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Detroitgator said:

you bragging, arrogant, c*nt

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I'll change the thread title so it isn't all about me....
I guess I should mention that I DIDN'T do any of the work at the office. I did help to design it but all work was done by a local landscape contractor. It was also the last project they will ever do for me....6 weeks it took them AND they let the permit expire several month's later without closing it...

372 feet of PVC fence and due to the existing trees and 11 large Oaks that I've taken out on the property line(stumps and roots)it was the mother of all pain in the asses....It took a power auger attached to the front of a backhoe, a large stump grinder, metal rods driven with a jack hammer, axes, chainsaws and saws all's to get through the stumps and roots deep enough to get the post 40" into the ground. Each post hole was set 6ft apart and filled with 5 bags of concrete....it ended up taking 8 full days.

The fence starts at 6ft. ht. for the first 60 feet. Then gradually transitions to 7ft. ht. over 2 sections, then to 198 feet at 8ft. ht. then gradually tapers back to 7ft and 6ft over 2 sections and down to the seawall at 6ft.

Working against us was the fact trees were right in the straight line so we slightly bent her to fit between the trees and an existing chainlink fence less than 6" behind our fence.

Tight fit in some spots to say the least.

out the back of the cottage at 6ft.

crosscreekcooter said:

How wide is the utility easement along your entry road?

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This where things get dicey. My survey does not show an easement although it's obvious. The power pole brings the power down the driveway where it goes underground under the driveway and to 3 panels on the side of the main house. One of the panels then goes back under the driveway(on the fence side) and about 1 foot next to the driveway back to the cottage. Not sure if you can see another pole back by the cottage but it is no longer in service but still there.

As I mentioned the County park that abuts our property has a chain link fence that has been there for decades I assume. Our old wooden fence(2004) was literally right up against it. When we planned this we assumed that it was on the property line since the County put the chain link fence where it was. Well the new survey we had done last year after the seawall was built shows a very slight encroachment, maybe 6"-12" along the old wooden fence.

After going round and round with the fence company stopping construction for half a day we finally agreed to write them a Hold Harmless in regards to the exact placement of the fence.....in other words they will not be held responsible for having to remove the fence should it become an issue. I guess being County property spooked them.

As a Title Agency we see dozens and dozens of surveys that have slight fence encroachments and it's usually never a big deal. My wife said to put it back exactly where the old one was....so I told them to resume work.

I can't believe that since the Park has been there for longer than our property they would have an issue with a property line that they implied with their fence?
I guess worse case scenario we could take adverse possession of the 1 foot space since we have maintained it for 15 years, removed broken and dead trees, trimmed trees, and landscaped the area that they left outside their fence?

Finally after sitting on pins and needles for the last 2 weeks the fence passed inspection. The drama involved in this project made it hardly worth the effort....I don't hate all contractors....just 97% of them. These ass clowns just cost themselves somewhere between 50-100K in fences over the next few years including the new aluminum one and gate for the front of the house. Not to mention a lot of borrowers that we close at work pull out cash to do improvements and ask us for referrals....yeah they ain't getting one.

Now I just need to get 120 pieces of 8 and 10 foot rebar and concrete to put down into the fence post for added stability in the event for a cat 3 or higher Hurricane.....Anyone want to help me?....I pay well if you like frosty cold Bud Lights.....

crosscreekcooter said:

Are your fence posts hollow?

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Yep, all the post are buried 40" all set with 5 bags of concrete. I'm really more worried about the 8 foot sections because a fence that high is exposed to a helluva lot of wind force if a Hurricane sets in for a while.
Getting concrete into the top of the post to set the rebar will be a pain in the ass. What I may have to do is scoop the dry mix into the top using a 64oz bladder buster soft drink cup then just take the garden hose and put a little water in after. Interesting enough I heard some people say that you can just put dry concrete mix into the ground and it will pull enough moisture to make it set(harden)….not sure I trust that though.

crosscreekcooter said:

Sounds like you're concerned about the fence posts snapping.

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Worried more about them flexing 5, 6 and 7 feet above the ground which would allow the panels to come out of the groove and then I'd be picking up pieces for days trying to put it all back together.....the 2 pieces of rebar in opposing corners would keep the post from flexing enough to allow that to happen IMO.

crosscreekcooter said:

What size are the concrete footings? Sustained hurricane force winds directed at that plastic fence will blow standard residential systems apart. It's like a giant plastic sail. If the force didn't push it over (most likely), the connections will fail and the panels will fly away. You do know there are wind rated fencing systems available, right?.

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Most PVC fences are rated around 100-110mph wind resistance like this one. However I'm not sure about the 8 foot sections.....As I mentioned each post is set in 400# of concrete and the horizonal pieces have aluminum stiffeners.
One thing it has going for it is that the house and cottage would block the wind coming from the S, SW,SE a good bit although there is about an 80 or 90 foot section where they would not. That is all 8 foot sections. If it were coming from say N, NE or NW the park next to us has several small concrete buildings, large trees and playground equipment as well as chainlink fences with privacy screens on them to give a little protection.... During Matthew and Irma I had 4 or 5 panels of the old wooden fence which was close to 15 years old at the time blow over. Some of the wooden post broke and were rotten when that happened. Just wondering how this would hold up under the same scenario.