoted to OC, the offense changed (really the play selection changed, we have all those levels plays and 4 verts in the playbook, but Mullinz typical only runs them once a half).

THEN Dwagtham was getting crushed on defense as teams tried to keep up with Johnson and Trash, so Dorky Dan switched back to increasingly ball control option offense and back to sideways passing, and the three game triple faceplant ensued.

People are worried about "losing" ground gained, whatever that means. The easiest solution is to flush the OC /HC that sucks and give the good OC some time. He will be cheap, he was one of our best recruiters, and he already knows the players, playbook and how to expand it into something that actually scores points, though obviously we don't have a passer as talented as Trash on the roster now. (I was actually quite impressed with young Kitna throwing the ball around though. I thought he was walkon quality, but I don't believe so now.)

There were numerous insider reports that Mullinz had lost the lockerroom last spring and summer, but Brian Johnson kept it together and got the team back on the field including those that wanted to sit out (like Mullin mostly did).

There are no homerun hires available no matter what we were willing to pay, and continuing down the Mullinz path will just lead to a worse and worse roster for the next guy. Yup he is very risky. So is every OC and every 21-17 (McElwain) or 17-21 (Mullin) little league coach out there. Yes, he will probably fail, as will every other option on our lists.

Let's face it, we get points for hiring a minority. Probably recruiting points too.

Now is the time.
 
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Jalen Hurts has been playing well for the Eagles this year so far with Johnson as QB coach. He may work his way up to NFL OC soon if he doesn't get a college head coach job.
 

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Brian Johnson puts on a helluva show, too.
Maybe we could get Angus for the half-time shows.

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Jalen Hurts has been playing well for the Eagles this year so far with Johnson as QB coach. He may work his way up to NFL OC soon if he doesn't get a college head coach job.

Define well... @soflagator , what would be your thoughts on this?

I couldn't get here fast enough, but was about to say, this seems like a subtle Douglas-style shot at me. :lol:

I would not consider Hurts' play to be going "well" personally. Having said that, I never felt anyone would have Hurts playing well, so I'm also not putting that on the shoulder of Johnson. There's a reason why Burrow has looked good and improved in Cincy, while Driskel remained the same during his time under a mostly the same offensive staff.

All that said, if we're going that route and rolling the dice, sure why not. I'm somewhat cautious on the minority part just because right now every move we may make, if things didn't go well, would be scrutinized. But that's a societal issue and not his fault. I also think he's more likely than landing a guy like Brady, simply due to his having history here and the timing of things considering this is all probably a year out and JB will be unavailable by then.
 

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I couldn't get here fast enough, but was about to say, this seems like a subtle Douglas-style shot at me. :lol:

I would not consider Hurts' play to be going "well" personally. Having said that, I never felt anyone would have Hurts playing well, so I'm also not putting that on the shoulder of Johnson. There's a reason why Burrow has looked good and improved in Cincy, while Driskel remained the same during his time under a mostly the same offensive staff.

All that said, if we're going that route and rolling the dice, sure why not. I'm somewhat cautious on the minority part just because right now every move we may make, if things didn't go well, would be scrutinized. But that's a societal issue and not his fault. I also think he's more likely than landing a guy like Brady, simply due to his having history here and the timing of things considering this is all probably a year out and JB will be unavailable by then.

Surprisingly it wasn't a shot.... I was a fan of our offensive change last year...but have only seen one Eagles game start to finish this year..... But we won't talk about that one. Wanted your honest opinion.
 

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Surprisingly it wasn't a shot.... I was a fan of our offensive change last year...but have only seen one Eagles game start to finish this year..... But we won't talk about that one. Wanted your honest opinion.
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Surprisingly it wasn't a shot.... I was a fan of our offensive change last year...but have only seen one Eagles game start to finish this year..... But we won't talk about that one. Wanted your honest opinion.

Yeah my wording was off. I meant Midwest's post seemed like a shot. I didn't think he was serious. I think the stats are skewed because of some garbage time. But I also think when you run the ball 6 times in a game, and 11 times in a game, you're putting way too much on the QB. Neither Hurts or Johnson are making those calls.

But I'll add this to my opinion. If you're going to make a move, it would need to be fast. I feel like the longer a coach stays in the NFL, the more they're likely to be drawn back to it. Lsu may already be too late given Brady's two stops in the league.
 

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Replacing Mullen without overhauling our entire football operations will be worthless. Numbers I saw in 2020 showed that Georgia spent roughly 3.6M to our roughly 1.3M . Alabama was number 2 nationally with UT third. We were 14 in the Country with 6 other SEC programs ahead of us. If you look at Georgia's current coaching, and support staff the coaches are the roughly the same at 11 but their support staff is more than double ours. Also I counted at least 7 staff with recruiting in their titles while we have maybe 1 or 2.
Plus their President and AD have been quoted that their primary goal is to win a football championship. We don't have the same commitment, and until we do no top tier coach is coming here unless they are looking for a retirement package when they get fired. Johnson was a great recruiter and while Mullen may be the closer, does anyone here think we have enough dynamic recruiters on staff? We get what we pay for and our current 14th ranked class in 22 matches up pretty well with our spending rank. Until we get Stricklin and Fuchs to step up and allocate the money required to be a top tier program like Bama or UGA we are just "pissing into the wind" if we think we are going to compete for championships. Football pays the bills and keeps the lights on. Until we add the resources needed to compete with the big boys we will be lucky just to beat Kentucky.

