Billy Napier - UF Head Football Coach

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Saulgoodman

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When are you going to become a Supporting Member?

When we return back to a top contender every year :cool:

To many beta males in here at the moment. Can't bring myself to admit that I paid money to read dirty Donk and the boys biatch religiously about the state of the program. Also, I'm the type of fan that actually expects a return on their investment. I refuse to eat a $hit sandwich, even if it comes from the University of Florida. Give me a reason and proof to invest, and I'm all in.

By the way, I'm still trying restock my Florida apparel from the Tennessee loss in 16.
 

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When we return back to a top contender every year :cool:

To many beta males in here at the moment. Can't bring myself to admit that I paid money to read dirty Donk and the boys biatch religiously about the state of the program. Also, I'm the type of fan that actually expects a return on their investment. I refuse to eat a $hit sandwich, even if it comes from the University of Florida. Give me a reason and proof to invest, and I'm all in.

By the way, I'm still trying restock my Florida apparel from the Tennessee loss in 16.
You don't get a smidge of entertainment value on this site?
 

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So winning is irrelevant now?
You cant win without passing in the SEC. It is THE weak spot in SEC defenses. One of the podcast guys did a long article in the athletic about scoring equals explosing plays which equals vertical passing. Maybe someone can point us a link.

Plus passing is what attracts elite gamechangers, whether QB or WR. The elite kids dont want to come and block for option offenses.

Winning is relevant. If you play to win 20-17, you are going to lose to Kintucky half the time. Ask Dan.
 

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You cant win without passing in the SEC. It is THE weak spot in SEC defenses. One of the podcast guys did a long article in the athletic about scoring equals explosing plays which equals vertical passing. Maybe someone can point us a link.

Winning is relevant. If you play to win 20-17, you are going to lose to Kintucky half the time. Ask Dan.
Dude, UGA doesn't pass at all and they are #1. They are #62 in the nation at 238 yards a game. This completely destroys what you just wrote.

You guys act like Napier runs a leather-helmet type offense where they pass 5 times a game.
 

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Napier's W/L record and his recruiting are exactly where we would want them to be, the hand-wringing is coming from his passing yards rankings. That's literally it. Suddenly passing yards are the only things that matter in college football.
The win pct for teams that rush for over 100 yds in CFB 75%. TOP winner is 67%. They go pretty much and in hand.
 

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Dude, UGA doesn't pass at all and they are #1.

Agreed but who have they had to throw the ball against?

That defense could be so dominant that they don't have to, but I highly doubt it. I think the jury is still out and we will see if Frodo can win a shootout against Young from Bama or Stroud from OSU. They had a dominant defense in 18 and still lost because they couldn't put up points with Fromm's sorry a$$.

Their season will be considered and absolute bust if they don't win it all. Even worse if they lose to Bama and then get bounced in the first round(which I'm praying happens).
 

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Welcome back Muschump. Weve missed you.
You can dump on it all you want. How many SB did the Chargers win with Fouts. How about Marino. Running the ball is still king. That's not to say passing isn't important, clearly it is. We beat Ugay last year but lost the rushing battle because Trask carved them up with the wheel route. Did we beat FSU in 97 because of the pass? Those back to back years for the cowboys, they ran the ball down your throat in the second half.

Look at the 4 games we've won and look at the rushing stats. Sadly enough or best win against UT. 283-144
 
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You cant win without passing in the SEC. It is THE weak spot in SEC defenses. One of the podcast guys did a long article in the athletic about scoring equals explosing plays which equals vertical passing. Maybe someone can point us a link.

Plus passing is what attracts elite gamechangers, whether QB or WR. The elite kids dont want to come and block for option offenses.

Winning is relevant. If you play to win 20-17, you are going to lose to Kintucky half the time. Ask Dan.

I don't disagree. I just don't think you focus strictly on that. Because you're also unlikely to win much without solid run game, defense, OL play, etc. which starts with recruiting. Once again, if we're turning our nose up at a slam dunk definite hire, I get it. But everything is a risk this year. If it gets recruiting going in the right direction and raises the support level commitment, then the hire it will have accomplished its goal.
 

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Dude, UGA doesn't pass at all and they are #1. They are #62 in the nation at 238 yards a game. This completely destroys what you just wrote.

You guys act like Napier runs a leather-helmet type offense where they pass 5 times a game.

Ok, how about this....are you EXCITED about his offense?
 

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There's been a lot gnashing of teeth about CEO versus coordinator types on here. Well give me a CEO any day. I've had enough of coach-coordinators. We've had Mullen for offense and Muschamp for defense. I'm still trying to figure out what McElwain was. The last successful coach-coordinator was SOS and yes he neglected defense. The fact that Zook was his defensive coordinator should say something about SOS attention to defense. And I'd forgotten that Zook would have been our defensive coordinator in "95 if he had not taken the NFL job.

As others have said, our program is in shambles. That's what 2 coach-coordinators and a charlatan will get you. (Yes I figured out McElwain.) We need a program builder/CEO that can:
  • Create a team identity and personality. Don't discount this. It will take some time to get the smell out of the place and instill a "I aint got time to bleed" attitude.
  • Hire and develop great assistants/staff. Yes develop. The best way to maintain that identity is to have a succession plan in place as staff leave. You need new blood, every organization does, but you have to be strategic about it. By the way, that's what Saban did with Kiffin.
  • Manage the administration and the media. Manage up!
  • Recruit, recruit, recruit!!!
Undoubtedly somebody will ask, why can't a head coach do all of that and also coach offense/defense. And the answer should be obvious, limited time, limited focus. Limited time in a week, only so many things a human being can truly focus on. If a coordinator position is a full time job on most teams, and your head coach is one of your coordinators, what's he neglecting from the list above?

Regarding Napier, I admit to being underwhelmed. And that's mostly because, as others have said, that while his accomplishments at UL are commendable, that's a pretty low bar. I don't know that Napier is the guy, but his program building approach, yeah. I know this, if he is our guy, Stricklin better tell him that a ball control, 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense won't fly here.

Regarding Kiffin, pardon my French, but "HE$$ NO". Kiffin strikes me a s "me first" sort of character. Not someone to put the program, the staff, or players above his own needs. And if you watched the egg bowl, you saw that he went for it on 4th down from their own 34 yard line on the opening drive, score 0-0. It was stupid, no reason to do something like that at this point of the game. Such a selfish, "look at me the great play caller" move. That one play pretty much sealed it for me. (By the way, I had similar one play moment with Dan Mullen when he punted on 4th and 2 from about Bama's 40 with just a few minutes left in the game and a small lead. Mullen blinked and State lost.)
 
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