Chris Steele transfers to USC(!), now has "everything he ever wanted"

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Has UF issued an official statement even condemning what J.Jones did? Or has UF stayed silent, ignoring the PR damage that this unfettered speculation can pose? Can anyone provide an official UF response?

It irritates that Jalon Jones issues only the announcement that he's entering the transfer portal, as if he's rejecting UF like some respectable transfer that happens all the time.

At Mullen's meeting in the Steele family living room, what did Mullen say? "We had no way of knowing JJ was a moral reprobate.".... then turn to Chris = "You had no way of knowing, huh Chris?"

Maybe it's too soon to condemn the PR sluggishness? IDK? But for most horrid events like this I want UF to condemn with rapid response. Wrongdoing occurs at most schools ... and it will occur again. Do some pre-thinking on the PR responses to not be caught off-guard, to not allow "suspicions" cast on the University.

It's questionable that the best outcome will be for Steele to stay a Gator, and become a star. (Although, you know, the TV announcers will repeatedly mention Steele's name being associated with a double rape.) ???



I'm sure you remember HIPPA.....The University is under similar student privacy restrictions.
 

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He flew to California to talk to Steele and his family. No one outside of that circle has any clue what that conversation consisted of. It may have been an apology, and it may have simply been trying to convince parents that their son was in good hands, despite this.

One thing is for sure. Had he not flown out there and at least tried, certain ones here would be roasting him for lack of effort. When he does, it’s automatically turned into a grovel fest from a guilty coach.

Again, there’s a definite CNN-esque narrative here. Durty and a few others have nailed his. The ones who want to give DM the benefit of the doubt are going to, and the ones that don’t aren’t. I don’t care what preface is used, that’s reality. Take away the subject line and it’s not a whole lot different than the post-Uk/Mizz/uga threads.

We’ve even managed to squeeze in an extra loss for 2018, which is impressive, and completely dismissed the 10 win season—in his first season and with misfits all over the place, including the what was unanimously consider our worst roster since the ‘70s—as all but meaningless.

Honestly, it’s embarrassing.
I’m with you... awfully early to start drawing conclusions...
 

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But Lagoon, name no names. Just express a condemnation of that type evil. Certainly, it can trigger an op-ed article, condemning person-trespassing and reminding of appropriate conduct that's expected.?? How did we get to the point supporting silence in the face of evil? Surely legal thinkers can use their smarts more smartly than silently ignoring such acts?
 

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There's more to this story than has been relayed through the media. Mullen didn't fly across the country unless he had something very significant to apologize for.

How deep did the basis for the apology go? The police reports are damning and Jones, although he dodged being charged with sexual battery, is preparing to leave the program. We have to assume Mullen was somehow connected to it and supported it.

Allow me to stick my neck out a little further. Why then didn't Mullen get a leg up on the mess and dismiss the kid rather than sit back in the weeds and allow himself to be framed as an enabler? Was he prevented from doing so for some legal reason? Was Mullen's lack of decisiveness here the most compelling of all the reasons behind Steele and his family being as upset as they were?

It's eerily quiet in Gatorland. We either have a case of a squeaky-clean kid having gone all prematurely snowflake or the football coach made a series of mistakes worthy of scrutiny from the highest levels at the university.
 

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I'm sure you remember HIPPA.....The University is under similar student privacy restrictions.
It's HIPAA, Goon. Please note that for your records.

What a shame that the airing of the police report got a leg up on medical privacy needs. We've got this whole thing bass ackward.
 

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Of course, once double-rapes were committed, it's too late to dodge the fact that da-da university recruited a man capable of this vile trespassing. But it is best for da-da university to issue some statements condemning, trashing the kind of person who would do this evil (twice). Just don't feign ignorance. Now, wasn't there a rapist on the loose? Will Jalon Jones move elsewhere with a clean slate? In his new location, do you think other females will be real safe with him? Will he be loath to crossing other criminal lines, harming others in other ways?
 

