Truth Takes: Underrated Players in UF's Modern Era

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I've not written one of these in a while and we are in the dead period between recruiting and Spring practice so I figured I'd start a discussion. This topic popped up into my head when my wife's grandfather recently gave me a set of media guides dating from '99 to 2010 with a few omissions.

Before I get to it, I consider UF's modern era as 1990-present. I believe Spurrier's arrival changed the game for the University of Florida. Yes, we had some great years before like 1984 and 1985 and plenty of great players like Spurrier, Emmitt, Reaves, Alvarez, Wilbur, and more, but I consider that the growing period for Florida football. I know some people will find that controversial. It comes down to that SEC Championships became a measuring stick since 1990. Also, it shortens the list of potential players by a lot.

QB:
Chris Leak.
Probably the most controversial for underrated on this list. I know, he's UF's all-time leading passer and a National Championship QB. However, if I were to ask you to name the best QB's at UF since 1990 you would probably list Leak no better than 5th behind Wuerffel, Tebow, Grossman, and Matthews. That may even be fair. However, this was a guy who had 3 OC's in 4 years. The two consistent years were in an offense that did not fit his strengths (though '06 was modified to him). He was even overshadowed his senior year. Many people talk about the Tebow promise, which was epic, but Leak also made a promise for a national title at UF. The guy is one of my favorite guys we've had for what he persevered. He was frustrating at times, no question, but I think he may not get his due.

*Also, I'm not sure if Dean, Johnson, Brindise, Palmer, Berlin, Martin, Brantley, Brissett, Driskel, Murphy, Mornhinweg, Treon, Grier, Del Rio, Appleby, or Zaire (did I miss anyone who started in this time period?) would fit the bill as underrated.

RB:
Earnest Graham
Ok, this one was hard. When I think of why we didn't play for the Natty in '01 I think of 2 things, 9/11 and Darnell Dockett. Oddly enough, these two are tied to Earnest. Without 9/11 (I'm keeping this at arms length, not being glib) we play Tennessee in September. Tennessee would also be missing future NFL receivers due to injury. However, the bigger thing is we would have had Earnest Graham. As poor as our run defense was that game (and it was poor "af" as the kids would say), our offense would have been a lot more dynamic. Robert Gillespie was not on the same level. If you're not sure on why Graham was out, welcome to what helped push Spurrier out at UF, Darnell Dockett injured Graham the week before by wrenching his knee after a play. This was caught on video. If we had played LSU, who we had gone all Jameis on in Red Stick earlier that season, that week in the SEC Title game we still would have gone on to face a great Miami team. Could we have beaten them? Maybe, but we will never know because Earnest Graham was out. Instead Spurrier harpooned that Maryland whale of a coach on the way out.

FB:
Billy Latsko.
Dude did it all. How many of you had to look up who this was? My point.

WR1:
Jack Jackson.
I remember this guy being dynamic when I was a kid. Great receiving and good in the return game. We had many great receivers during his era and he was followed by the best receiving line up we ever had. Easy to be forgotten about.

WR2:
Taylor Jacobs.
Great receiver that we hardly hear about unless the discussion is UGA and screen passes. Played under Zook, which people would rather forget about.

TE:
Tate Casey.
This dude had some flashes in '04 as a freshman. The change to the spread option did hurt him. Most remember him for a single play where he fell over. He unfortunately was between Ben Troupe and Hernandez and played with CI. That's an easy way to be forgotten despite being solid, though unspectacular. Glad that he's back working at UF.

OL:
Anyone during the Muschamp era.
Seriously, how many of these guys had good years in the NFL? For F's sake, I watched Trent Brown at left tackle (pretty sure he was mostly right guard at UF) plow people throughout the NFL playoffs. Heck, where did NE run when going for the win in KC? Behind Trent who makes other linemen look small. He's not the only one who has done well, just a very recent example. Further evidence that the line wasn't as bad as we thought, the scheme was.

