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Head Coaching Candidates Thread; Brian Kelly goes to LSU
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Jaguar45
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That checks out.
- Sep 4, 2014
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That’s so cute.
- Jun 9, 2014
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I dont know. They claimed he was fired for fake death threats but we all know he was fired for complaining about the slumlords and losing too many games... mostly complaining about the slumlords because they've certainly overlooked losing before.
I hope we're right on this. I don't know how much I believe the he turned down the other job. if you don't want the job you don't interview. everyone who doesn't get selected claims they pulled their name out of the that.
that being said there is significant smoke that he's demanding a modern staff. I agree that this is the best part of his potential employment at UF. I'm not super optimistic about his offense translating into championships any more than Mullinz did. But if we get the staff and the mindset built out at least there's something positive for his tenure.
On this front you could say that Butters was actually sort of a positive for the university than either Chimp and certainly better than Mullen. Butters shined the light on the slumlords. Some of us knew but most did not.
I can't really believe I'm having the slightest positive thought about that yellow toothed lazy slob.
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Because in retrospect compared to what we’ve watched since he left, Butters doesn’t look quite as bad. Watch an old video of him giving an interview, particularly right after a game. All the old feelings will come back; I promise.
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No, it was not the same. A casual observer might assume that but Mullen adapts for the specific QB. He is very good like that!
He is an excellent game day and preparation coach.
He is just not a good recruiter.
As a coach for over 30 years I can tell who is good on game day and who is not.
Mullen just did not care about recruiting that much.
He did not have good recruiters on his staff (as a general rule)
Although he was trying to get them before he was fired.
Too many keyboard coaches out there who prefer their delusions to reality.
It is all about the record to them as they really do not know anything about the game.
They get their opinion from TV analysts and could not break down a play if their life depended upon it.
The TV generation.
I am a member of it but I was fortunate to be intelligent with intelligent parents who taught me that the average person is as dumb as a stump and everything needs to be verified.
The intelligence community also taught me that before I went back to school and got a pair of doctorates and started teaching and coaching.
The maxim that I live by is "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear! And verify everything!"
My Dad also taught that "People are Stupid. Judge for yourself."
Good advise. Particularly on a forum.
- Jun 9, 2014
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Mullen philosophy was development over recruiting.....period. How'd that work out for us?
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I stand corrected. I don't know where I got NH from.
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I disagree completely. The caveat being he was CAPABLE of preparation but exceedingly lazy. He only bothered to prepare for one or two games a year. Most of the time he didnt bother and was happy enough to just burn the first half, go into the locker room down a score or two if he had to and make adjustments.
He was a well above average, though not quite excellent, half time adjustments coach. I sometimes struggle to think about anything he is good at, but this is clearly his strength.
He could also, if forced by a superior or by circumstances (like Trash), call a pretty good passing game or a mediocre conventional run game (think Latsko era).
It's sad really. He was capable but was too wrapped up in a middle school level option run game that doesnt work and genenrally just too lazy to use his talents in an optimal manner.
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he really wasn't into development.
but in general 5th year seniors beat most sophomores when they are lined up against you. he just doesn't realize that he cannot force these kids to be 5th seniors. the good ones are leaving in three years.
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Napier has a championship game to coach a week from Saturday. UF is not going to step all over Louisiana. So if he is the guy, they will not announce it until that game is over.
Unless it is someone like Stoops without a job, UF is not going to announce it until their regular season is over. That is what they did the last 2 hires. (I don't remember about Muschamp but he was an assistant anyway.) If it is a head guy somewhere, UF will not announce them until their last regular season/championship game is over.
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Yeah.... no he doesnt.
No one who runs options plays with Kyle Trash 45% of the time has adapted even the slightest.
All while the unblocked DE whom.Trash was supposed to force to stay home to protect the edge on a keep crashes and hits the RB in the backfield.
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That is simply not true. His preparation and game day coaching was very good.
He just did not recruit to the level needed to compete with Bama and UGa and the like.
His coaching could not overcome that when he got a year with less talent. His coaching could not overcome recruiting this year.
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Exactly!
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You are overcompensating. Mullen did not run the option 45% of the time and really not much at all.
He changed his offense to suit Trask.
This kind of blind recollection to suit one's preference is very common among people.
They call this projection and it is a denial in order to prove a nonexistent point.
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Mullen > McElwain > Muschamp, in doing the job that needs to be done at UF. Muschamp and McElwain thought that UF's fans would be happy with a bad offense. Mullen's offense was much much better than either of them.
To stay the UF coach you must win with a good offense. This job eats coaches alive with poor offenses. Think about Mullen. Did Grantham get him fired? Not really, what got him fired was not playing the best QB and putting a poor offense on the field this year. Maybe it was loyalty, maybe it was stubornness, but Mullen seemingly never understood how little credit he got with the fan base for Trask because Mullen waited for an injury to play him.
To stay the UF coach you must win with a good offense. This job eats coaches alive with poor offenses. Think about Mullen. Did Grantham get him fired? Not really, what got him fired was not playing the best QB and putting a poor offense on the field this year. Maybe it was loyalty, maybe it was stubornness, but Mullen seemingly never understood how little credit he got with the fan base for Trask because Mullen waited for an injury to play him.
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- Jun 19, 2014
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You're so full
it's coming out of your ears... and mouth. You don't know dck about football and nearly everything you've said in this thread is 100% wrong, most of it straight up retarded. "Good preparer and game day coach"Give. Me. A. Fking. Break.
He's one of the worst preparers and in game coaches I've ever seen. Theres a reason our first half team was an abortion 8/10 times. The dude didn't even watch film or develop an opponent specific game plan. He just winged it and if it didn't work, came out after halftime trying something else. His clock management was horrific. Winding the clock when we needed to score, calling time outs so that the other team could get the ball back and have time for a score, being down 10 with only a couple mins left and calling run plays with no 2 min offense and no sense of urgency. Seriously, just STFU.
