Dabo would have been fired at Florida

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No doubt UF fires him. Plenty of recent examples on this site making it clear that UF doesn't want a ten win coach, and he wasn't even winning ten. I won't be surprised if we regress next year as the O-line is rebuilt. If so, there will be howls for cdm's scalp.
no one misses butters more than AR.

He still ashamed and says people in Mssippi mock him.
 

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Personally not a fan of Dabo, but he is a damn good coach. But he wasn't even on our radar, so the point is moot.

The point is moot on 95% of the posts around here, both in-season and especially off-season. Why is this different?
 

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Here is the issue and I have not looked at comments from anyone else so...it’s really easy to look at it in a vacuum and just compare wins and looses. McElwain’s issue was offenses ranked at the bottom. We weren’t getting better and the offense had no identity. We were fortunate that the east was awful for the 2 years we won the east. Attrocious offense and lack luster recruiting all contributed to his departure along with death threats. Muschamp was the same issue, just sh!t offenses and lost to Georgia Southern. They may have thrown the ball once that game. That alone should have gotten him canned. I would say, I seriously think that Clemson was ever that bad on offense. Whether it’s right or wrong Florida has been known for offense whether it was the Fun ‘N Gun under SOS or the S-O under Meyer. Zook, actually had pretty decent offenses but snatching defeat from the jaws of victory was his specialty. Needless to say this job is not for just anybody. When you look at Zook and Muschamp I think they have both proven they are who they are. Had we given them 10 years we’d be a 7-8 win team occasionally winning 10 or more games. The Clemson model is the exception not the rule. Just watch the clowns, they’ll try and get rid of Slick Willie in his 3rd year. He’s following the Muschamp trajectory. Fire or encourage OC to look for an opportunity elsewhere, hire a dud, rinse repeat. As I say at work, it is what it is.
 

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The point is moot on 95% of the posts around here, both in-season and especially off-season. Why is this different?

Said I'm personally not a fan. But he also wasn't a candidate on either of our three coaching searches since Meyer... so what are you looking for lil banger?
 

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No doubt UF fires him. Plenty of recent examples on this site making it clear that UF doesn't want a ten win coach, and he wasn't even winning ten. I won't be surprised if we regress next year as the O-line is rebuilt. If so, there will be howls for cdm's scalp.

This site doesn't dictate what an athletic department does. If it did, Mullen would've never been hired, and if he was, would've been dismissed the moment the reactions from here came in. If the title of the thread was "many here would've been critical of Dabo in his first 4 years" then so be it, and I'd agree. Welcome to sports message boards. But there are no real life examples of a UF head coach averaging over 8+ wins in their first 3 seasons, or ending their 3rd season with 10 wins and being fired. Not one.
 

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So fired in his second year on a program that hadn't won a conference championship since 1991?
2 1/2 years, yes I think so. In 2010, the 7 losses were the most they had since 1998. Those results showed a downgrade from where they were with their prior coach.

I know there were ‘reasons’ for Zook and McElwain going, but how much of that would have been tolerated if they were winners? Both Zook and McEwain had better records and were still fired in their third seasons. Florida keeping Muschamp around after his 4-8 was mind boggling to me.
I can’t speak for anything before 1989, but Florida’s recent history shows we don’t keep coaches around for very long unless they are winners.
 

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2 1/2 years, yes I think so. In 2010, the 7 losses were the most they had since 1998. Those results showed a downgrade from where they were with their prior coach.

I know there were ‘reasons’ for Zook and McElwain going, but how much of that would have been tolerated if they were winners? Both Zook and McEwain had better records and were still fired in their third seasons. Florida keeping Muschamp around after his 4-8 was mind boggling to me.
I can’t speak for anything before 1989, but Florida’s recent history shows we don’t keep coaches around for very long unless they are winners.

Third season dictates around 60% of the roster wouldn't have been his until that point. When you can see the true status of a coaches direction. They wouldn't have found it, until after his third recruiting cycle, which would have been the following NSD.
 

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Third season dictates around 60% of the roster wouldn't have been his until that point. When you can see the true status of a coaches direction. They wouldn't have found it, until after his third recruiting cycle, which would have been the following NSD.
I agree, but coaches don't always get a fair shake.
 

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2 1/2 years, yes I think so. In 2010, the 7 losses were the most they had since 1998. Those results showed a downgrade from where they were with their prior coach.

I know there were ‘reasons’ for Zook and McElwain going, but how much of that would have been tolerated if they were winners? Both Zook and McEwain had better records and were still fired in their third seasons. Florida keeping Muschamp around after his 4-8 was mind boggling to me.
I can’t speak for anything before 1989, but Florida’s recent history shows we don’t keep coaches around for very long unless they are winners.

They get 4 years unless there are embarrassing off-the-field moments to couple with a declining performance. Swinney had neither at Clemson. They were trending north and he was not a complete buffoon.
 

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Enough said. He would have been fired after year 2 1/2, especially playing in the A She She. Which in hindsight would have been a huge mistake.

Am I wrong?

You may or may not be wrong as to Dabo being fired in bizarro universe at UF, though I suspect you’re probably wrong.

As to the implication that UF, or more directly it’s fans (particularly on this board), have not given our coaches a fair chance, or caused them to be fired too soon:

You are 100% wrong. Absolutely none of Zook, chump or Mac deserved to be here a day longer than they were. They all got too much time here. Are you honestly suggesting they would have had Dabo like results despite watching the painfully obvious downward spiral? Just compare this year’s Michigan game to last year. This view that we had Dabo in the waiting and cut him loose too soon is borderline insane.

Similarly, until Mullen wins the conference, will people still doubt he can - of course. And progress from Mullen this year demonstrates just that- progress (and a lot of it). He hasn’t proven, though, he can win a championship of any kind as a head coach until he does. We all hope, even the biggest non-pumpers, that he shoves doubt in everyone’s faces and puts us at the top of the mountain but none of us know that yet.

Mullen will not be fired in 3 years regardless, because we will never fully suck like we did under chump or Mac.

Stupid analogy is stupid.
 

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When were their upgraded athletic facilities completed?
 

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Said I'm personally not a fan. But he also wasn't a candidate on either of our three coaching searches since Meyer... so what are you looking for lil banger?

Simple: forget Butters, Zook and Chimp. Would Dabo have either been fired in actuality from UF and would the message board universe have undergone a perpetual meltdown for the 7 years prior to a NC, calling for his head with every post?
 

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No doubt UF fires him. Plenty of recent examples on this site making it clear that UF doesn't want a ten win coach, and he wasn't even winning ten. I won't be surprised if we regress next year as the O-line is rebuilt. If so, there will be howls for cdm's scalp.
I think as long as no one leaks a picture of him in an intimate, tender moment with a six foot black tip, and as long as he doesn't conjure up make believe death threats, and as long as he doesn't run a legitimate future Heisman candidate out of town, and as long as he shows at least the small amount of enthusiasm that would be expected for holding a multi-million dollar a year, high-profile job with the fervor of an abundant fanbase behind you, Mullen's job should be safe. For now.
 

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