Law Donkey out on his a$$ again

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I can certainly understand that the UF UAA would not have liked how this board was about McElwain and Mullen. I can certainly understand that the UF UAA would have both carrots and sticks to encourage Ox to moderate the negativity of this board, but perhaps I am wrong in thinking the UAA cares that much about this particular message board.

What carrots? What sticks? I’m curious - I’ve never thought the UAA paid any attention to us. They control their messaging tightly, but unless Ox is actually Scott Carter I can’t imagine the UAA has anything to offer or threaten.
 

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What carrots? What sticks? I’m curious - I’ve never thought the UAA paid any attention to us. They control their messaging tightly, but unless Ox is actually Scott Carter I can’t imagine the UAA has anything to offer or threaten.

To mention a few:

Carrots:

1. Inside information like who is going to be UF's the next coach.

2. Invitation to events on Campus.

3. Invitations to tour new facilities.

Sticks:

1. Cut off from all information

2. Harassment about UF logos or other property rights, maybe.

3. Banning from UF events and even campus.

I doubt they would do the 3rd stick, but who knows. But UF certainly has carrots and sticks that implicitly or explicitly keep everyone covering UF starting with the Gainesville Sun and down to the smallest podcast in line somewhat.

I do agree that UF probably pays little attention small site like perhaps this is. (I don't know where it ranks in terms of UF fan sites.) But I have heard podcast hinting at pressure not to call the inhouse writers "state run media."
 

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As I recall, he was the best WR recruit in his class… on paper. Turns out Hilliard, Anthony, Green and even McGriff were slightly better.

Wasn’t Jaime Richardson supposed to be in that class? Maybe a grades problem and came a year later or something like that.
 

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I can't help but notice Il Duce's decree that we must all love the new coach and be positive about the hire came immediately after Slevin said mean things about him and his message board. By the way, Slevin, Pat Dooley, Swamp Gas and the like are never going to like you or this place no matter how much you :pumper:

Law was one of the few people here who's posts I cared anything about reading (in the sports forum). I didn't always agree with him (I thought Kyle Trask was undeserving of the "Trash" moniker after the career he had, for example), but I usually found whatever position he took on Gator football to be well reasoned and defensible. One of the things I recall him saying during one of our many failed coaching expeditions and how it was avoidable, was that one can look at the list of ingredients and make an educated guess as to what they are being served for dinner. When you look at Zook, Chump, Sharkelwain, and Cousin Eddie, you can immediately see that if you looked at the body of the career, you had a reasonable idea of who they were and you could see a mile away why they weren't going to work here. Clearly Law looked at Napier's ingredients and doesn't believe he's going to like it. FWIW I share his concerns.

Anyway, I hope he comes back but I understand if he doesn't. This place will be considerably less interesting or worth visiting without him.
 

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If you tards want swonkey back so bad, pay Ox, he'll let him back.

Money talks :grin:
Your mom understands this concept well, that’s why I agreed to come over last night.

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If we are being honest, I think this is how we all felt when we found out our Dark Lord exiled the talking donkey.

 

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As I recall, he was the best WR recruit in his class… on paper. Turns out Hilliard, Anthony, Green and even McGriff were slightly better.

If I remember correctly Nafis dropped a TD pass against Ugly in 1997 that could have salvaged a win in that game.
 

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To mention a few:

Carrots:

1. Inside information like who is going to be UF's the next coach.

2. Invitation to events on Campus.

3. Invitations to tour new facilities.

Sticks:

1. Cut off from all information

2. Harassment about UF logos or other property rights, maybe.

3. Banning from UF events and even campus.

I doubt they would do the 3rd stick, but who knows. But UF certainly has carrots and sticks that implicitly or explicitly keep everyone covering UF starting with the Gainesville Sun and down to the smallest podcast in line somewhat.

I do agree that UF probably pays little attention small site like perhaps this is. (I don't know where it ranks in terms of UF fan sites.) But I have heard podcast hinting at pressure not to call the inhouse writers "state run media."

Thanks. I hadn’t really thought of GC having those applied to it. They are certainly relevant for Rivals, 247 and other sites & podcasts who report & use access. And Ox did have a scoop on Napier.

It would be cool if Ox designated a few trusted Gainesville area members to get credentialed & share reports on facilities, practices etc. But information is highly regulated since Meyer & certainly Muschamp. All the reporters seem to get the same info & interview availability. I don’t do any pay sites for that reason.
 

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I can't help but notice Il Duce's decree that we must all love the new coach and be positive about the hire came immediately after Slevin said mean things about him and his message board. By the way, Slevin, Pat Dooley, Swamp Gas and the like are never going to like you or this place no matter how much you :pumper:

Law was one of the few people here who's posts I cared anything about reading (in the sports forum). I didn't always agree with him (I thought Kyle Trask was undeserving of the "Trash" moniker after the career he had, for example), but I usually found whatever position he took on Gator football to be well reasoned and defensible. One of the things I recall him saying during one of our many failed coaching expeditions and how it was avoidable, was that one can look at the list of ingredients and make an educated guess as to what they are being served for dinner. When you look at Zook, Chump, Sharkelwain, and Cousin Eddie, you can immediately see that if you looked at the body of the career, you had a reasonable idea of who they were and you could see a mile away why they weren't going to work here. Clearly Law looked at Napier's ingredients and doesn't believe he's going to like it. FWIW I share his concerns.

