Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

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Spurdog98

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That kid from Uva should be getting in the transfer portal, he can flat play his azz off. I don't know what the heck he is thinking about right now but if he stays he's going to regret it.
 

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Do you guys think fewer kids will commit early this year? I’m not sure why many of them don’t just wait.
Outside of the studs locked in at Bama and Ga, yes. There is just to much coaching turnovers at major schools right now. The transfer portal will be nuts as well.
 

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I said a few months back that one of my wishes for the new coach was that he wasn’t polarizing, namely through actions he took and choices he made. This is slowly happening here yet again. You may not like every player that a previous staff recruited or think they fit exactly what you want to do, but you also can’t think that having a completely nonexistent class will work either. I don’t know if Evers or any of the others will be great, but I don’t like the approach of burning something to the ground just because. Even if from just a perception standpoint, we need positive developments, not the opposite.

The other thing it tells me is that he’s content with losing if it means doing things his way. Someone like Spurrier and Meyer made it work with what they inherited and built in the existing class, as imperfect as it was. You don’t alienate and discard. You find ways to win with what you have because you can’t stand to lose. Guys like Gresham, Sledge, Jon Demps and others weren’t great but they helped build for 2006. This does not appear to be the approach to this point, and it’s officially becoming a concern.

What history shows is that this doesn’t work. Not for the coach, not for the program. And the reason it does not is because in the same day the AD is telling a new coach he’ll be given plenty of time to implement his plan and vision, even if it’s ugly initially, that same AD is selling boosters on great things happening quickly and thus an impetus for their financial commitment. When that doesn’t happen, it implodes and rightly so. It didn’t work for Rich Rod at Michigan, it didn’t work for Strong at Texas, on and on. It doesn’t work. For a “football junkie”, he should know this. And if things don’t demonstrably improve quickly this will be the last of these negotiations Stricklin will be a part of.

I’ll lastly say this, sometimes things are fairly obvious. Whether it was a complete 180 change in direction under WM, an insistence that 2-3*s could work under JM, the decision to bring in a hated DC under Mullen, or just the basic choices of who should be playing and who should be sitting, this board and the fans in general have been an absolutely overbearing bunch. But you know what else we’ve been? Dead on the effing money. I don’t need someone to tell me how much smarter they are than me simply because they’re paid millions. As I said in my New Era post, we’ve seen this before and it’s not that hard to see mistakes even from behind a keyboard. I consider this current stretch to be the first of Napier’s calls and they are not off to a good start.
 

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I said a few months back that one of my wishes for the new coach was that he wasn’t polarizing, namely through actions he took and choices he made. This is slowly happening here yet again. You may not like every player that a previous staff recruited or think they fit exactly what you want to do, but you also can’t think that having a completely nonexistent class will work either. I don’t know if Evers or any of the others will be great, but I don’t like the approach of burning something to the ground just because. Even if from just a perception standpoint, we need positive developments, not the opposite.

The other thing it tells me is that he’s content with losing if it means doing things his way. Someone like Spurrier and Meyer made it work with what they inherited and built in the existing class, as imperfect as it was. You don’t alienate and discard. You find ways to win with what you have because you can’t stand to lose. Guys like Gresham, Sledge, Jon Demps and others weren’t great but they helped build for 2006. This does not appear to be the approach to this point, and it’s officially becoming a concern.

What history shows is that this doesn’t work. Not for the coach, not for the program. And the reason it does not is because in the same day the AD is telling a new coach he’ll be given plenty of time to implement his plan and vision, even if it’s ugly initially, that same AD is selling boosters on great things happening quickly and thus an impetus for their financial commitment. When that doesn’t happen, it implodes and rightly so. It didn’t work for Rich Rod at Michigan, it didn’t work for Strong at Texas, on and on. It doesn’t work. For a “football junkie”, he should know this. And if things don’t demonstrably improve quickly this will be the last of these negotiations Stricklin will be a part of.

I’ll lastly say this, sometimes things are fairly obvious. Whether it was a complete 180 change in direction under WM, an insistence that 2-3*s could work under JM, the decision to bring in a hated DC under Mullen, or just the basic choices of who should be playing and who should be sitting, this board and the fans in general have been an absolutely overbearing bunch. But you know what else we’ve been? Dead on the effing money. I don’t need someone to tell me how much smarter they are than me simply because they’re paid millions. As I said in my New Era post, we’ve seen this before and it’s not that hard to see mistakes even from behind a keyboard. I consider this current stretch to be the first of Napier’s calls and they are not off to a good start.
I think we should wait and see how the class rounds out before assuming it’s going to be empty.
 

