Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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Swamp Donkey

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One on one tells you nothing about OL as a unit. 5 reps of one on one tell you nothing.
On most plays, DL is one on one. Very few DL get double teamed.

You should get a job as a scout. The nfl and college need good help.
 

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I am talking about Myles Murphy the DL out of NC not the LB. I don't think he is committed to anybody. Yes there is a limit, I think it's 56 but don't quote me on that.
My bad. I thought it was the 5* DE from here in Ga. who is committed to Clemson. I was thinking why in the heck would he be coming to G-ville three weeks after he committed somewhere else? Thanks for clarifying. (Who would have thought there would be two highly ranked DEs in the same cycle named Myles Murphy?)
 

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On most plays, DL is one on one. Very few DL get double teamed.

I remember one of the interesting dynamics about Brad Culpepper was that, while he wasn’t great in one-on-one drills, he knew how to make OL run into each other in live action. Dude was a smart DT.
 

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For entertainment purposes, 4 star safety from Louisiana Major burns is heavily favored to LSU, and has been pumping a commitment today. The entertainment here is from a bunch of gator commits or kids Florida is heavily on (and also some of the big gator fans on Twitter have all been reacting). I still think LSU but who the hell knows

Gervon:



Joshua Eaton who was just at Florida (burns responding to him)



Florida commit Jaquavion Fraziars asking what the move is, and burns responding “you know what it is”





The kid who befriends every gator recruit, was good friends with Steele

 

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Well it's more like it gives the guys doing the evaluations a chance to see them in person and competing against other highly ranked players.
Logically, that would mean that the original rating was wrong (and, perhaps, that the staff was right in pursuing him intensely). But that can't be right since rating services are brilliant and people that make their living coaching don't know talent when they see it.
 

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Of course AR. No player gets better or worse, bigger or stronger, or develops in HS.

Your logic is just as infallible as it always is. Not a smidgeon more or less infallible than usual.
 
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Of course AR. No player gets better or worse, bigger or stronger, or develops in HS.

Your logic is just as infallible as it always is. Not a smidgeon more or less infallible than usual.
Did you miss all your fellow astrologers who said that it was because the camps gave an up close look? The story changes when the illogic of the position is pointed out.
By the way, you suggest kids develop in HS. Hmmmm. I suppose it would be beyond the pale to think that kids might continue to develop in college and that those dumb old coaches might recruit lower ranked players based on potential for future development.
 

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that those dumb old coaches might recruit lower ranked players based on potential for future development.
Meyer, Saban, and now Dabo dont. They know that top talent wins championships.

I must admit your Butters Love has barely abated and your tenacious clinging to the fact that all those two and three stars Butters stole from FIU were the path to championships,I wont say admirably, but persistently.

Let me ask you, is your premise still that we can just grab all that garbage no one else wants bc Mullinz ragtag minimum wage staff is going to outcoach and outdevelop Saban?

Do you REALLY believe that in your probably solid skull? Or are you just bored bc it is the offseason?
 

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Meyer, Saban, and now Dabo dont. They know that top talent wins championships.

I must admit your Butters Love has barely abated and your tenacious clinging to the fact that all those two and three stars Butters stole from FIU were the path to championships,I wont say admirably, but persistently.

Let me ask you, is your premise still that we can just grab all that garbage no one else wants bc Mullinz ragtag minimum wage staff is going to outcoach and outdevelop Saban?

Do you REALLY believe that in your probably solid skull? Or are you just bored bc it is the offseason?

Ppl are still in denial and I was in that camp but I’m honestly worried at this point a better blue chip percentage on paper is great and will lead to a a good record but no upward momentum to anywhere we need to go
 

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Never underestimate the power of leadership and coaching. It is probably the MOST important factor in success of a team. There has to be a vision from the top and synergy flowing down to the lowest levels. With that said, it takes great leaders/coaches to lead and coach great players. The more talented the player, the harder it becomes to coach and lead. When you have players hitting a ceiling because coaches have hit their ceiling then you get teams like what zOoK had ... great one game then flat the next. You want coaches who can teach the basic stuff in one breath but can also teach the complex stuff in the next. If they can't, then it doesn't really matter how talented the players you get to sign ... they will always hit a ceiling because the coaches can't get them higher.

This whole argument about coaching vs blue chippers is binary and a bit ridiculous. Nothing in life is binary ... and I would offer a football team is no different. You need great coaching and bluechippers. With the nature of the East landscape, we have lucked out a bit in that UGA is the only real contender. UT is garbage as it appears Pruitt will not be getting anything special going there for a while. LSU is building again. FSU is a dumpster fire. Mullen has a bit of time to build and so far he has done a lot more good than bad ... gained ground on all our competition.

We need more bluechippers. But, I dont think we have hit a ceiling yet with the current roster. We need another great season trending upwards and we need to correct the DL. I think that is the key to keeping the trend upward.
 

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This whole argument about coaching vs blue chippers is binary and a bit ridiculous. Nothing in life is binary ... and I would offer a football team is no different. You need great coaching and bluechippers. .
Of course. Only a shttheat would think otherwise.

We do have a some of obtuse people here arguing just to argue.

And couple who perhaps truly believe we have have Three Star Whisperer 2.0 for real this time.
 

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Of course. Only a shttheat would think otherwise.

We do have a some of obtuse people here arguing just to argue.

And couple who perhaps truly believe we have have Three Star Whisperer 2.0 for real this time.

And we have some who think only thing that matters is stars. And we have some who think if you say stars matters then you are saying coaching doesn't. And if you say coaching matters then you are saying stars don't. Its a freaking mine field.
 

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And we have some who think only thing that matters is stars. And we have some who think if you say stars matters then you are saying coaching doesn't. And if you say coaching matters then you are saying stars don't. Its a freaking mine field.

Well, if we win we will recruit good but then we still have a bad recruiting staff. If we hire good recruiters we will recruit good but we still have bad facilities. If we build facilities we will recruit good but we still have to win. If we win we still have bad recruiters. So cornfusing.
 

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Well, if we win we will recruit good but then we still have a bad recruiting staff. If we hire good recruiters we will recruit good but we still have bad facilities. If we build facilities we will recruit good but we still have to win. If we win we still have bad recruiters. So cornfusing.

You are confused because you are using a bunch of IF-THEN statements. Dude ... that is as binary as it gets.
 

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Major indicator of his speed with pads and holding a ball. A kids 40 will not tell you how well he does when he has to weave his way on an inside hand off but it will tell you if he can turn the corner on a db or OLB. It also might tell you whether he will be caught from behind or take it to the house. Granted some kids's speed is affected more than others by putting on pads. I look at both a guys speed and whether he plays fast.I also look at his level of competition. Let's take Keyvone Lee for example. He's in 2A nominally so the level of competition is weak. But then he had, what 220 yds against IMG? I look at his OL. Is his OL stout or just a bunch of scrubs? In the case of Keyvone Lee he ran behind a very good line including Ethan White.
 

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The World Champions Clemson had the 6th ranked Talent composite after attrition last year and if you look at their previous 4 recruiting classes (2018, 2017, 2016, 2015), they ranked 7, 16, 11, and 9 in the nation. Hmmmm...they did not have the #1 classes 6 years in a row?

The recipe for me starts with the QB. You have to recruit elite QBs, WRs then DL. You can have serviceable OL and LB and you need decent but not elite DBs.
 
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