Anyway, I hope he comes back but I understand if he doesn't. This place will be considerably less interesting or worth visiting without him.

Once Trask started to excel I saw his ongoing use of “Trash” as needling everyone. He acknowledged his shockingly good play in posts.

But he never wanted to yield on the futility of signing too many 2 & 3* players, Mac’s general incompetence and Mullen’s schematic philosophy despite Trask being a striking exception to all of those points. Trask is an exception, but those rules hold.

And he acknowledged the positives in Napier’s plan plus the ESD commitments. He doesn’t like his offensive scheme, which has been 60% run.
 

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I wondered, too, so I asked. It came rolling off his tongue as smooth as mother’s milk. Nafis Karim, an obscure wide receiver who “amassed” 71 receptions in Spurrier’s offense from 1995-98. A special teams guy whose stats came at garbage time. Go Google his name. You’ll see a bloodied terrorist next to his pic. One of the two guys played wide receiver at Florida and I’m really not sure which one it was.

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Curious, I asked why. Karim exemplified the recruiting genius that was Spurrier, he said. I thought to myself, how much rum has this guy had? True story, though. I ribbed him over it for years.
I remember Nafis Karim. He was a disappointment after the great WR’s we had previous
 

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Wasn’t Jaime Richardson supposed to be in that class? Maybe a grades problem and came a year later or something like that.
I don't remember hearing anything about that, but I'm certainly not the official Gator Football historian. So, that may have been the case.
 

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If I remember correctly Nafis dropped a TD pass against Ugly in 1997 that could have salvaged a win in that game.
Quite possibly. I recall a couple of drops by him and mcgriff during the 97 lsu game that likely cost us that game, too. If Green had just ONE legit WR to share the load, 97 could've had another trip to Atlanta. It would've also helped if doug johnson wasn't such an arrogant, stubborn idiot.
 

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I remember Nafis Karim. He was a disappointment after the great WR’s we had previous

To be fair, Karim isn’t the only major disappointment in Law’s toolbag. He was a big fan of Jeff Brohm until it became apparent Jeff Brohm was an utter failure. I think what he learned from it all is it’s far safer to criticize someone else’s like than to plug your own.
 

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I have long wondered if Donk and Ox were the same person. Now with the regime change at UF, Ox seems to be under pressure for this board to be more positive.

I can certainly understand that the UF UAA would not have liked how this board was about McElwain and Mullen. I can certainly understand that the UF UAA would have both carrots and sticks to encourage Ox to moderate the negativity of this board, but perhaps I am wrong in thinking the UAA cares that much about this particular message board.

Still it appears to me Ox has decided to make this board more positive and to do this he has deleted his alter ego Donk.

Or perhaps we don't care what the uaa thinks about us? We're a freaking message board.

As outsiders, it appears every decision they've made was to do things on the cheap despite being one of the biggest revenue generators in college football. Glad to hear they are finally willing to invest in CBN's vision, but that's 12 years later than it should've been. We have every right to be pissed at them and the ADs.
 

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Glad to hear they are finally willing to invest in CBN's vision, but that's 12 years later than it should've been. We have every right to be pissed at them and the ADs.
The question is "Did the other jerks have a vision to invest in?". It never appeared they did..
 

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The question is "Did the other jerks have a vision to invest in?". It never appeared they did..

True, but I was referring to urbs’ departing comments to muschamp that “the program is broken,” which was directed at foley’s “arms race” comment to the media. Despite the power shift to bamuh, foley and the uaa could’ve responded back then instead of waiting over a decade to address the growing disadvantage.
 

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I really didn’t realize we had so many women on this board. Hell…the actual women here apparently have less estrogen than some.

Whatever, I guess.

Says the dude who bragged about wearing a tube top and a dress, but not being good enough at it to have sluggo take a second glance at you.
 

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True, but I was referring to urbs’ departing comments to muschamp that “the program is broken,” which was directed at foley’s “arms race” comment to the media. Despite the power shift to bamuh, foley and the uaa could’ve responded back then instead of waiting over a decade to address the growing disadvantage.

Well since you want to take this thread in this direction and this is the political board, I'll just point out the history of bureaucracy coming before success rather than following success, not.

So Napier has a plan to build a big bureaucracy at UF. That works so well in so many other areas of life, how could it miss in football. (To a little bit stay on topic this was a blind spot of Donkey/Law.) For example Saban hired the first guy with the title analyst between his 3rd and 4th seasons after winning a BCS title game.

How Alabama football hires evolved, where they are now

I am not saying UF should not hire anaylists. I am saying that in government, in corporations, and I highly suspect in football success comes first then comes bureaucracy.
 
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Let me get this straight....

A football thread in the sports forum turns into a thread about banning the donkey.

A thread about banning the donkey in the lounge turn into a football discussion.



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