Chris Steele transfers to USC(!), now has "everything he ever wanted"

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In Mullen's defense, if Steele had stayed at UF and been a superstar, it would have helped open up UF to be viewed as a school that recruits nationally. That part certainly backfired.

I agree that the bulk of efforts needs to be to keep state of Florida and SE recruits from escaping the state/region. But it would not have done any harm to get on the radar of some national 5* recruits in the future as well.

One comes before the other.

They don’t have to be single threaded. If things had worked out with Steele, and began working out with recruiting Fla kids while enticing out of state 5*s to come to UF, Mullen would be called a genius.
 

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I would agree however Oregon has a very unique and different vibe to it than southern California. Oregon can feel like another planet at times. And just wait until the great Oregon weather takes effect...

Like fall practice in the 70s vs 90+?
 

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For all the griping about our blocking receivers it seemed like Meyer and mullen Put up more productive NFL receivers than Spurrier did.
So... Percy?

I mean, Darrell Jackson probably had more career yards than Percy, I suspect.

You guys are just surprised that 400 yard receivers under Creyer actually had NFL careers, I think. And many were just special teams guys in the NFL.
 

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You guys are just surprised that 400 yard receivers under Creyer actually had NFL careers.

Exactly this. Ike played 11 years with 6500 receiving yards. Jackson played 8, with more than 7,000 yards. Ike and Doering were disappointing but gaffney and reche Caldwell stats were similar to Nelson, Cooper, and Murphy. Percy was a bigger special teams impact when he even played in the nfl.

The best of all of these guys was some Meyer tight end who was a serial killer on the side.
 

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They don’t have to be single threaded. If things had worked out with Steele, and began working out with recruiting Fla kids while enticing out of state 5*s to come to UF, Mullen would be called a genius.
And yet, neither worked.

And recruits from Florida CONSTANTLY say they never even heard from Florida's recruiting staff, even some of our commits or former commits.
 
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Exactly this. Ike played 11 years with 6500 receiving yards. Jackson played 8, with more than 7,000 yards. Ike and Doering were disappointing but gaffney and reche Caldwell stats were similar to Nelson, Cooper, and Murphy. Percy was a bigger special teams impact when he even played in the nfl.
Yeah, Percy had 4000 yards receiving, less than Jabar and slightly more than W Jackson. Percy's total yardage, mostly that extra 4000 yards in kick off returns is where he stood out, but still was only slightly more productive than Darrell Jackson.


Jabar 5600 yards
T Taylor 4000 yards
W Jackson 3600 yards
Cooper 2400 yards
Murphy 2400 yards
Jacquez 2300 yards
Reidel 2000 yards.
Nelson 1500 yards

Im just not seeing the "Meyer's receivers did better" argument.

Who am I missing?
 
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You just like to argue with me. If he was truly homesick I think we can all...hell, most of us can agree he would be at USC or UCLA. Homesick doesn't take you 1000 miles away from..."home".

Nevermind.

Again, like it or not, there is a considerable difference between 900 miles and 2500 miles. That's reality. I spent most of my 20's back and forth from south Florida to NYC, never had an issue with the travel, and still feel very much at home in both places. The one time my wife and I flew to SanFran, not only did it have a completely foreign feel, the flight time also absolutely drained me.

I don't consider it being homesick per se. And I'm sure distance wasn't the only factor, but there is a difference.

And as I said a few nights ago, this is from one of our own players(Tabor) on his flipping from Arizona to UF.

"It really came down to distance from home," said the 6-foot-1, 186-pound Tabor. "I talked with my family after I made the decision to go to Arizona. We felt that it was a better decision to play closer to home."

DC to Tucson? 2268 miles.

DC to Gville? 774 miles.

Not debatable.

As for Mullen flying out there, what choice does he have. One of his top recruits is bailing and it's at least in part because of something that rattled him. Like I said before, if he doesn't make the attempt, he'd be getting roasted for that. If he was a commit and waffling the week before NSD, and Mullen flew out to settle nerves or relieve concerns, does that automatically make those concerns valid? What is he supposed to do?

The one part I'll agree with you on is that his parents likely got in his ear. For all we know, they may have been uncomfortable with the UF thing from the beginning. Once they had a window, they may very well have used it to seal this. And that's not really a knock on them, because I might do the same. But the fact remains there are a lot more credible signs pointing to this being about much more than the Jones incident than there are that one night changed his mind on UF.
 

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Again, like it or not, there is a considerable difference between 900 miles and 2500 miles. That's reality. I spent most of my 20's back and forth from south Florida to NYC, never had an issue with the travel, and still feel very much at home in both places. The one time my wife and I flew to SanFran, not only did it have a completely foreign feel, the flight time also absolutely drained me.