DE:
I honestly am not sure here. LOL. Probably not the right answer, but this is actually the last one I've looked at and there are not many I've seen. I'm sure I'll get tons.

DT:
Ed Chester.
I'm using Ed because he was such a great player whose career ended sadly at home against LSU. I still remember the length of that delay in the game.

LB:
Dustin Doe.
Ok, I'm sure we could put someone else here. This guy is eclipsed by Brandon Spikes in a way that Earl Everett was not by Brandon Siler. A big part of that 2008 defense.


CB:
Reggie Lewis.
This guy saved the Vandy game in 2005 and had a pick in the Natty after people were questioning whether he could keep up.

S:
Todd Johnson
I'm sure I could go lots of places here, but I can honestly say I rarely hear about this guy who had a decent career in the NFL. Remember when the Bears had 3 starters on defense from UF? Alex Brown, Ian Scott, and Todd Johnson. Anyways, he was solid at UF and had a great interception in the aforementioned 2001 FSU game. Safeties like Reggie Nelson, Lawrence Wright, Ahmad Black, and Donovan....I mean Matt Elam are rightly praised for their contributions in the modern era, but I think Johnson is overlooked. Just like the rest of the list, I'm not saying he is better than those more often remembered, but perhaps his contributions are underrated.

P:
I'm going to leave this blank because the punters have either been really good, a QB, or have been embarrassed by having Steve Spurrier teach Andrea Adelson to punt further than them in a single practice session.

K:
Judd Davis or Jeff Chandler.
I know, Truth, WHAT THE F***, these are currently possibly the two best kickers in UF history. Well, go on the Twitter machine and see the Gator fans who believe Eddy (I blew the LSU game like I was Collins Cooper in Knoxville '98, purposely ignoring Chandler in '99 against Bama) Pineiro is the Alpha and Omega of Florida kicking. Dude was good, but the amount of people who don't even know these names makes me very sad. With that said, I will take this time to repeat that I hope that Evan McPherson breaks Chandler's all-time scoring record by the time he's done. He's a good kid from what I've seen and I want our offense to get him on the field every drive.

Or Matt Piotrowicz. This was the baddest kicker we've ever had. Dude sought out contact on kickoffs. Multiple tackles against Maryland had me watching him for years to come.


Ok, I've written this in spurts and ran out of steam on defenders. I'm curious to hear who you guys feel is an underrated Gator. Where you think I am right and where I am wrong.

If nothing else, hopefully this brought people and memories back to your mind that bring you joy from memories of Gators football.

As always, Go Gators!
 

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Good read, but think you are way off in some areas. I will quickly say that agree on Todd Johnson. He was a very good safety that a lot of people have forgotten about. Disagree on Ed Chester. He is not UNDERrated. He is one of if not the best defensive tackle ever to play at UF. Terrible end to his career b/c he could have been a 1st round pick had he left after his junior year. My biggest disagreement is with Dustin Doe. IMO, he sucked. He was out of position almost as often as Daniel McMillian was when he played. The only difference was that Doe played around guys who could cover his mistakes.
 

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I put Leak ahead of Mathews but definitely underrated.

I like Jack Jackson. Maybe add Chad Jackson.

Maybe Terry Jackson.
 

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Kirk Kirpatrick. Highest number of receiving yards (770) in a season (1990) for a true tight end in Florida history. The guy was famous for drive saving receptions. Very underrated.
 

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I always thought Ben Troupe was a great TE that didn’t get enough praise. Good ambassador for the school too.

 

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Man I forgot about that kicker that used to go head hunting out there. I loved that guy.
 

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A few others:

QB: Terry Dean is rarely remember by anyone as the QB who:

1. Was MVP and led UF to its first Sugar Bowl win.
2. Was MVP and led UF's to its first SEC Championship game win.

There was a time that UF fans would have believed any QB who did things like that would be viewed as an all time great. Instead he is viewed as almost Wally Pip. It was not his fault that he played at the same time as the best passing QB in college football history. He was not able to keep his job, but I can not think of any other QB that could have under those circumstances.

