Gator Basketball Next year's recruiting class ready to bring Gator Hoops back

78 · Feb 17, 2019

t-gator said:
Rick Pitino lol. Obviously he's a hall of Famer but we wouldn't take on that baggage

I warned it was shocking, though at this point nothing really shocks me, Rick Pitino becoming the next UF basketball coach included. This obviously wouldn't go over well in Lexington.

t-gator · Feb 17, 2019

78 said:
I warned it was shocking, though at this point nothing really shocks me, Rick Pitino becoming the next UF basketball coach included. This obviously wouldn't go over well in Lexington.

Believe it or not , hes 6 years younger than coach K. Anyhow, I just don't see the uaa letting that happen. If we chose to part ways with white , Pitino would be badass though.

LagoonGator68 · Feb 17, 2019

t-gator said:
Believe it or not , hes 6 years younger than coach K. Anyhow, I just don't see the uaa letting that happen. If we chose to part ways with white , Pitino would be badass though.

What baggage?

t-gator · Feb 17, 2019

LagoonGator68 said:
What baggage?

The most recent baggage was he got fired because what was being dug up in the federal investigation. Before they got accused of getting players set up with hookers. I believe some madam came forward. And before that. Pitino himself had some kind of affair with a waitress that got kinda nasty and public. But outside of all that, not really much there.

78 · Feb 17, 2019

Exactly. He's a perfect fit for us.

Tay Bang · Feb 17, 2019

Double Gator Dad said:
Agreed and maybe he can land another strong class. My point is that many are assuming that three big time freshman will provide a guaranteed solution. I am not so sure, that is all I am saying

Three to four more great recruits per year. What more can you ask for as far as players? He just needs to coach them.

jaywalker72 · Feb 17, 2019

78 said:
I warned it was shocking, though at this point nothing really shocks me, Rick Pitino becoming the next UF basketball coach included. This obviously wouldn't go over well in Lexington.

He burnt his bridge with UK when he took the U of L job.

t-gator · Feb 17, 2019

jaywalker72 said:
He burnt his bridge with UK when he took the U of L job.

And when he gave the Kentucky crowd the middle finger a few years ago.

Tay Bang · Feb 18, 2019

Double Gator Dad said:
Agreed and maybe he can land another strong class. My point is that many are assuming that three big time freshman will provide a guaranteed solution. I am not so sure, that is all I am saying

I agree. A basketball program is built on year after year of solid recruiting and coaching. Hopefully the solid recruiting has started. It takes a few years. We aren't a blue blood program. Now we will see on the coaching. This is why I'm not ready to fire White after every loss, or even mid-game if we are behind in the score.

Turk182 · Feb 18, 2019

t-gator said:
The most recent baggage was he got fired because what was being dug up in the federal investigation. Before they got accused of getting players set up with hookers. I believe some madam came forward. And before that. Pitino himself had some kind of affair with a waitress that got kinda nasty and public. But outside of all that, not really much there.

Never convicted of anything..

GatorTom85 · Feb 18, 2019

Turk182 said:
Never convicted of anything..

Seriously?? His questionable approaches to nearly every process involved with being a coach in college sports has been the stuff of legend going all the way back to his days as an assistant coach in Hawaii!

Hiring Pitino at this point would would be like when UF hired Charley Pell for FB. Maybe we'd get some short term positive results if we made that hire but the long term negative consequences would be inevitable.

Hopefully we won't ever again be as desperate with any sport as we were with Football back when we made the Pell hire!

ChiefGator · Feb 18, 2019

Tay Bang said:
Three to four more great recruits per year. What more can you ask for as far as players? He just needs to coach them.

And somehow prevent them from getting multiple concussions, having knee problems that prevent them from playing, being overweight and out of shape after recovering from injury, and also get to play as he has instructed them. Not even Billy could correct all these things.

rogdochar · Feb 18, 2019

What UF needs to do is hire the right vibrant person to "coach up" the big-men inside aspect of our game. Just a speculative example = a young 6'10" youngish, active ex-pro player who can get on the court and shove & bump & forcefully position with these players. Take a player in Europe who's ready to come "home".

Really like to see some new thinking, out of the box =

Gator Alum Chris Richard is 8 years out of pro-ball, yet has been conducting youth camps continuously since then.
Alex Tyus, still playing in Israel, in European NBA. He's won several MVPs. Tyus could be lured back to UF.