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I tried telling you ****ers we should just hire Brian Johnson when the jets were trying to "steal "Dan away.
 
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It’s not the dumbest idea you’ve ever had.
That bar is set pretty low.

Everyone's so excited about Brady but Johnson did close to the same thing here one year later with less talent.

All hires have risk but I'd love to see an incentive-laden contract in a situation where you might actually be able to get away with one... $4 mil base, $1 mil for every win >10, $2 mil for SEC championship, $5 mil for national championship. Time to stop rewarding lazy recruiting and comfortable coaches.
 

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Replacing Mullen without overhauling our entire football operations will be worthless. Numbers I saw in 2020 showed that Georgia spent roughly 3.6M to our roughly 1.3M . Alabama was number 2 nationally with UT third. We were 14 in the Country with 6 other SEC programs ahead of us. If you look at Georgia's current coaching, and support staff the coaches are the roughly the same at 11 but their support staff is more than double ours. Also I counted at least 7 staff with recruiting in their titles while we have maybe 1 or 2.
Plus their President and AD have been quoted that their primary goal is to win a football championship. We don't have the same commitment, and until we do no top tier coach is coming here unless they are looking for a retirement package when they get fired. Johnson was a great recruiter and while Mullen may be the closer, does anyone here think we have enough dynamic recruiters on staff? We get what we pay for and our current 14th ranked class in 22 matches up pretty well with our spending rank. Until we get Stricklin and Fuchs to step up and allocate the money required to be a top tier program like Bama or UGA we are just "pissing into the wind" if we think we are going to compete for championships. Football pays the bills and keeps the lights on. Until we add the resources needed to compete with the big boys we will be lucky just to beat Kentucky.

An Analysis Of College Football Recruiting Costs

When we have had changes in Football funding it's been started from the Head coach... Pell forced the Association to change how they raise funds and how they used those funds. Spurrier changed the way funding was used and some upgrades to the building. Meyer forced the instadium upgrades to more modern S&C set up. Butters forced the indoor practice facility to be a full football field in size. The fact that Mullen hasn't been pressing for improvements tells a lot.
 

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I keep hearing people talking about how excited they were about losing most games that mattered last year because we were at least throwing the ball around. (Well, throwing it around 54% of the time and just KILLING our drives with options the other 46% of the time.) Admittedly, I liked it to. And if we hadn't immediately 180'ed, the receiver and QB talent in the southeast would have loved it to.... see how quickly Kiffy is getting looks from top talent at fuchsing Ole Miss.

Remember during the FSU game in 2019 that Mullinz "bragged" to ABC (it was Jordan Rodgers IIRC) that one of his assistants, later identified as Brian Johnson, asked him why we KEEP running stupid fuchsing options that don't work. Then Johnson got promoted to OC, the offense changed (really the play selection changed, we have all those levels plays and 4 verts in the playbook, but Mullinz typical only runs them once a half).

THEN Dwagtham was getting crushed on defense as teams tried to keep up with Johnson and Trash, so Dorky Dan switched back to increasingly ball control option offense and back to sideways passing, and the three game triple faceplant ensued.

People are worried about "losing" ground gained, whatever that means. The easiest solution is to flush the OC /HC that sucks and give the good OC some time. He will be cheap, he was one of our best recruiters, and he already knows the players, playbook and how to expand it into something that actually scores points, though obviously we don't have a passer as talented as Trash on the roster now. (I was actually quite impressed with young Kitna throwing the ball around though. I thought he was walkon quality, but I don't believe so now.)

There were numerous insider reports that Mullinz had lost the lockerroom last spring and summer, but Brian Johnson kept it together and got the team back on the field including those that wanted to sit out (like Mullin mostly did).

There are no homerun hires available no matter what we were willing to pay, and continuing down the Mullinz path will just lead to a worse and worse roster for the next guy. Yup he is very risky. So is every OC and every 21-17 (McElwain) or 17-21 (Mullin) little league coach out there. Yes, he will probably fail, as will every other option on our lists.

Let's face it, we get points for hiring a minority. Probably recruiting points too.

Now is the time.
Sounds like a great call to me. Anything heard about his relationship with AR?
 

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Sounds like a great call to me. Anything heard about his relationship with AR?

I’m sure it’s great. Wouldn’t shock me if, aside from just the lure of staying home, it was Johnson who helped reel him back in when Mullen became obsessed with the ill-fit, current 4th string QB in athens.

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