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I don't think Meyer ever knew who he really was, he acted a role, it wasn't who he was. He copied, but had no core. You can get away with that, even with great success, until you can't.
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The psychology element of his game is often talked about but still very understated. I’ve mentioned before but one of his former players told me he’d never been so jacked up for a game in his life. Was told all week he was starting and to tell his family, who decided to attend for the big moment. And then he never took a snap.
Said he was the best coach he’d ever encountered and also that if he walked past him in the street he’d punch him in his face. That’s Urban Meyer.
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Some of y'all need to go back and read the report. He didn't just now decide to report it. He reported it to the front office thru his reps immediately and that was that. The jags org leaked the info this week for PR purposes about his firing.
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Yes, it is easy relatively easy to motivate the young and naive to do things they would never otherwise consider over short spans of time. But as time goes on, and you have to actually lead, and have core principles, to get men who have lost that naivety to do those things over and over for years. Soldiers with more than two years experience can spot a fraud who otherwise acts the part that was able to get them to do superhuman things, so can pro football players... They too have lost the naivety
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In rough numbers, I have always said that the splits on skill vs adrenaline (and naive) is this: high school = 25/75, college = 50/50, pro = 75/25... Meyer was a master of capitalizing on adrenaline/being naive. But that crumbled over time for him in college, and was doomed from jump in pros. Spurrier was similarly doomed in pros in that his magic at college level focused on mismatches in the 50% skill part. That was erased in pros when the game shifts to 100% of the players having more skill than the mismatches that existed in college. Snyder didn't help, but Spurrier always said, "I want to see if it'll work at the next level" and knew when to walk away when it didn't. That's because Spurrier was genuine/real deal and has a core. Urban is a fraud whose act got exposed. Actually, a lot like Dan.
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I know a couple of players/families who either played for him or had dealings with him. The constant in their descriptions of him is that's he's a pathological liar, amongst various other descriptions like narcissist, fraud, and sociopath. Obviously one might argue that they are bitter or hold resentment and that Meyer is actually a choir boy, I have no idea but based on what I've seen I'd think its the former.
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I is also think he was consumed by his own monster. If he’d stayed at UF, faced some of the music he had a hand in creating, and worked through it, I think his message would still hold water to this day. Fair or not, it was too easy to call his leaving, then coming back, then leaving again, a walk away from the challenge. Resurfacing at Osu a year later and then doing almost the same thing there kind of sealed who he is. Tough to try and convince anyone, let alone grown adults, that you have to stick it out and grit through the adversity after all that.
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He was, and is, incapable of doing those things because its not who he is, or ever was.
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Meyer quit once, fired twice in last three jobs because of who he is at his core. Spurrier walked away, on his terms, from his last three jobs because of who he is at his core. One is a man who knows who he is, one is a fraud, and again, history is replete with very successful frauds. In trophy terms, Meyer is more "successful," but which one would you put your kid with in combat?
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Yup, while infinitely different, leading soldiers and leading a sports team are very, very, similar, just far different consequences
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He wasn’t fired twice
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Fair point but at what point do we blame the actual players? Urban didn’t throw INTs, fumble, miss FGs, etc….the Jags didn’t have an Urban problem…they have a culture of losing problem…as a lifelong fan of a team that has been awful the last 20 years minus a couple random decent seasons, it’s baffling to me how we finally get a coach who cares, who hates losing and wants to succeed, only to be fired because he dared to yell at people and call them out..that’s why the Jags are the Jags….what’s going to be the excuse when we lose the rest of our games this year? (Other than maybe beating Houston). Urban isn’t there soooo
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He reported it to the team immediately, but from this excerpt from the Tampa Bay Times, it does appear he just recently initiated contact with the media over it. Judge as you will.
“Lambo, currently a free agent, said he felt it was his obligation to come forward with his story after watching Meyer’s run-ins with players and assistant coaches in recent weeks.”
Former Jaguars kicker Josh Lambo says he was kicked by Urban Meyer during warmups
I’m like you, trying to piece it all together. One thing I feel very certain of. Josh Lambo has a brighter future engaging in pillow fights on the Bachelorette than kicking field goals in the NFL.
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Only Meyer and OSU know for sure, but if you read between the lines, his exodus amid the Zach Smith mess smelled more like being relieved of his duties than the voluntary retirement that was portrayed to the media.
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With Meyer the tell all is always the defeated sideline pose with his legs spread wide apart, the hands on his knees and the head bowed. We started seeing a lot of that toward the end of the 2018 season. Who knows? Maybe he couldn’t find a good veggie pizza.
