Grier transfers to WVU

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I would've thought he'd be transferred by now. He's going to miss spring ball, where he would have a lot of reps in a new offense. His next two seasons are toast. He better go to JC if he wants to make it anywhere.
 

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This isn't a surprise. I don't see him at Ohio State. West Virginia might be a good fit for him. Richt runs a pro style so Miami would work for him, but I would hate to see him go to Miami. I like the idea of him at WVU some mid-level school.
 

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Since he already had his appeal to wave the remaining 6 game suspension denied, I don't think there is any chance he wins an appeal to have the suspension run concurrent with the required sit out year. If it was waved, UF could prossibly sue the NCAA since he transferred after being denied basically the same request.

And who really cares where he transfers? Realistically he's looking at 2018 before he becomes a starter and will only have one year left then, unless he transfers somewhere that is struggling so bad at QB in 2017 that they are willing to bench their starter as soon as Grier becomes eligible.

I'll bet he ends up at tPOSU though, because Meyer is just that big of an azzhole who loves to stick it to UF every chance he gets, and with the bucknutts Grier would have by far his best shot at the playoffs.
 

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So he really will only have about 18 games of eligibility left after he transfers, whom ever he is allowing make his career decisions has done him a disservice. He would fail the 26-27-60 rule, which some teams follow in drafting a qb (at least take it under serious consideration).

Bill Parcells wouldn't draft him due to his rules on drafting a qb:

  1. He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
  2. He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
  3. He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
  4. He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.
 

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Grier has screwed himself royally, unless he goes below FCS or JUCO. Even then he has to sit out 6 more games at some point in time.
 

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So he really will only have about 18 games of eligibility left after he transfers, whom ever he is allowing make his career decisions has done him a disservice. He would fail the 26-27-60 rule, which some teams follow in drafting a qb (at least take it under serious consideration).

Bill Parcells wouldn't draft him due to his rules on drafting a qb:

Bill Parcells is a couple years away from having his breakfast through a straw while waiting for his caregiver to change his diaper. The game has changed and QB's who can actually play are worth more than their weight in gold. Fuking Sam Bradford just signed to make over 20 million a year and someone calculated that up to this point in his career, he has made over 1 million per TD pass he has thrown.

There's only two rules now; you can't be in prison (unless you can get furlough for weekends and the occasional Monday and Thursday), and you have to be able to play. Nothing else matters.

Folks might as well get used to the idea that most likely Grier is going to play for Meyer, have a good shot at a Championship, and is going to be a first round draft pick in the 2019 draft.
 

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This isn't a surprise. I don't see him at Ohio State. West Virginia might be a good fit for him. Richt runs a pro style so Miami would work for him, but I would hate to see him go to Miami. I like the idea of him at WVU some mid-level school.
I think Miami would be a bad situation for him because of "Rumored coke problems" but wherever he goes, he's screwed! I guarantee he won't be taking anymore of his dad's advice after this :lol:
 

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I'll be curious to see how he performs. Really, he should try to go to some
college in the southwest, where DBs are disabled. Baylor would be a good fit ...
but wherever he goes he'll have to worry about beating out a 5* QB. ??

Does anybody think he's on HGH during his layoff ... why not keep using.
HGH improves your brain (executive function,confidence) visual acuity, muscle-command
perfection. In fact HGH could have contributed to Grier's insufferable arrogance. Just
think where the Griers' heads are, since HGH cost near $1,000 per month. 'Course
I'm just "projecting" that his PED was HGH... let's see if his forehead grows out 'o whack?

I'm also positing that the Griers see Will as an NFL "cash-cow".??
 

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The game has changed and QB's who can actually play are worth more than their weight in gold.

The game hasn't changed enough for the 26-27-60 rule. It still shows a high percentage of being correct for 1st round success. The game hasn't changed enough that people like Cam Newton who didn't have 26 starts are the norm. Look at your top tier quarterbacks in the NFL, almost all if not all with consistent success fall under the 26-27-60 rule and most of the guys who have consistent success also fall under the Parcells rules.

Compare both group of criteria to the top tier quarterbacks in the NFL with multi year success....

Sam Bradford is just an example of bad management, not of success.
 

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I don't think he's a good fit for Meyer's system. I'm not saying he won't go there, but a different school would be better. Some of the Pac 12 schools may be a good option for him. I just hope he goes somewhere where I won't have to hear about him much.
 

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I don't think he's a good fit for Meyer's system. I'm not saying he won't go there, but a different school would be better. Some of the Pac 12 schools may be a good option for him. I just hope he goes somewhere where I won't have to hear about him much.

He's a terrible fit in Meyer's system. He's a John Brantley type (who can't run) and we saw how that went (Brantley in Meyer's system). Meyer's QBs need to be able to run, period.

Honestly, those who think Grier is a "top" QB must not have watched much of what he did at UF. Go look at the Missouri game, his last as a UF player, and it was horrible. He had a couple of decent games (Ole Miss) and the comeback vs. UT (because they went to the 2-minute offense). Otherwise, I was unimpressed and I'm not sure why anyone else was.
 

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The game hasn't changed enough for the 26-27-60 rule. It still shows a high percentage of being correct for 1st round success. The game hasn't changed enough that people like Cam Newton who didn't have 26 starts are the norm. Look at your top tier quarterbacks in the NFL, almost all if not all with consistent success fall under the 26-27-60 rule and most of the guys who have consistent success also fall under the Parcells rules.

Compare both group of criteria to the top tier quarterbacks in the NFL with multi year success....

Sam Bradford is just an example of bad management, not of success.
His agent and accountant calls it success. I didn't say Grier is going to win SB's but you are kidding yourself if you think he isn't going to get drafted because of some policy Bill Parcells spouted based on league practices from 2-3 decades ago.

The league is desperate for QB's with a pulse. One good year and Grier could be a first rounder and there would be zero concern for 26-27-60, zero. But whatever you want to believe. In this modern era there are more examples of Players being hurt, not helped by coming back or getting more games on their resumes.
 

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He's a terrible fit in Meyer's system. He's a John Brantley type (who can't run) and we saw how that went (Brantley in Meyer's system). Meyer's QBs need to be able to run, period.

Honestly, those who think Grier is a "top" QB must not have watched much of what he did at UF. Go look at the Missouri game, his last as a UF player, and it was horrible. He had a couple of decent games (Ole Miss) and the comeback vs. UT (because they went to the 2-minute offense). Otherwise, I was unimpressed and I'm not sure why anyone else was.
Can't run? I'd argue he was more elusive than Treon in avoiding the rush. But I agree with you that Meyer's system is not a good fit for him.
BTW: Brantley ran a 4.69 40 before the draft, same year Russell Wilson came out, who ran a 4.68 40. Difference being, Brantley cowered at the pressure, whereas Wilson (and Grier) see it and avoid it.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2012QB.php
Grier is listed on ESPN as having a 4.73 40 time, but that was in HS. He's probably quicker than that. He did have the top 20-yard shuttle time of any HS QB who was tested at the time, which would speak to his elusiveness.
 

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