I don't consider it being homesick per se. And I'm sure distance wasn't the only factor, but there is a difference.

And as I said a few nights ago, this is from one of our own players(Tabor) on his flipping from Arizona to UF.

"It really came down to distance from home," said the 6-foot-1, 186-pound Tabor. "I talked with my family after I made the decision to go to Arizona. We felt that it was a better decision to play closer to home."

DC to Tucson? 2268 miles.

DC to Gville? 774 miles.

Not debatable.

As for Mullen flying out there, what choice does he have. One of his top recruits is bailing and it's at least in part because of something that rattled him. Like I said before, if he doesn't make the attempt, he'd be getting roasted for that. If he was a commit and waffling the week before NSD, and Mullen flew out to settle nerves or relieve concerns, does that automatically make those concerns valid? What is he supposed to do?

The one part I'll agree with you on is that his parents likely got in his ear. For all we know, they may have been uncomfortable with the UF thing from the beginning. Once they had a window, they may very well have used it to seal this. And that's not really a knock on them, because I might do the same. But the fact remains there are a lot more credible signs pointing to this being about much more than the Jones incident than there are that one night changed his mind on UF.
Absolutely...left coast vs right coast. I get it. I'm glad you dont think its homesick though. Home cooked meals from mom...doing laundry...etc. Home is home. Was a distance a factor...sure. No doubt.
 

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Y'all are comparing 10years to 5 and relative to their college career outputs Meyer's receivers more than held up against spurriers. While Darrel and ike were probably the best regarding longetivity there were way too many who did nothing or next to nothing given their numbers in college.

Jack Jackson
Kirk Kirkpatrick
Reidel Anthony
Quest
Richardson
Caldwell
Etc etc

In 5 years Meyer put guys in the NFL although some careers were shortened significantly. I believe the knock on spurriers receivers were that they weren't tough or particularly great route runners because they were in a scheme where they ran free so often. Wtvr. This is just entertainment for me. I enjoy the debate
 

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And if you ever lived in Oregon long enough you know there isn't much middle ground. You either Love the weather and culture or you Hate it.
 

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I'd rather have receivers put up spurriers recievers college numbers too but the game has changed. For all the griping about our blocking receivers it seemed like Meyer and mullen Put up more productive NFL receivers than Spurrier did. Maybe there is something to being a discipline physical receiver who blocks well in todays game
Spurrier put plenty of receivers in the nfl. Had more 1st and 2nd rounders than meyer for sure. The game hasn't changed. Teams are still throwing it around the yard and receivers are still putting up numbers. " The game has changed" is just another excuse that pumpers like yourself use to justify this low risk football that our administration seems to hell bent on playing.
 

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Y'all are comparing 10years to 5 and relative to their college career outputs Meyer's receivers more than held up against spurriers. While Darrel and ike were probably the best regarding longetivity there were way too many who did nothing or next to nothing given their numbers in college.

Jack Jackson
Kirk Kirkpatrick
Reidel Anthony
Quest
Richardson
Caldwell
Etc etc

In 5 years Meyer put guys in the NFL although some careers were shortened significantly. I believe the knock on spurriers receivers were that they weren't tough or particularly great route runners because they were in a scheme where they ran free so often. Wtvr. This is just entertainment for me. I enjoy the debate
Spurriers receivers flopped in the nfl because they weren't as explosive as his offense made them look in college. In short they were a product of the system.

P.s I'm sorry for being a dick in my previous post
 

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Spurrier put plenty of receivers in the nfl. Had more 1st and 2nd rounders than meyer for sure. The game hasn't changed. Teams are still throwing it around the yard and receivers are still putting up numbers. " The game has changed" is just another excuse that pumpers like yourself use to justify this low risk football that our administration seems to hell bent on playing.
I've never been more proud of my boy.

Every team that tries to pass on Bammer and has a decent OL, lights them up. Instead we try to bash them on the ground and run out the clock.

Hell, SOS beat Saban at the top of his game with Gamecuck talent.
 

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And if you ever lived in Oregon long enough you know there isn't much middle ground. You either Love the weather and culture or you Hate it.
And either way you get your car and other stuff stolen.
 

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Spurriers receivers flopped in the nfl because they weren't as explosive as his offense made them look in college. In short they were a product of the system.

P.s I'm sorry for being a dick in my previous post

I mean I'm far from a pumper. I'd spend eternity in the 90s under Spurrier if I could. Just saying Meyer/Mullen's receivers leave fundamentally sound like no others. The main bust was chad Jackson and it seemed like nothing would make him reach his potential. The other guys who made it to the NFL even for a few years were far from the Julio Jones, Megatron, Crabtree hype and physical abilities
 

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