Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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Now here's Chantz's highlights:


Now the OC for Ocala Vanguard has been going around the 247 forums saying that they did not have to game plan for him the two times they met Oakleaf last year.
 

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Dwight McGlothern a DB out of Cedar Hill, TX is showing some interest.
 
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If you increase stipends, you'd probably see UF drop like a rock in all of those best public university lists. Like everything else, they focus on a few key metrics. Shands literally has someone from Senior Management spending 20% of their time on monitoring their key metrics.
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Total bullshyt and not related at all. Have you seem the price of an apt Gainseville lately? We pay $3400, $340 a month for 10 months or less for 12 mos (and damn near every football player stays 12 months).

Clowntown pays $6000. So does Ga Southern, FIU, FAU, and plenty of others. And that STILL doesnt cover the cost of living. Could you live in Gainesville for 600 a month? Not if you chose to live in our dilalidated 1950s housing and wanted to have even a shytty car, some clothes that werent orange and blue workout attire, and maybe some money to take your girl out a couple of times a week.

We have the option to pay less than the cost of attendance and we choose to do so bc we are cheap mother fvkkers, and no other reason.

When I was going to UF in the mid 90s, UF provided black law students $15,000 per year in cost of living stipends. They can do whatever they want. It didnt affect the rest of the university in the slightest.

Other students could take about that amount in loans, even if they lived on campus. That was 90s dollars and living was much cheaper then.
 
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David Waters - Gators Breakdown (@GatorDave_SEC) tweeted at 6:08 AM on Tue, Jun 18, 2019:
He’s all UGA. Don’t buy the UGA-UF “battle” We all knew he was picking UGA before his UF visit this past weekend.
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If you increase stipends, you'd probably see UF drop like a rock in all of those best public university lists. Like everything else, they focus on a few key metrics. Shands literally has someone from Senior Management spending 20% of their time on monitoring their key metrics.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are consequences that the President of UF doesn't want. Plus these kids get plenty of money if they play their hands right.
Mebbe. But, nearly a century ago I remember my Dad saying that football players should be paid. They came from practice too tired to learn and lost out on a college education. I have seen a university strive to climb the ladder as a research university meeting the precise criteria that the Carnegie foundation promulgates, so I know what you are talking about. But what also matters is not whether the players have enough money, but whether they have as much as our riva players have.
 

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Mebbe. But, nearly a century ago I remember my Dad saying that football players should be paid. They came from practice too tired to learn and lost out on a college education. I have seen a university strive to climb the ladder as a research university meeting the precise criteria that the Carnegie foundation promulgates, so I know what you are talking about. But what also matters is not whether the players have enough money, but whether they have as much as our riva players have.
Remember that stipend is for all athletes, not just football players. But I agree with you, UF is trying to become a top tier research university. Winning one more game or two per season is not going to win them any more grants. What they do not want is for UF to be in the news for the wrong reasons. Other than that they could not give a shyte about the football program.
 

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Remember that stipend is for all athletes, not just football players. But I agree with you, UF is trying to become a top tier research university. Winning one more game or two per season is not going to win them any more grants. What they do not want is for UF to be in the news for the wrong reasons. Other than that they could not give a shyte about the football program.

True, but like AR said, the UAA is the one paying the stipend (not the University) so we should be paying what our rivals are paying - at a minimum nobody in the state should be paying more. And how the hell is it more expensive in Knoxville or Tuscaloosa? It's a joke. And it's another Foley/UAA issue. The University isn't telling the UAA what to pay (or are they?).
 

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True, but like AR said, the UAA is the one paying the stipend (not the University) so we should be paying what our rivals are paying - at a minimum nobody in the state should be paying more. And how the hell is it more expensive in Knoxville or Tuscaloosa? It's a joke. And it's another Foley/UAA issue. The University isn't telling the UAA what to pay (or are they?).
No the university is not telling them what to pay but the university sets the "full cost of attendance" figure that determines the stipend. The stipend is the difference between the full cost of attendance and the value of athletic scholarship. A traditional “full” athletic scholarship covers tuition, fees, room and board, and books. Universities also set a “full cost of attendance” price that estimates out-of-pocket expenses like travel, cell phone service and other incidentals. So either the university has to increase the full cost of attendance figure or the UAA hαs to lower its value of a full athletic scholarship.
 