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Even if you are too lazy to look, it would seem like the fact that he was committed to Dan Mullen who runs his quarterback more than just about anyone would make it obvious that he is a dual threat quarterback who is perfectly happy running the ball.
You're right and I'm sorry for saying such a thing without thinking about that! It is lazy on my part and I'll try and not do this again.✔
 

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You may not like every player that a previous staff recruited or think they fit exactly what you want to do, but you also can’t think that having a completely nonexistent class will work either. I don’t know if Evers or any of the others will be great, but I don’t like the approach of burning something to the ground just because.
The fact that Evers was one of the first visits is a strong indicator that he wasn't deliberately trying to run him off.

In the Evers case, Mullens would have also been his position coach and Napier would be too. At some level even if Napier is 10x the recruiter Mullen was, that doesn't mean every kid is going to like him better. This kid committed to Dan Mullen who is an arrogant prick and sharp X and O guy who also wants the kids to have fun, will tolerate some laziness and is loyal to a fault. Slingblade is a humble, religious, blue collar guy that expects everyone to earn what they get and holds people accountable. I'm not sure if we've ever had this big of a swing in personality in a head coaching change.
 

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According to TOS (I don’t know if this is true), Napier told Evers he wanted two QB in this class, and Evers jumped ship. This also makes sense with Evers tweet about him being a small part of his plan.

Also, Evers regressed on his completion percentage and his TD to interception ratio this year. It was pretty bad. In comparison, AR15, Kitna, and Del Rio had much better completion % and TD to pick ratios in their senior year of HS.

If this is true and Evers is scared of competition, we probably DWHA.
 
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Life was better when we (fans) didn’t know anything about recruiting, and the first time we learned the players’ names was when they ran from the Swamp’s sideline to the field for the first time.
I also miss like hell being able to wear an onion on my belt. People look at you crazy when you do it now.
 

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So you don't think much of 4 Star Nick Evers?

Stole this from TOS, but it’s good info and pretty revealing:

Senior year completion % is one stat that translates to college level for most QBs.

CDR and Kitna were better QBs out of HS.
Evers - Completion % of 55 and one interception every 2.3 TDs.
CDR - Completion % of 64 and one interception every 3.2 TDs.
Kitna - Completion % of 62 and one interception every 10.6 TDs.

Other FL QBs for comparison:
Trask - Completion % of 73 and no interception against 10 TDs (Limited reps being backup)
AR15 - Completion % of 64 and 1 interception against 8 TDs (Limited reps due to injury)
 
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Stole this from TOS, but it’s good info and pretty revealing:

Senior year completion % is one stat that translates to college level for most QBs.

CDR and Kitna were better QBs out of HS.
Evers - Completion % of 55 and one interception every 2.3 TDs.
CDR - Completion % of 64 and one interception every 3.2 TDs.
Kitna - Completion % of 62 and one interception every 10.6 TDs.

"I will add other FL QBs for comparison:
Trask - Completion % of 73 and no interception against 10 TDs (Limited reps being backup)
AR15 - Completion % of 64 and 1 interception against 8 TDs (Limited rep maybe due to injury)

Evers reminds me of Carson Beck. Are you getting the Evers from his junior season or his senior season? In the case of Beck, his senior year was the one UGly got on campus. I'll be shocked if he ever sees a meaningful down for the dwags. Brock Vandagriff is the future for them.
 

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Holy cow there is alot of nervous Bettys freaking out over this Evers decommit even tho he only completes 54% of his passes and has a ton of ints? He is an obvious project. Yes we want a QB or 2 in this class but can you take a fuchin breath and see what we get before your panties get all wrangled up? Calm them titties down a notch.
 

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The only thing I am worried about with Evers decommitting is losing Gibson. He is a stud WR and just got a big bump into the top 50 of recruit rankings. Napier needs to reach out ASAP and keep him in the fold.
 

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Prepare to not get Shemar James too. CRob leaving sealed that. He posted UGA stuff last night.
 
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