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We scored 80 points combined vs Meatchiken and FSU with a team that struggled to score 8 combined under the previous douchebag coach.
Diwun Black WILL be attending UF....by his 30th birthday
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“Mentality” is inherently subjective - it’s not directly measurable - so we agree there.
Objectively, you could argue that a very similar roster using very similar contributors against a very similar schedule managed to significantly outperform the previous year in the one category that matters - wins. Something changed and it wasn’t the talent or infrastructure. The coaches changed, as did the systems. No real arguing that. You could argue that those two things somewhat measure “mentality”.
Which draws me back to my original post and why I made it. Leadership matters. It sets the “tone”, or “mentality”, if you will. I’ve seen it firsthand. The unit I’m with now failed a deployment certification event 2.5 years ago - putting it at risk of failing to deploy. Culture and morale were cited as the primary culprits - the officers and senior enlisted didn’t trust the command element and start going through the motions. Junior enlisted personnel followed suit. Unit limped through some remediation drills and barely qualified to deploy. A new command element came in and invigorated the junior officers and rebuilt trust with the senior enlisted. A unit with only 20% turnover not only passed all events 18 months later, we won the Battle E - awarded to the highest performing unit of its type. The junior enlisted talent pool or training hadn’t changed. The senior enlisted didn’t suddenly learn to be better leaders. The junior officers were still learning - an expectation for all first tour officers in an operational unit. The only difference was the leadership style and “culture” it created. We have a damn good shot at winning it again this year.
Don’t dismiss it as different - my guys are the same age range, come from similar backgrounds, and deal with similar problems to UF football players. In some instances, harder circumstances. Yet they fall prey to “culture”, “morale”, and distrust of leadership and it completely undermined their ability to perform. I saw that in the team under Mac. So I can’t measure it but I know what I saw - an unfocused unit going through the motions. That wasn’t the case this year.
Objectively, you could argue that a very similar roster using very similar contributors against a very similar schedule managed to significantly outperform the previous year in the one category that matters - wins. Something changed and it wasn’t the talent or infrastructure. The coaches changed, as did the systems. No real arguing that. You could argue that those two things somewhat measure “mentality”.
Which draws me back to my original post and why I made it. Leadership matters. It sets the “tone”, or “mentality”, if you will. I’ve seen it firsthand. The unit I’m with now failed a deployment certification event 2.5 years ago - putting it at risk of failing to deploy. Culture and morale were cited as the primary culprits - the officers and senior enlisted didn’t trust the command element and start going through the motions. Junior enlisted personnel followed suit. Unit limped through some remediation drills and barely qualified to deploy. A new command element came in and invigorated the junior officers and rebuilt trust with the senior enlisted. A unit with only 20% turnover not only passed all events 18 months later, we won the Battle E - awarded to the highest performing unit of its type. The junior enlisted talent pool or training hadn’t changed. The senior enlisted didn’t suddenly learn to be better leaders. The junior officers were still learning - an expectation for all first tour officers in an operational unit. The only difference was the leadership style and “culture” it created. We have a damn good shot at winning it again this year.
Don’t dismiss it as different - my guys are the same age range, come from similar backgrounds, and deal with similar problems to UF football players. In some instances, harder circumstances. Yet they fall prey to “culture”, “morale”, and distrust of leadership and it completely undermined their ability to perform. I saw that in the team under Mac. So I can’t measure it but I know what I saw - an unfocused unit going through the motions. That wasn’t the case this year.
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FSU is an interesting argument. They were more talented both times - significantly so in some positions. Coaches and systems changed. Went from being blown out to blowing out. Could be a fluke but I think it had to do with culture and focus. Don’t you remember one of our DBs reminding them to send out a WR?
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Im telling you that Butters could have lost to Taggelwain, and about 5 other games. And he certainly could have failed to score a TD again.
Fisher is a 3-5 loss coach without Rapeis He was only unbeatable to Butters.
And clearly Butters couldnt score against either Taggelwain or Booger.
Fisher is a 3-5 loss coach without Rapeis He was only unbeatable to Butters.
And clearly Butters couldnt score against either Taggelwain or Booger.
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I just inserted a “-“ in front of my responses to each paragraph. We’re good man. I think we just fundamentally disagree on the impact leadership can have and what that can do to an organization. From what I’ve seen, I think you believe much more in the individual.
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You evidently read more into my post than I meant. I didn't mean I could read the minds of the players, dork.
Your know-it-all arrogance usually doesn't bother me, but you look like a jerk on this one.
Your know-it-all arrogance usually doesn't bother me, but you look like a jerk on this one.
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He won't be attending YET.
Kids like him make me want to join the twitter verse just to tell him Gator fans are going to pull for him to CONTINUE to get it together. He wasn't going to start next year anyway. Get your grades straight, focus on you, and we will see you next spring hoping you are ready to kick ass and take names.
I don't see how anyone couldn't be behind this kid. I will take effort over ability almost everyday. That effort kid won't lay down in a close game because he is straight up dog. You have to kill those kinds of players to beat them. You never know if an ability kid is a dog or a poodle until he gets in that situation.
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My two cents on the seabee/ltraz squabble. Ltraz is conflating Seabee’s mentality statement with the “just want it more idea” as though Mullen made our players “want to win” more. I’d agree that is BS.
But, mentality involves a lot more, such as how channel that desire, is what to do in the off-season or weight room to direct it. When on the field, giving clear points of focus/keys of direction. Look at Saban’s “process” or Belichek’s minute attention to the current detail, opposed to the general idea of “wanting it more”. I’m a sense, they are anti-motivation guys from a “rah-rah” perspective but they absolutely get that point across to their teams to direct their focus where the coach wants it.
Compare it to Willlllllie. His players still lacked focus because clear direction on where and how to focus was not coached from the top down.
That, is a mentality issue, if not a change of the players “will to win” or other cliches that ltraz seems to be attacking.
But, mentality involves a lot more, such as how channel that desire, is what to do in the off-season or weight room to direct it. When on the field, giving clear points of focus/keys of direction. Look at Saban’s “process” or Belichek’s minute attention to the current detail, opposed to the general idea of “wanting it more”. I’m a sense, they are anti-motivation guys from a “rah-rah” perspective but they absolutely get that point across to their teams to direct their focus where the coach wants it.
Compare it to Willlllllie. His players still lacked focus because clear direction on where and how to focus was not coached from the top down.
That, is a mentality issue, if not a change of the players “will to win” or other cliches that ltraz seems to be attacking.
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Pause . . . Then just don’t.
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Did anyone ever figure out if he can play with us in 2020 or is it still the same with UF and you have to be a junior to transfer in from Junior college?
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Nothing has changed. This is a university rule.
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He probably would have been better off going to a prep school, which is basically more high school.
