Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

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Youre out of your freaking mind if you the academics is affecting our recruiting.

Have you listened to Kadarius? Or half of our players? Shtt be lame.
I didn't mean to imply it was affecting recruiting; I believe Dr. Fuchs is do his best to interpose himself in the recruiting process to make the UAA more accountable to him. That process is making recruiting more difficult.
 

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Youre out of your freaking mind if you the academics is affecting our recruiting.

Have you listened to Kadarius? Or half of our players? Shtt be lame.


Gotta agree with this. The difference between UF and let's say bama is UF has to take chances on kids with questionable character because every coach since Meyer has had recruiting issues. We can't afford to cherry pick like we did under SOS and Meyer. You think UF's football players are smarter than bama's or uga's, fuch no just listen to the player interviews. Hell wasn't it last year we laughed because someone posted the football honor roll (I believe that's what it's called). There were only like 2 non walk-ons that made it and I believe both of their majors were African American studies. :lol:

Hate to single a player out but donkey using Toney is a perfect example. He was from Alabama if I remember correctly and anyone with eyes could tell he was special athlete. If Saban wanted him no doubt he would have got him but for some reason he didn't and I'm sure it wasn't because his athletic ability.
 

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Gotta agree with this. The difference between UF and let's say bama is UF has to take chances on kids with questionable character because every coach since Meyer has had recruiting issues. .
Questionable character, injuries and questionable grades.

Surely people have noted we keep signing people who cant read or qualify.
 

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Gotta agree with this. The difference between UF and let's say bama is UF has to take chances on kids with questionable character because every coach since Meyer has had recruiting issues. We can't afford to cherry pick like we did under SOS and Meyer. You think UF's football players are smarter than bama's or uga's, fuch no just listen to the player interviews. Hell wasn't it last year we laughed because someone posted the football honor roll (I believe that's what it's called). There were only like 2 non walk-ons that made it and I believe both of their majors were African American studies. :lol:

Hate to single a player out but donkey using Toney is a perfect example. He was from Alabama if I remember correctly and anyone with eyes could tell he was special athlete. If Saban wanted him no doubt he would have got him but for some reason he didn't and I'm sure it wasn't because his athletic ability.
Was the good Dr. Fuchs President when Toney was recruited? I can't remember.
 

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I didn't mean to imply it was affecting recruiting; I believe Dr. Fuchs is do his best to interpose himself in the recruiting process to make the UAA more accountable to him. That process is making recruiting more difficult.
We are signing the most questionable classes in the SEC ( now that Cowbell has better recruiting).
 

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Got to disagree with you there. If we hire a competent guy that can coach AND recruit, we will be right back with the big boys as SaltGator mentioned. Meyer had $hitty dorms, no indoor practice facility, no stand alone football facility, or any other bull$****. Muschamp recruited pretty well but couldn't figure out what the hell to do on Offense to save his life. Shark humper was average and Ego maniac track record is average to below average. Can this dip$hit, get the right guy in here and get the football program rolling again. Don't waste AR's next couple of years (IF he even stays) with this loser.

A lot has changed elsewhere since Meyer. Meyer had “$hitty dorms”, but so did most schools at that time. He had no indoor practice facility, but many schools have built them since 2007-2008. A lot of other school have added a bunch of bull$hit so while I don’t fully disagree with the premise, and am not a Dan apologist, I do have to say it’s not exactly an apples/apples comparison.

The world changed and Foley said we should stay the same and not be in an arms race. Many kids care more about the amenities. Hell, players celebrated the locker room upgrades with one saying “we ain’t in the po house no mo” in the background of a vid.

Do I think the amenities changes Dan’s recruiting? Yes. By how much? Probably not too much. I just think it plays a factor more than I’d want to believe it does.
 

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Stricklin, biden his time, has said all this money lost in HC buyouts cost us zero.
 