No matter who White picks, his interview should consist of "on-court" action playing and teaching. If you can't "do it" you can't "teach it". Just like White can't teach or even tout the inside game. I'm sure White could hire Chris Richard to come in and give a week's training camp, since that's in his ongoing business model, along with motivational speaker. Experiment ! Gotta inculcate the imperative inside game payoff. Without that tournament pursuits are lies, fake.

Tay Bang · Feb 18, 2019

ChiefGator said:
And somehow prevent them from getting multiple concussions, having knee problems that prevent them from playing, being overweight and out of shape after recovering from injury, and also get to play as he has instructed them. Not even Billy could correct all these things.

Each game UF must jump out to a ten point lead and never look back.

Tay Bang · Feb 18, 2019

rogdochar said:
What UF needs to do is hire the right vibrant person to "coach up" the big-men inside aspect of our game. Just a speculative example = a young 6'10" youngish, active ex-pro player who can get on the court and shove & bump & forcefully position with these players. Take a player in Europe who's ready to come "home".

Really like to see some new thinking, out of the box =

Gator Alum Chris Richard is 8 years out of pro-ball, yet has been conducting youth camps continuously since then.
Alex Tyus, still playing in Israel, in European NBA. He's won several MVPs. Tyus could be lured back to UF.

No matter who White picks, his interview should consist of "on-court" action playing and teaching. If you can't "do it" you can't "teach it". Just like White can't teach or even tout the inside game. I'm sure White could hire Chris Richard to come in and give a week's training camp, since that's in his ongoing business model, along with motivational speaker. Experiment ! Gotta inculcate the imperative inside game payoff. Without that tournament pursuits are lies, fake.

Done. Ask and you shall receive: Al Pinkins.

rogdochar · Feb 18, 2019

Tay Bang said:
Done. Ask and you shall receive: Al Pinkins.

Are you assuming that I didn't know Al Pinkins was here and he's designated to develop our inside guys, actually in rebounding. He's 6'6" and 20 years from his playing days, so how much "banging" with them is he doing? No way has this team been drilling on taking it inside. UF is his 6th stop in 15 years.

We don't have to fire Pinkins, if you think he's valuable. But we need a younger coach that's 6"9" minimum to help him, ... to help our players. To bump with the players as demonstrating, as challenging the "bigs". Don't care about his resume elsewhere, he's failing at developing an inside game for us. Why? -- I hope we don't backslide into shooting fewer inside the arc shots.

Maybe I'm panicking. Maybe not. We'll just have to watch this team from here on to see if White has figured out "something" to to do.

Mainland_Buc_75 · Feb 21, 2019

I'm cutting White some slack. I remember teams Billy Donovan couldn't coach up. BD had 11-13 losses 5 out of his last 8 seasons at UF, including 3 years missing March Madness and a sub .500 his final year. It isn't like White inherited a blue blood basketball program and ruined it.

It's been a tough year with some key injuries. Yes, it sure looks like for most of this season, the team could not for the life of them close out a big game win after leading double digits. Maybe that's White's fault; maybe it's not. With two good road wins under the belt in the last week, perhaps our Gators are learning to play together and develop an identity. 30+ boards, 30+ pts in the paint against LSU on the road is winning game play that can be duplicated against any of the other top teams in the SEC going forward. Perhaps they are getting hot at the right time. We'll see.

White is doing a great job on the recruiting trail, an area that Billy hated in his later years and couldn't wait to leave behind when he went pro. So I'm for giving White the next year or two to see what kind of he meal he cooks up with the groceries he's bringing in. And who knows, we may even have some more to cheer about this year. It's not over yet.

g8tr72 · Feb 21, 2019

The belief that a coach cannot coach post players unless he had a post game himself is an idea that contradicts the success of numerous HOF coaches who never played a minute in the paint.

While experience is valuable and may garner the coach "cred" from the player, it is absolutely not a requirement to having a successful big man in the paint.

BillyD did pretty well with Noah, Al, and several others. Dean Smith and Coach K have coached a few as well.

rogdochar · Feb 21, 2019

I've not used White's having no experience as a post player define him as a flop at coaching that into his team. I've feared that White discounts the cruciality of reliance on inside the arc play - such that he neglects practicing that style, thinking we'd have to depend on 3s or lose?

White is our coach that I 'lamblasted' for neglecting balancing inside play 60% shots with arc 32% shots. Just like him yelling from the sidelines, I've been yelling at White from fan sidelines. Looks like White is allowing them to change to a more balanced attack. Different athletes are adding their talents and we've improved. So from here on, White gets credit for turning these Gators in the balanced direction. Bravo, push that strongly.

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