RB: DeShawn Wynn was enough of an RB talent to be drafted. However it seemed to me and some of my friends almost like Urban Meyer hated RBs while he was at UF. Thus Wynn was under used and under appreciated. (BTW, I do think Emmitt Smith's career at UF is under appreciated too.)

WR: David Nelson was another guy Meyer seemed to ignore. As a result he caught more passes in one season in the NFL than he did in his UF career. I guess some of it was playing at the same time as Harvin, but Meyer did not have a large set of players he trusted.

TE: Erron Kinney though he was drafted, I view him as a guy under appreciated because of recruiting. As I remember it, no one knew he was visiting UF, no one really had heard of him as he played WR in high school and then he commits to UF when few knew who he was. He was good enough to be drafted after his UF career, but of course TEs were not always featured in the Spurrier offense and he was a complete surprise in recruiting that I suspect caused people to under appreciate him.

OL: Cooper Carlisle had a name similar to a place kicker and was not really viewed as the type of player who would go on to have a 12 year or so NFL career. Most people viewed his career at UF as good, but not a star career. (Of course if he is drafted any where near as high as some mock drafts have him, Jawaan Taylor maybe should be the pick at OL.)

DL: Brad Culpepper was not really viewed as a long term NFL player when he was playing at UF. He was viewed as a good defensive lineman, but not great (10th round pick) on Spurrier's first two teams.

LB: Andra Davis is my guess here. I think he was under rated at UF and a really solid contributor.

DB: Duke Dawson played with a lot of other really good DBs at UF and was maybe some what over looked until his senior year because of that.

K/P: Robby Stevenson is an easy pick for me here and really the reason I responded. He was arguably the MVP of the 1997 Sugar Bowl. UF lost in Tally that year in part because he had a punt blocked. Well he bounced back and was really important in that game when it was still in doubt. Early in the second half with UF leading 24-20 FSU sold out to block a punt and Stevenson flipped the field on them. UF held got a short field and scored and then kept scoring. That punt was probably the most important and most under appreciated play in UF football history. Stevenson was a cause of concern going into that game and he was a big plus for UF that night.
 
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Agree on troupe. Cornelius ingram was another TE that was underrated. The grad transfer from utah who played CB for us on the 06 title team, Ryan Smith, was a baller as well. Andre and Reche are a bit more known but didnt get near the fan fare because of guys like gaffney and harvin, but those guys were really really good receivers. Dallas Baker was no slouch either. Brandon Siler has always been one my favorite gator players and while he's known, i still think he is underrated. I really liked Gus Scott as well, dude was mean. I could probably keep going if I really sat down and thought about it.
 

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Great thread truth . Starting out at corner I’m going with Bennie Alexander . He was a solid player for several seasons with numerous big plays . Had he played for bozo Muschamp he may have led the team in scoring . He wasn’t as physically gifted as a Lito or Keiwan but had similar big play ability .

Think Durty pretty much nails it at LB . Hands down it’s Brandon Siler . Usually when bringing up our backers the names Spikes, Mike P and Johnny are brought up . Even Kearse to an extent . And while all those guys were studs I’m not sure any made more of an impact of a championship season that the run stuffing Siler in 06.


DL has to be Jermaine Cunningham . Hell he was underrated even on his own line with Dunlap getting most of the love despite CD usually come off the bench in 08. It was Cunningham who sealed the 08 SEC title with a big sack late in the 4th. I’ll get the the O in just a bit .
 

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Or Matt Piotrowicz. This was the baddest kicker we've ever had. Dude sought out contact on kickoffs. Multiple tackles against Maryland had me watching him for years to come.
Not sure he's really a kicker. I doubt he could even kick an extra point. I don't think they ever had him try.

