Chris Steele transfers to USC(!), now has "everything he ever wanted"

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Here's my take - looks bad, just does. Whether you think the additional defection of steele is him being a candyass or a response to being ignored when alerting the staff to legitimate personnel concerns from someone he was assigned to room with, it still looks bad. I don't know any more than what has been published publicly, but based on that information this would be my thought process if this happened to me as an 18 year old:

"I told the coaches this kid has some issues and I dont want to be around him. The response I got was, well we can try to move you to a different dorm but it will have to be a few months down the road. A few weeks later he assaults some girl (or possibly girls) in the apartment while I'm present. Info goes public and my name keeps getting brought up with the situation, rumors flying by crazies that I may have even been complicit in the act or looking for some tag team action. This pisses me off to no end. I told the damn staff that he had issues and I didnt want to be around him. They didnt do jack and now not only did what I fear happen, but my name is getting roped into it. Ya know what, f these guys. Im out."

Based on the facts we know so far, the above is a likely scenario, and if it is the correct one, Id be leaving as well. If you go to your coaches and alert them to a potentially serious issue, request to be removed from the situation, and they do nothing, then the concern becomes a reality and you get associated with it? I'd be livid with those individuals and sure as hell would never trust them again, so why would I stay on a team with a staff that I cant trust?

Include worse grammar and plenty use of the word “bruh” and you got it
 

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I agree we shouldn't be taking shots at Steele. That said, I think some of that sentiment is in response to the notion that Mullen should've done this or that to resolve the matter. I'm not sure that's completely accurate either. Until he knew the extent of the problem, his hands were probably tied and it looks like he at least set the wheels in motion to accommodate the roommate request. The picture being painted of a callous Dan Mullen refusing to hear his complaints about living with a rapist isn't exactly fair either.

From the ESPN article...

"A source told ESPN.com that Steele made Florida staff members aware of his complaints about Jones, dating to January, and that multiple complaints were made. What the specific complaints referenced is unknown, but Steele was requesting to be relocated from the dorm.

The Florida staff did not immediately move Steele, and didn't plan to move him until the summer, and when Steele's name was associated with the police reports from Jones' accusation, it exacerbated the concerns Steele had, according to a source."

That's a problem...someone wasn't listening.
 

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Fair enough. There are some posters that are taking it a little too far and not just calling him homesick. Not saying you and I shouldn't lump you in with THOSE people. IMHO, his trust in the staff was broken. That's hard to fix. You want to label that as homesick? It's your prerogative. I also agree we need to find out more info.

Hard to call out other posters for taking things a bit too far when you are making a humble opinion that his trust in the coaches was broken with nothing factual to base it on. So ... for someone who seems to want to lump people into piles you just kinda put yourself into that same pile of posters taking things too far. Putting people in to piles ... kinda sounds like you are handing out pitchforks.
 

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From the ESPN article...

"A source told ESPN.com that Steele made Florida staff members aware of his complaints about Jones, dating to January, and that multiple complaints were made. What the specific complaints referenced is unknown, but Steele was requesting to be relocated from the dorm.

The Florida staff did not immediately move Steele, and didn't plan to move him until the summer, and when Steele's name was associated with the police reports from Jones' accusation, it exacerbated the concerns Steele had, according to a source."

That's a problem...someone wasn't listening.

Getting the pitchforks handed out ...

You are using the rape allegations which happened in April to fuel the fire that CS complained about it back in January. If that happened ... then there are a whole lot of other problems to worry about instead of just losing CS. I really dont think that is the case and seems silly to suggest it.
 

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Hard to call out other posters for taking things a bit too far when you are making a humble opinion that his trust in the coaches was broken with nothing factual to base it on. So ... for someone who seems to want to lump people into piles you just kinda put yourself into that same pile of posters taking things too far. Putting people in to piles ... kinda sounds like you are handing out pitchforks.

I am giving my OPINION only. Hopefully, Mullen and his wife fixed the situation. I am not bashing the kid. I am not bashing Mullen. I do not have a pitchfork. I called for no one's job. You seem like you are trying to make my posts into something they are not.
 

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Getting the pitchforks handed out ...

You are using the rape allegations which happened in April to fuel the fire that CS complained about it back in January. If that happened ... then there are a whole lot of other problems to worry about instead of just losing CS. I really dont think that is the case and seems silly to suggest it.

Wow...you're delusional. I've had trouble with you before just starting random **** with me. I did NOTHING of what you claim. I'm sorry that you can't read very well...Steele complained not once but MULTIPLE times. We don't know why. WHat we do know is that his roommate is an alleged serial rapist. Once Steele's name started appearing in police reports that was the final straw. What don't you understand here. Are you saying that the staff didn't screw up? They did. I mean it is pretty obvious at this point.
 

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Wow...you're delusional. I've had trouble with you before just starting random **** with me. I did NOTHING of what you claim. I'm sorry that you can't read very well...Steele complained not once but MULTIPLE times. We don't know why. WHat we do know is that his roommate is an alleged serial rapist. Once Steele's name started appearing in police reports that was the final straw. What don't you understand here. Are you saying that the staff didn't screw up? They did. I mean it is pretty obvious at this point.


The devil is in the details.

We have heard that Steele asked multiple times to be moved to another room. We do not know if he said that JJ was a bad dude who assaults women, and that he didn't want to be anywhere near him, or if he just said they didn't get along well and that he wanted to move. That nuance makes all of the difference in whether the staff "screwed up" or not.