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SID to the rescue!!!!!

The plan is to move to the ACC I see, which would work great for a team w no depth or elite talent.... except Clemson is already there now.

The Dabo lie forgets one thing, Clemson was top 3 in 5 stars, and went full Bammer to try to compete. Hell, Tommy Bowden was landing 5 stars feom Florida at a great rate, though not wuat Dabo is doing. they also forget the Clemson was a joke forever until they started dumping 200 million into their facilities and developed a staff arrival trailerbammers.

Such a lazy response but it tells you exactly where the admin is. No Problemville.

It tells you the pace wont quicken in the slightest. 4-5th in the SEC is fine w them.

And in the we are told to ifnore Mullinz 33-37 record at Cowbell bc he didntnhave talent to compete..... but now he doesnt need talent to compete.
 
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SID to the rescue!!!!!

The plan is to move to the ACC I see.

The Dabo lie forfets one thing, Clemson was top 3 in 5 stars, and went full Bammer to try to compete.

Such a lazy response but it tells you exactly where the admin is. No Problemville.
It’s an Alligator article. Should never be taken seriously.
 

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If you increase stipends, you'd probably see UF drop like a rock in all of those best public university lists. Like everything else, they focus on a few key metrics. Shands literally has someone from Senior Management spending 20% of their time on monitoring their key metrics.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are consequences that the President of UF doesn't want. Plus these kids get plenty of money if they play their hands right.
Just looked up our (UF's) research standing and found, among other things, that PETA has named us the top vegan university in the country!! Huzzah!
 

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If it makes anyone feel better, Clemson just landed a lower ranked 3-star TE (he was an FSU lean), Sage Ennis - from Tallahassee Lincoln HS. Ranked in the mid-500's. I suppose lower ranked TE's are common? He's their 4th 3-star in the class (one is Venables son, who has no business being a scholarship athlete at Clemson).
 

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No the university is not telling them what to pay but the university sets the "full cost of attendance" figure that determines the stipend. The stipend is the difference between the full cost of attendance and the value of athletic scholarship. A traditional “full” athletic scholarship covers tuition, fees, room and board, and books. Universities also set a “full cost of attendance” price that estimates out-of-pocket expenses like travel, cell phone service and other incidentals. So either the university has to increase the full cost of attendance figure or the UAA hαs to lower its value of a full athletic scholarship.
Based on what you are saying (and truth be told, I really had no idea how this whole thing worked), it does seem odd, that the full cost of attendance would vary much from university to university, particularly similar universities in the same state. For example, why is there a disparity between UF and FSU? Does one really have more incidental expenses in Tally than Gainesville? It would be interesting to look at the places where there are two schools in the same city, like Georgia Tech versus Georgia State, or UCLA versus USC. The only answer I can up with is the numbers are artificial and universities are setting them where ever they want/can get away with.
 

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Based on what you are saying (and truth be told, I really had no idea how this whole thing worked), it does seem odd, that the full cost of attendance would vary much from university to university, particularly similar universities in the same state. For example, why is there a disparity between UF and FSU? Does one really have more incidental expenses in Tally than Gainesville? It would be interesting to look at the places where there are two schools in the same city, like Georgia Tech versus Georgia State, or UCLA versus USC. The only answer I can up with is the numbers are artificial and universities are setting them where ever they want/can get away with.

I think the rankings of schools takes into account the cost to attend (and "value" is a category) - such as "Newsweek" or other Forbes rankings. I'd assume this is why they want to keep the cost of attendance as low as possible - so the ranking is as high as possible (this is just an assumption, but it seems our administration is obsessed w/ where UF ranks). I can tell you, living in the NE/mid-Atlantic, NOBODY cares where UF is ranked. I've said to people that I went to UF and they'll say, "Oh, the Seminoles?"
 
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