I think of him as a linebacker. He put on that old school big square boot and would kick with his toe on kickoffs. What a beast he was on kickoffs, just blasting people.
 
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Gus Scott, Todd Johnson, Aaron Walker, Ian Scott, Shea Showers (liked his name as a kid), jack Jackson,

But the most underrated to me was Travis Mcgirff. He got some love, has a family of gators, but he was 5’8 and stuck on teams with Ike Hilliard, Reidel Anthony, Quezzie, Travis Taylor, Reche Caldwell (mcgriff was on the roster for 40 years), and the best of them all: Nafis Karim.

He was a nice guy when I met him in person and have always liked the little tyke
 

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QB: Terry Dean

I don't know if there is another way around this. Leak had his crystal trophy moment and all the magazine covers after the '06 ship, Jesse Palmer never really had a defining moment as Gator QB (except for the Gaffney/UT win).

But Dean put up some huge numbers that I believe we took for granted at the time, believing that it was more Spurrier than Dean. Dean is largely ignored like Betamax to Danny's VHS greatness. There were some hard feelings, and we certainly didn't like anybody showing any sort of bad vibes toward Spurrier, who was busy eradicating all the heartache from our past and changing our identity, so Dean was cast off forever.

RB: Ciatrick Fason

Elijah Williams is a close second here (13th all time, 6.4 ypc), but Fason spent his freshman season watching during Graham's last season, 2003 playing behind Wynn for the most part (although he caught the pass from Leak to beat Saban and LSU - which was sweet), and then exploded for a top ten all season in 2004 during his junior year. 5.7 ypg on that team, 6.0 overall.

I said recently that there was stunning lack of video available on Fason, likely because the team stunk that season, but I loved the way he ran, almost LeSean McCoy like in his herky-jerky style, but his 2004 season deserves remembrance and he could have been even more widely used in 2003 over Wynn and Ran Carthon.

WR: W(illie) Jackson

Tough here because Spurrier's teams always had well recognized WRs, but maybe some don't realize that Jackson was 6th in TDs, 9th in yards and 3rd in receptions all time for the Gators. I never think of W(illie) Jackson when I think of the top players from that early SOS era, but I should.

TE: Kirk Kirkpatrick

Those who were there in 1990 remember how clutch Kirkpatrick was for Shane that first season. It was Kirk's last year, much like Ernie Mills, but it was a glorious season, catching 55 passes, which LED the SEC that year - amazing!

Defense: Tim Paulk, Ed Robinson, Ben Hanks, Bam Hardmon

I loved Paulk that year, and Ed Robinson was a tackling beast, being the only "modern" Gator in the top ten in tackles for our school. Paulk exemplified the Booyah identity for that defense - I believe he was dumb enough to try and punch through glass with wire embedded in it and shredded his hand. Alas.

Hanks is here because he was the heart of the '95 Gators defense, including the fantastic interception of the pitch on 4th and short on our own 3 and ran it all the way for the score, making the Georgia Dome rock with Gator dominance.

Hardmon I forgot completely about in the disappointment of Spurrier leaving -- but he had a top ten all time tackling season in 2002 with 168.

Kicking: Caleb Sturgis

Listed here just be able to say "The Sturrrrrrrrrrrge" one more time here in my office.
 
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Jordan Sherit. One of the most underrated & perhaps under appreciated DE I can remember. Dude was disruptive against the pass and would hold the edge against the run. One of those guys that that wasn’t flashy but, refused to be overtaken by more ‘talented’ guys behind him. Tough as nails & a smart player.
Tragic leg & hip injury ended any chance for him play in the NFL.
 

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No love for returner Brandon James?

I don't think he was underrated at all -- he was the Devin Hester of the Gators -- awesome even not including the called back big returns (which gets larger in lore -- and fine by me)
 

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I don't think he was underrated at all -- he was the Devin Hester of the Gators -- awesome even not including the called back big returns (which gets larger in lore -- and fine by me)
I just rarely hear his name mentioned.
 

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