Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

LongTooth · Jun 10, 2019

Swamp Donkey said:
Wasnt he just on that list of people leaning our way someone just kentioned?

He was on 247 list of maybe’s but I never said it looked like he was leaning to us. No way. That’s why I wrote him in last. Nothing was settled this afternoon and now it is. No surprise.

MertzJay26 · Jun 10, 2019

It’s troubling for sure but more important than recruiting is development and play on the field. Once that starts slipping I’ll pick up a pitchfork along with you.

LongTooth · Jun 11, 2019

Jay26 said:
It’s troubling for sure but more important than recruiting is development and play on the field. Once that starts slipping I’ll pick up a pitchfork along with you.

Mullen and his guys are head and shoulders above MacInsane and his circus in that department, but if we keep losing talent to particularly UGA and they do their own share of developing players and improving on the field despite Kirby, we fall drastically behind in what becomes an unwinnable race that leaves us getting stomped by them and others for ten years.

I can see a scenario where Mullen owns FSU for years but never beats UGA and has 2 or 3 losses in the SEC year in and out. Won’t put up any banners that way.

Swamp Donkey · Jun 11, 2019

Jay26 said:
It’s troubling for sure but more important than recruiting is development and play on the field. Once that starts slipping I’ll pick up a pitchfork along with you.

Why a pitchfork? What is the point?

In two years, regardless of whether or not 2018 was Mullinz best year at UF as I expect, and even if there is some young elite coach out there, he isn't coming to UF. Why would he. Everyone in the industry knows what it's like to work for our AD's office and that they will handicap you in almost every way.

Are we going to land better than Mullinz, Butterteeth or Chimp next time? I seriously doubt it.

Vandy is the goal. That isn't overstated.

gatorkev85 · Jun 11, 2019

Gator By Marriage said:
As far as his averave goes, it's early still. If FSU looks anything like they did this past season, recruits will probably start to take notice. The reality is that for most of the current crop of recruits, FSU is/was a better brand than UF. Another season like FSU had last year and same for UF and that starts to change. We did not get in the mess we were in overnight, and it's not going to get fixed overnight. I know it's a negative cliche to say "be patient" (at least you won't hear me say "trust the coaches") but being patient is what I personally am doing.

So your basically saying the same thing that got said last year. Beat FSU and everything changes. Some people around coach football think FSU is more broken than we were yet like I've said Taggert is out recruiting Mullen right now and he looked way in over his head last year. And before someone points out we are above them in the ranking it's only because we have more committed. They have a better average than we do and right now are trending for more players in our own state. It makes no since to me.

SeabeeGator · Jun 11, 2019

The momentum around this year’s class is so bad. Last year it was easy to buy the “wait until NSD” thing but this year... rough. Dan needs to fix this quick or it’ll impact the program for the next 3 years.

Swamp Donkey · Jun 11, 2019

SeabeeGator said:
The momentum around this year’s class is so bad. Last year it was easy to buy the “wait until NSD” thing but this year... rough. Dan needs to fix this quick or it’ll impact the program for the next 3 years.

I applauded when we cleaned out the recruiting office. That shyt needed to go.

But what the hell is going on now? It has been months.

gatorplank · Jun 11, 2019

It looks like we will all have to accept Georgia, Bama, Clemson recruiting hegemony in the state of Florida for the foreseeable future.

Coming to Florida is like going to Burger King for them because they are having it their way.

LongTooth · Jun 11, 2019

Swamp Donkey said:
Why a pitchfork? What is the point?

In two years, regardless of whether or not 2018 was Mullinz best year at UF as I expect, and even if there is some young elite coach out there, he isn't coming to UF. Why would he. Everyone in the industry knows what it's like to work for our AD's office and that they will handicap you in almost every way.

Vandy is the goal. That isn't overstated.

Yep. Football is just way more “toxic masculinity” than these snowflakes are interested in dealing with.

Brainwashing kids to celebrate trannies and embrace the loss of national identity in favor of the new socialist utopia is much more important. Trust me.

UF very badly wants into the club alongside progressive loony bins like the schools in CA and NC. The degradation of our football program is a price they are more than willing to pay. Hence, the foot dragging on anything that might stimulate it once again, like facilities, filling out and expanding staff, scouting resources, etc.

If the offensive line comes together 2019 might surprise us, but things could tail off after that.

rogdochar · Jun 11, 2019

I remember years back many times we had to upset some teams since we were the underdogs.
Looks like lousy recruiting is liable to make us underdogs when we should have been expected to dominate.?
But the recruiting failures that many here see are certainly seen and felt by Mullen -- so what gives? He's got to know this ought to hurt his job security?