I think the label "serial rapist" on JJ is a bit sensational. There are reports that he raped two women. Since he didn't rape them both at the same time, I guess you COULD call it serial. But I don't think that is an accurate connotation/representation.
 

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I am giving my OPINION only. Hopefully, Mullen and his wife fixed the situation. I am not bashing the kid. I am not bashing Mullen. I do not have a pitchfork. I called for no one's job. You seem like you are trying to make my posts into something they are not.

You are saying that because CS has been complaining the CDM since January that his trust has been broken because of the rape allegations. I don't necessarily disagree with that and totally could understand that mindset because once you get to a point where enough is enough ... a lot of times nothing really can change your mind that it is over. My sticking point with your words ... and I am treading carefully because I know you and I seem to rub each other the wrong way based on past exchanges and I really am not wanting to pick a fight with you ... we have no factual basis to use to say why CS wanted to move rooms.

Here is what I don't know.

Can the coaches move players from the rooms they are in once the assignments have been made and the keys are signed for? Seriously ... if it was just a bunch of complaints about how big a dbag JJ really is, then what could the coaches really do in that situation other than tell him to wait until the next time dorms are reassigned? But ... if CS was making complaints about shady things that JJ was doing ... then give me a pitchfork. I am just not going to make that jump that you seem to easily make because it would kinda incriminate CS as well.

And by me stating that it sounds like CS is just wanting to use this situation to go home, I am not meaning to pass judgement on him or crucify him. I get it. When you have had enough ... you have had enough. Leaving California to go to Florida as an 18yr old can be a tough situation. When you gamble on a last second decision to go to UF over staying closer to home, if there is enough things that just make you second guess the decision then it isn't a hard decision to make when an opportunity arises to correct it. I would probably be homesick and go home to. That isn't me crucifying him ... its me trying to understand why he would leave since JJ has been removed from the situation. That is what I meant by it makes more sense that he is homesick and ready to just go home with a free do-over.
 

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If you have raised a 5-star athlete and you see a bright, hopefully, professional future ahead of him, and you also are aware of how the NFL immediately knocks down anybody even closely associated with any legal troubles, especially around women, then you can understand why Steele's parents and Chris himself want to distance himself, quickly, from this whole situation. It is also why, as others have mentioned here, there will be a significant negative selling fallout from this on the trail, with only a "take my word for it" to fall back on from Mullen and team.

Not saying Dan can't come back from this, but it is going to be even harder now, and things weren't flowing in wine and roses out there already.
 

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He was a total misfit and Mullinz was wise to flush him.

And he would have left anyway. He isnt even close to being an option QB. Being a capable scrambler is nothing like being an option QB.
And IMO, still preferable to JJ, who was just as limited in the passing game as Corral is as a runner - and an even bigger discipline problem. It's all moot now anyway, the damage is done, one way or the other..
 

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The devil is in the details.

We have heard that Steele asked multiple times to be moved to another room. We do not know if he said that JJ was a bad dude who assaults women, and that he didn't want to be anywhere near him, or if he just said they didn't get along well and that he wanted to move. That nuance makes all of the difference in whether the staff "screwed up" or not.

I think the label "serial rapist" on JJ is a bit sensational. There are reports that he raped two women. Since he didn't rape them both at the same time, I guess you COULD call it serial. But I don't think that is an accurate connotation/representation.

I look it it slightly different...your CROWN JEWEL from CALI is having issues with his roommate. I want the staff to make him feel at home as possible since he's from so far away. That's just logic to me. I;m not saying give him special privileges but make sure he's happy especially if there's any hint mom wants him home.
 

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Getting the pitchforks handed out ...

You are using the rape allegations which happened in April to fuel the fire that CS complained about it back in January. If that happened ... then there are a whole lot of other problems to worry about instead of just losing CS. I really dont think that is the case and seems silly to suggest it.

From people in a 247 thread, Steele came in behaving like a diva. He was constantly in coaches/support staff ears complaining about this, complaining about that. He was very high maintenance. So maybe the coaches tuned him out a little bit. You know like in the story about the boy that cried wolf?
 

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I get that and understood his initial post to mean that we were ditching a bad character guy in 2018 when we were willing to take one in '19. I don't think he was implying what you think or is confused on the respective players. Maybe I'm wrong.

Thanks for clarifying my intent better than I originally did.
 

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And IMO, still preferable to JJ, who was just as limited in the passing game as Corral is as a runner - and an even bigger discipline problem. It's all moot now anyway, the damage is done, one way or the other..

Still don't understand how that matters. Corral was not coming once we got EJ. If he was in JJ's class I would understand, but he was not...
 

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From people in a 247 thread, Steele came in behaving like a diva. He was constantly in coaches/support staff ears complaining about this, complaining about that. He was very high maintenance. So maybe the coaches tuned him out a little bit. You know like in the story about the boy that cried wolf?

That is a bunch of heresay on an college football message board.
 

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Is there any way that CDM can repair this and keep CS? Just because he has entered his name into the portal doesn’t mean he has to go right? If the problem was JJ and now he’s gone why not stay put?
 

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Alright, I really think some of you need to step away from the ledge a little bit and take a look at this from a healthy perspective. Obviously, the most troubling issue with all of this is that the staff didn't listen to Steele's complaints with enough concern to move him to another dorm. However, what we don't know is if the staff knew the extent of what exactly was happening with Jaylon Jones. Maybe Steele didn't go into detail about WHY he wanted to move. Regardless, **** like this happens and while it has had ripple affects in recruiting, the people saying this will set the program back a decade need to have their head examined.
 

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