Dabo would have been fired at Florida

Disagree, his 3rd full year was 10-4, 6-2 in his division. 10-3 and Conference Champion (beating #5 Va Tech in the Championship game) after the regular season.

I've said this before, though not as well....

The secret to Dabo's success ... a good bag man and Venables.

All depends on circumstances and starting point, in addition to how the team looked in those wins and losses. It was all but a given that McElwain was getting a 4th year until the death threats comment. And WM had a 6-6 opening season, and a 4-8 third and was still given a 4th year. But with both, the perception(right or wrong) was that UF was in major rebuild mode and would need time to get things corrected. Unlike Zook, who took over a much more stable program and simply unperformed, they were going to be afforded that extra time. The problem was that the direction of the program in all 3 cases was headed south and it was obvious to anyone watching, particularly with JM.

As was pointed out, in Dabo's 4th year, he clearly proved to be an upgrade from the former coach. And talent wise, he was making them elite as far back as 2011. So his trajectory was almost a 180 from the examples of UF coaches being fired in recent years.

There was success before he arrived and he made them worse. I agree, would have been fired in 2010.

Gatorchip said:

There was success before he arrived and he made them worse. I agree, would have been fired in 2010.

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So fired in his second year on a program that hadn't won a conference championship since 1991?

Tay Bang said:

Enough said. He would have been fired after year 2 1/2, especially playing in the A She She. Which in hindsight would have been a huge mistake.

Am I wrong?

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Yes, UF is in the habit of hiring and firing shytty coaches.

At Florida, he d still have ghetto facilities, little talent and be going 9-5 or so.



New football facility shows Clemson is serious about winning the arms race

CLEMSON- Notice has been served.

Clemson University has officially served notice to the rest of the college football world that the Tigers won’t be left behind. In fact, recent moves by the powers that be that govern the university have let the rest of the ACC – and the country – know that they are going to have a hard time keeping up.

We learned this week that Clemson isn’t shy about spending money on recruiting - according to figures compiled by USA TODAY, Clemson University spent $2.53 million on football recruiting expenses from 2009 to 2013. That is the 16th highest total among the 107 NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision teams from which USA TODAY received reports. Comparatively, South Carolina spent $1.32 million on recruiting through that same span.

We then heard this week that Clemson has taken its recruiting process to another level – creating what head coach Dabo Swinney calls “Clemson Google.”

Friday, the Clemson finance and facilities committee unanimously approved the concept for a state-of-the-art football operations center connected to the new indoor practice facility, which sits across Perimeter Road Memorial Stadium

In other words, Clemson is determined to compete in the arms race with the Jones – in this case programs like Alabama and Oregon.

The complex is set to include a locker room, meeting rooms, coaches’ offices along with strength and conditioning, sports medicine and a dining area. The new facility will sit beside the indoor practice facility and existing practice fields. The budget for the project is $62 million.

The university hopes to break ground in early 2016, with plans to open the center sometime in spring or summer 2017.

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Clemson, like Bammer, has an astonishingly laege number of football "coaches" doing quality, recruiting prep/scouting, etc.

Is it a surprise they are now battling Bammet,along with the other team with the giant staff and dedication to facilities, Ugly? It shouldnt be.

Last point of the article?

"Clemson and the rest of the ACC is already at a disadvantage when it comes to money – the lucrative SEC Network is a boon for the schools in that conference – and has to spend its money strategically and “get the most bang for the buck.” It’s all about staying ahead of the competition in the arms race.

Yeah......

UF us building a baseball facility.... maybe..... someday. If they can milk more money from alums (despite there already being 140 mil of "revenue" and 40 mil of "profit" per year).

The truth is at UF there is STILL no interest in being elite. Instead we try to be somewhat "competitive" as cheaply as possible.

Winning 9 games, 6 games, and 10 games in your first 3 seasons would not lead to dismissal. There is zero evidence to support that. Again, WM took the job 1 season removed from a 12-0 year and won 11 games in two of his first 3 seasons combined and wasn't sent packing.

I don't disagree there would've been some rumbling, just as there was there. But he'd have been given a 4th year and he won 11 games that season(after winning 10 the year before). He would not have been fired here.

TheDouglas78 said:

So fired in his second year on a program that hadn't won a conference championship since 1991?

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Figure this would be a no brainer for you. Gator Standard!!!

No doubt UF fires him. Plenty of recent examples on this site making it clear that UF doesn't want a ten win coach, and he wasn't even winning ten. I won't be surprised if we regress next year as the O-line is rebuilt. If so, there will be howls for cdm's scalp.

neteng said:

Figure this would be a no brainer for you. Gator Standard!!!

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Neteng, it's nice to see you are still misrepresenting... As I said with Mullen and McElwain they get three years. The 3rd year would have been a 10 win Conference Championship. Isn't the standard started with Conference Championships?

So Butters needed more time?

Not a chance in hell heda been fired. 10 wins with a fun offense? You're retarded, Tay. We've never fired a coach that didn't deserve it .

Tay Bang said:

How do you feel the presumed actions of the UF AD and President may differ from the collective opinion of the founders of Gator Chatter up to the end of the 2014 season. Again, this is the ACC we are talking about.

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Tay Bang, if you were here in 2014, you would have seen I called the week that Chump was fired. McElwain signed his own papers due to his mouth, but he was gone at the end of the season regardless at that point. McElwains deserved to be broken off in 2017 just like Champ deserved to be broken off in 2013. The direction in 2017 and 2013/14 were both down with both men's players being over 60% of the roster.

Gatorchip said:

There was success before he arrived and he made them worse. I agree, would have been fired in 2010.

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Clemson fired Tommy Bowden after a 10-3 season. Bastards!

Tay Bang said:

How about the opinion on even hiring Dabo in the first place?

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Personally not a fan of Dabo, but he is a damn good coach. But he wasn't even on our radar, so the point is moot.