LongTooth · Jun 11, 2019

rogdochar said:
I remember years back many times we had to upset some teams since we were the underdogs.
Looks like lousy recruiting is liable to make us underdogs when we should have been expected to dominate.?
But the recruiting failures that many here see are certainly seen and felt by Mullen -- so what gives? He's got to know this ought to hurt his job security?

No doubt he does. And hiring/firing relative to some positions is definitely on him, but what is he supposed to do when he goes begging to the UAA for more money, staff, and resources and they give him the finger?

If I were him I’d go right around them a take it to the fanbase. Go to them and say “I want what all of us want but the guys with the dough don’t want to play ball.” The fans would rally to him but it doesn’t mean any money we donate would be well spent, and Dan could lose his job sooner rather than later for not being a good little soldier and going along with the state of the program which is still in thrall to Foley’s “no arms race” directive, an idea which is looking increasingly permanent and one our emeritus AD seems intent on assuring by NEVER LEAVING.

gatorplank · Jun 11, 2019

Carson Beck
Warren Brinson
Josh Braun
Demarcus Bowman
Chris Steele
Jalon Jones

...been a rough summer for the Gators. A bunch of L’s in a row. Mullen has got to get a grip and figure out why we keep losing these battles.

Gator By Marriage · Jun 11, 2019

gatorkev85 said:
So your basically saying the same thing that got said last year. Beat FSU and everything changes. Some people around coach football think FSU is more broken than we were yet like I've said Taggert is out recruiting Mullen right now and he looked way in over his head last year. And before someone points out we are above them in the ranking it's only because we have more committed. They have a better average than we do and right now are trending for more players in our own state. It makes no since to me.

That’s not what I meant. FSU looked like a disorganized mess last season and not just in the game against us. While I have no idea what Willie and company are telling recruits, my guess is they’re selling that the place was a mess they inherited and they’re changing the culture etc., etc. Another season like last year and I suspect some recruits will see through that spiel. A third one and even more will see he’s McElwain 2.0. Will this be enough to tip the balance in state to the good guys? No, but I believe it will be a big factor if CDM can continue to win. Either way we aren’t going to know for a couple of years.

LagoonGator68 · Jun 11, 2019

It’s turrible....

LagoonGator68 · Jun 11, 2019

gatorplank said:
It looks like we will all have to accept Georgia, Bama, Clemson recruiting hegemony in the state of Florida for the foreseeable future.

Coming to Florida is like going to Burger King for them because they are having it their way.

They all pay more monthly stipend for true cost of attendance than we do....that needs to be fixed pronto. Not say it would make up for shiity recruiting department.

leogator · Jun 11, 2019

LongTooth said:
I know first hand how good university admins are at supplying themselves with hefty raises and golden parachutes while letting so many other things go to seed.

Phucking parasites.

Dan and Scott need some very hard questions thrown at them on this issue at the quarterback club meetings.

Of course they’ll just talk in circles about it but jeez, they at least need to know we see their BS.

If it’s all staff gaps and gaffes no wonder Braun bailed.

Kirby might not be a good game day coach but UGA has put the full package of facilities, staff, scouting and recruiting in order and the whole product is selling itself the way Dan thought UF would. He needs to accelerate his learning curve or he’s going to hit his ceiling soon and begin to lose the support and patience of what remains of this school’s passionate fanbase. Now whether that matters to the admins who want us to be more like duke and less like Bama remains to be seen.

Competitive mediocrity might be their play and 21st century Gators might just settle for it.

Not me.

You realize that UAA is semi-independent of the school, right?

Swamp Donkey · Jun 11, 2019

LagoonGator68 said:
They all pay more monthly stipend for true cost of attendance than we do....that needs to be fixed pronto. Not say it would make up for shiity recruiting department.

we are half-assed Penny Pinchers in every single aspect.

Swamp Donkey · Jun 11, 2019

leogator said:
You realize that UAA is semi-independent of the school, right?

makes it easier to fire them

leogator · Jun 11, 2019

The problem with the UAA was that under Foley they would contribute money ($8-10M) to the academic side of the school instead of spending it to improve facilities. So now we have a crunch of outdated facilities that needed to be upgraded. The other major problem is that we no longer have the big, deep pocket alumni we used to have. We're having a hard time raising money for the standalone football facility. The third thing is that the University is indifferent to the football program. Their main emphasis is the research funds to the tune of $800M that flow to the university every year. Anything that interferes with that, like athletes embarrassing the university, Title IX cases, etc is frowned upon. They think of the athletic program and in particular the football program as an annoyance.

BMF · Jun 11, 2019

No worries fellas, we just landed a short, fat low 3-star OG a few days ago - you can go back a few pages and see @Alagator blowing his load in excitement for landing a 3 year project with an offer list of FIU, FAU, Louisville, Indiana, and UF who likely transfers out after not playing a single snap.....

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