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@ltraz I agree that he was a top assistant and was going to get a shot somewhere. The issue is the vision that you mentioned. His size, ground’em pound’em approach was largely contrary to what had always made UF successful which is speed and athleticism, traits found everywhere in our state. It would be the equivalent of someone wanting to focus strictly on speed and a high flying passing game at a place like Wisconsin. Theoretically, anything is possible. But it doesn’t really fit and certainly wouldn’t be easily or quickly implemented. Between that and his desire
to open his regime with orange jerseys in the first game should’ve told JF everything he needed to know. The guy longed for the 80s days where we averaged 21 points a game in SEC play and never won anything. Anyone that wanted to shift away, almost 180 degrees, from what Spurrier and Meyer had built should’ve been shown the door immediately. I don’t know how any AD could sit and hear someone with no HC experience tell you how he’s going to largely dismantle the last 20 years of success because he “knows a better way” and still hire him. That leads me to believe Foley didn’t really even listen and the decision was made a year in advance without any real consideration for what we were getting. That’s why I say it was a terrible hire.
 

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@ltraz I agree that he was a top assistant and was going to get a shot somewhere. The issue is the vision that you mentioned. His size, ground’em pound’em approach was largely contrary to what had always made UF successful which is speed and athleticism, traits found everywhere in our state..
Frankly, I suspect he said the right things. in one of his earliest interviews he made some comments about being aggressive keeping the pressure on constantly and being multiple on offense. he was no doubt coach to say this because that was absolutely the exact opposite of what he did.

I kind of understand falling for that bull****. the agents make a lot of money selling their clients because they're good at it and obviously coaching their clients what to say.

I guess in a way I can understand him interviewing well and saying the right things, lying about his philosophies. frankly if my job were to run 150 million dollar business I think I would know the subject matter though and if I didn't know the subject matter I would have a committee of experts who did. Chump should have been a known commodity by then.

With the defensive coordinator you don't really know what their offensive philosophy is, at least those that haven't already been head coaches elsewhere.

I really did try to swallow my disdain for a Dwag, and didn't really fall off the bus until the penis started literally screaming at the reporters saying Gators don't understand how to win football games for criticizing his neanderthal offensive views in 2012.

Still even if he had been much more aggressive on offense, a defensive coordinator head coach is always at the mercy of his OC. It's really freaking hard to find good offensive coordinators. We haven't had one in 15 years and it's arguable we haven't had one since 2001, A guy should consistently put a top 20 scoring offense on the field with top 10 talent. That's not a very tall task given the talent advantage. Mullen averages 50-70.

Anyway fuchs lying Will Duncechump and fuchs all the wags
 

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@GatorTruth133, you do have a point. Urban got the weight room renovated and expanded while he was here. Saban started the arms race for facilities and I'm sure Urban would have been putting pressure on the Administration to keep up. Who knows, if he stayed, he might have wound up leaving like Jimbo did FSU.

However, no matter how many new shiny toys we have, we need a Salesman and a Visionary with people skills to get the recruits.
 

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@GatorTruth133, you do have a point. Urban got the weight room renovated and expanded while he was here. .
it wasn't nearly enough. if you remember one of the things CUM said when he left in addition to his health and family was the "state of college football today." Dooley clarified that that means what they're doing in Alabama. Urban also said "our program is broken."

What did CUM do? he went to a program that would give him an unlimited budget so he could compete.

He wasn't going to fight a battle with one hand tied behind his back. I don't blame him.
 

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it wasn't nearly enough. if you remember one of the things CUM said when he left in addition to his health and family was the "state of college football today." Dooley clarified that that means what they're doing in Alabama. Urban also said "our program is broken."

Well said
 

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The fanbase was pretty split about about wm. He was the DC of 5-7 Texas. Our offense sucked ass in 2010. And in 2009 it had taken a big step back. In 2011 we needed an offensive guy. It didn't make any sense to me. I believe the news broke on a Saturday night then Sunday morning a couple of us were talking about how underwhelming that hire was at church. It didn't make any sense to me at the time just like it doesn't now.
 
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If anything, it showed why we should have fired him last December, during his bowl game prep week vacation.

Is that even legal? I mean, how do you fire a guy who’s out of the country only God knows where? I thought there was some DOL rule that you had to personally hand the fired employee his termination papers & that’s hard to do when he’s hiding somewhere in the Caribbean.
 

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Is that even legal? I mean, how do you fire a guy who’s out of the country only God knows where? I thought there was some DOL rule that you had to personally hand the fired employee his termination papers & that’s hard to do when he’s hiding somewhere in the Caribbean.
you can get constructive service by just flying a plane over the Caribbean with a sign that says Dan you're fired!
 
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