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Florida Baseball: Hunter Barco out indefinitely with elbow injury

Looks like Barco could be OUT for the year now. He was by far our best pitcher and now he is OUT. How many games do you think we win the rest of the season? Looking like less than 8 wins the rest of the year. Sully definitely gone since he hasn't developed any pitching depth or prospects. I still think he has been looking to jump anyways.
 

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I wish I knew how to put sully face on Angelina's Dads face.
 
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I was impressed with our pitching overall; after one major collapse in the 2nd inning, we played the no. 1 team in the country well. Still, baseball is a 9 inning game and it only takes one good one to win. I really don't like losing to the vols.

It seemed Sully wanted to keep Slater in for a full 5 even though he was struggling early in that inning. Certainly, with Barco maybe gone for the year, Sully had to be hoping Slater might be that Friday starter. Fortunately, Ursitti was outstanding in relief and Jameson came in big for his college pitching debut (Good luck to him).

I agree with Sully in one regard, the Gators need starters who can get us 5 or 6 innings; this regular 3 to 4 inning stuff drives this fan crazy. Sproat and Neely are our next scheduled starters; both have made it to 6 innings, Sproat has pitched very well at times and regularly gets to 5 or 6, and Neely, who hadn't started a game until 2 weeks ago, pitched 6 innings last week getting the win against Vandy. Let's hope they can do it against the vols on Saturday and Sunday.
 

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I think Sully is going to get some more younger guys in there and leave them in their to get experience pitching and sink or swim with them in there. Looks like he will get them to try and showcase their skills for the next coach or for other teams for the transfer portal. All accounts and signs lead to Sully moving on to another program like when he flirted with other teams the last few years.
 

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I think Sully is going to get some more younger guys in there and leave them in their to get experience pitching and sink or swim with them in there. Looks like he will get them to try and showcase their skills for the next coach or for other teams for the transfer portal. All accounts and signs lead to Sully moving on to another program like when he flirted with other teams the last few years.
You keep saying this but never share these "signs". Other than not liking losing what "accounts and signs" point to Sully wanting to leave?

I agree he is going to go deeper with his pitching changes. He has to let them develop under fire.
 

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I think Sully sees the writing on the wall and also sees the frustration from the fans who questions his baseball antics. He has taken the program as far as he can and after flirting with moving on to other programs the last few years(what bigger indication do you need? Lol), he seems poised to move on. You can tell by his demeanor in the dugout that he just knows they don't have the team to make any noise in the postseason. He has the same look that Mullen and MW had in that they already knew they were leaving. Time to come up with 3-5 names so we can jump start our coaching search and get a great coach before they are all gone.
 

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I think Sully sees the writing on the wall and also sees the frustration from the fans who questions his baseball antics. He has taken the program as far as he can and after flirting with moving on to other programs the last few years(what bigger indication do you need? Lol), he seems poised to move on. You can tell by his demeanor in the dugout that he just knows they don't have the team to make any noise in the postseason. He has the same look that Mullen and MW had in that they already knew they were leaving. Time to come up with 3-5 names so we can jump start our coaching search and get a great coach before they are all gone.
I don’t buy it. He’s paid like top 5 money, has one of if not the nicest ballparks in the land, is in a state that has loads of talent, etc.
He’s got it made and would be a fool to leave.
 

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I think Sully sees the writing on the wall and also sees the frustration from the fans who questions his baseball antics. He has taken the program as far as he can and after flirting with moving on to other programs the last few years(what bigger indication do you need? Lol), he seems poised to move on. You can tell by his demeanor in the dugout that he just knows they don't have the team to make any noise in the postseason. He has the same look that Mullen and MW had in that they already knew they were leaving. Time to come up with 3-5 names so we can jump start our coaching search and get a great coach before they are all gone.

Coaches like Cousin Eddie and Mike have that look not because they know they are leaving but because they know they are not good enough to do anything about it b/c they are genuinely horrendous coaches. They accept their failure and are happy that they are being handsomely rewarded for doing a shyt job, hence the shyt eating grin on their face. Coaches who have the confidence they can make changes say so and do so. Sully sounds like Cousin Eddie after every game: Well we hit a guy and walked the leadoff guy and threw it past the cutoff man, etc. etc. etc. We don;t need the excuse recap. We need it to get fixed.
 