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Of course, once double-rapes were committed, it's too late to dodge the fact that da-da university recruited a man capable of this vile trespassing. But it is best for da-da university to issue some statements condemning, trashing the kind of person who would do this evil (twice). Just don't feign ignorance. Now, wasn't there a rapist on the loose? Will Jalon Jones move elsewhere with a clean slate? In his new location, do you think other females will be real safe with him? Will he be loath to crossing other criminal lines, harming others in other ways?
Alleged rapes, Rog. There's a difference. We cannot prosecute because HIPAA rules prevent us from knowing whether Jalon Jones actually ejaculated inside either woman he assaulted.

Until then, he's got a good arm and is a bonafide running threat, a great match for Mullen's offense. Maybe we can still persuade him to rethink his decision.
 

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We’ve even managed to squeeze in an extra loss for 2018, which is impressive, and completely dismissed the 10 win season—in his first season and with misfits all over the place, including the what was unanimously consider our worst roster since the ‘70s—as all but meaningless..
My bad on 4 loss vs 3. Yes, it was the equivalent of an 8-3 season in the days before the double helping of extra cupcakes.

No is dismissing anything. If we come out thumping teams 41-14 like we did to end the season, maybe we do FINALLY get some traction in recruiting.

Until then, recruiting like Butters will continue to produce Butters-like seasons. He has "10 win" seasons, too.
 

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Then we agree. I'm relieved.
Yeah, im free to call OJ a murderer, Hillary a obstructor/hard driver eraser, Trump a pussy grabber, Walmart a shytty plastic stuff peddler, Kia and Dodge crappy car makers, Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby and Rapeis Winston a rapist, other thing I decide after seeing enough evidence.

Presumption of innocence is a jury instruction.
 

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BTW, by what definition beyond lack of formal charge is either of these alleged acts, based on what we know, not the basis for Mullen kicking Jones' ass off the team?
 

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My bad on 4 loss vs 3. Yes, it was the equivalent of an 8-3 season in the days before the double helping of extra cupcakes.

No is dismissing anything. If we come out thumping teams 41-14 like we did to end the season, maybe we do FINALLY get some traction in recruiting.

Until then, recruiting like Butters will continue to produce Butters-like seasons. He has "10 win" seasons, too.

1) I’m not really debating that. Just pointing out that there tends to be a slant at times.

2) I think we had recruiting momentum. This messed it up, no question. I’m just not sure yet that we could’ve prevented it. And I’ll also continue to say I’ll take a great game day coach who can recruit, over a born recruiter who just happens to also be a head coach. You and I both know we had no business even being in that uga game last year, “and yet” we were. And you could argue that even with the no shows, that Michigan team that we blew out was hands down more talented. So while I hear you on the “if we keep” talk, that overall confidence certainly seems to fade quickly with some.

3) We’ve been recruiting pretty well overall. This is a step backward for sure, but doesn’t cement any legacies. You’re the first to complain about our facilities—and I’m with you—but that isn’t getting fixed overnight. If there’s even a hint that DM might be the guy for us, we need to stay fully on board with him to gradually get us back. Because even a quick hammer and change isn’t going to immediately rectify things. And there’s no way to truly compare our direction under DM to JM.

We all have “**** this****, ****** ******” syndrome. But we shouldn’t allow it to ruin what we may be building.
 

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My bad on 4 loss vs 3. Yes, it was the equivalent of an 8-3 season in the days before the double helping of extra cupcakes.

No is dismissing anything. If we come out thumping teams 41-14 like we did to end the season, maybe we do FINALLY get some traction in recruiting.

Until then, recruiting like Butters will continue to produce Butters-like seasons. He has "10 win" seasons, too.

Butters didn't get whipped in the Swamp 2 times in his first season.

Butters didn't come in 3rd place in our own division in his first season.

Butters also didn't lose to a team we haven't lost to in like 30 years or get stomped in our homecoming game in his first year.

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Butters didn't get whipped in the Swamp 2 times in his first season.

Butters didn't come in 3rd place in our own division in his first season.

Butters also didn't lose to a team we haven't lost to in like 30 years or get stomped in our homecoming game in his first year.

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