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I know too little about baseball to even critique it. Maybe Sully needs a sports psychiatrist with a minor in hypnotism.?

For many years I have liked the teams Sully brought us. I don't like the losing results Sully is producing now; however, he lacks the top-notched players. Why is that? Have we lost that UF luster that we had a few years back.? Can Sully do things to restore our gleam.? We can't just keep changing coaches everywhere. That's not a plan.

There does need to be a change in our batting attack. Would that be a coaching change.? And why all the HBPs.? It parallels the football Gators leading the SEC in penalties, we are leaders in HBPs.? We can't seem to get it corrected. It just keeps on coming.?? That process points to ineffective coaching. Definitely, some changes are needed. Personally, I need a better baseball team to watch.

Is there an excellent HC we can switch to.?
 

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I know too little about baseball to even critique it. Maybe Sully needs a sports psychiatrist with a minor in hypnotism.?

For many years I have liked the teams Sully brought us. I don't like the losing results Sully is producing now; however, he lacks the top-notched players. Why is that? Have we lost that UF luster that we had a few years back.? Can Sully do things to restore our gleam.? We can't just keep changing coaches everywhere. That's not a plan.

There does need to be a change in our batting attack. Would that be a coaching change.? And why all the HBPs.? It parallels the football Gators leading the SEC in penalties, we are leaders in HBPs.? We can't seem to get it corrected. It just keeps on coming.?? That process points to ineffective coaching. Definitely, some changes are needed. Personally, I need a better baseball team to watch.

Is there an excellent HC we can switch to.?

Sully has consistently refused to adequately address the hitting woes. He is now facing the fact that his approach will not consistently win the conference or NCAA championship, even with top 5 recruiting classes. Now his pitching expertise is failing. Based on his demeanor, he doesn't really seem to care. He has won some championships ( SEC & 1 Natty) made a lot of money and has gained a lot of admiration in the industry. Maybe he is just tired of the grind and is ready to take an easier job with fewer demands. I wish him nothing but the best but I think it is time to move on.
 

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Can a college baseball player sign with a minor league team after college.? Does that happen.? I'm thinking of UF college players realizing that they probably took the wrong route in their career by signing on with Sullivan.? He can't add to their career. I'd hate for UF to get a reputation as a dead-end school.
 

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Can a college baseball player sign with a minor league team after college.? Does that happen.? I'm thinking of UF college players realizing that they probably took the wrong route in their career by signing on with Sullivan.? He can't add to their career. I'd hate for UF to get a reputation as a dead-end school.
MLB draft rules are slightly complicated, I will attempt to clarify. Unlike football a HS Sr. can be drafted by MLB. The drafted player has 3 options to consider 1) take the slotted signing bonus and head to the low minor leagues for three to five years on busses in many stops or. 2) Sign to play at a CC and be eligible for MLB draft the following year, rinse repeat the next season, 3) go to a 4 year university and become ineligible for MLB draft for 3 seasons.

This complicates recruiting too as when you are a school like UF and are pursuing top talent you have to believe the kid wants the college experience or you could be missing out on another player when you offer and lock up a player who is going pro. MLB actually favors kids drafted below the 5th or 6th round to go to college if they have a ride to a top program for development on someone else's dime. Recently MLB has greatly reduced their investment in minor league teams because it's expensive and most wash out before the show. They have also cut the number of rounds in the draft to 20 from 43 along with what they dub competitive balance rounds which are compensatory pick for teams the suck and play in smaller markets.

So understanding this more inclusive process makes HC's like Sully a value as he recruits talent that wants to come to UF and he has a history of developing a lot of 1st round MLB players. It's a long list of successful transition regardless of what the "fire Sully now" crowd opines. The last two teams have been frustrating to watch that fall on the head coach. He needs to jettison Greg Bell and re-evaluate other staff or restless boosters will demand a change at the top.
 

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If you can't sign for at least 500k and frankly I'd say 1 mil. out of HS it's a no brainer to go D1, If you are going to a reputable program that can develop for the next level. If you have some talent with more projection, particularly as a pitcher but not quite ready for D1 then Jr/CC is the best bet. But again to a reputable baseball school that has a knack for development. If there is any one player on this team that has made a name for himself as a legit next level guy by transferring in, IMO, it's Riopele. And he came from an already great baseball school.
 

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