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Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals
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And your mind took it that way because?
2020 commits so far, Class is ranked 5th nationally:
Jeremiah Johnson, 4 star WR/TE
Gervon Dexter, 4 star DE
Jacquavious Fraziars, 3 star ATH
Leonard Manuel, 4 star WR
Rashad Torrence II, 4 star DB
Johnnie Brown, 4 star DE
Morven Joseph, 3 star DE
Avery Helm, 4 star DB
Jaheim Bell, 3 star ATH
Jonathan Odom, 3 star TE
Jonvens Janvier, 4 star OG
Gerald Mincey, 3 star OT
Lamar Goods, 4 star DT
Tre’vez Johnson, 3 star DB
Derek Wingo, 4 star LB
Fenley Graham, 3 star DB
Antuaun Powell, 4 star DE
This class is starting from a much better place.
Way too soon for this, but screw it. I need some!!!
Carry on.....
Did you forget to add Richardson back?
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️ (@tyceUF) tweeted at 10:55 PM on Sat, Jun 29, 2019:
richardson finished ahead of beck AND sims?
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️ (@tyceUF) tweeted at 10:55 PM on Sat, Jun 29, 2019:Carson Beck can suck it!
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And had 3 different release points with dreadful footwork. He also drew his plays up in the dirt. His words. Because of the poor coaching he got in high school, he was way behind the average QB. So, yes. AR is good bit ahead of what Franks was entering UF. Mechanically, Franks was a disaster.
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You were one of those nut UF fans climbing the fence at Mandarin HS and leading the angry mob of people burning his jersey, weren’t you?
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Well then that’s a problem. If AR is significantly ahead of Franks mechanically but only has about a third of his production in high school - And if AR has better high school coaching then Franks yet still has a third of his production, that does not bode well for AR’s future.
I was always under the assumption that AR was even rawer thank Franks. That Franks was the much batter passer - but that AR is waaaay more mobile in the pocket and throws much better when rolling out. Franks being much more accurate but needs an incredibly clean pocket. He is just not very good when he needs to improvise.
So AR is a much better fit for this offense.
From what I’ve read regarding the Elite 11, AR is as prone to throw a spectacular pass as he is to throw into the dirt. That tells me he has poor mechanics. Which can be taught.
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Well who?
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He is also working constantly. He has been working w a QB coach (same one as Beck and others) twice a week all this time.
More importantly he is the only one of those guys who fits our system.
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Says CJ Stroud (uncommitted), Haynes King (uncommitted), Bryce Young (Texas) and AR.
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Yeah he’s most certainly not far more polished. But Richardson has a carved out niche for his skill set and Franks was a fairly raw pro style qb. I think Richardson can be used as early as franks was and be more productive because of his overall skill set.
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Frank's was never a pro-style quarterback. I'm not sure why scouts do that but they seem to try to pigeonhole them into whatever system they're going to play.
We went through this last year when I posted the links to Franks in high school, remind people.who.could run before Butterteeth fvkked him up, said he would play better in a running based spread. The highlight video showed that he ran a lot then or he threw after running a lot. There isnt much straight drop back pocket passer stuff on film in high school either.
I still cringe when I see him trying to do something in the pocket. he just looks uncomfortable.
AR excelling at these camps is pretty good news because the camps are set up to highlight pro-style passing abilities not the abilities of running quarterbacks.
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Since the quality of HS competition varies so widely it is difficult to reach valid conclusions by comparing stats.
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Franks played in the smallest classification in HS. Much weaker competition. He was extremely raw coming out of HS.
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This is my takeaway. Franks was a better "thrower" (I refuse to use the word passer for either of them at that stage) but AR is a freak athlete. AR is not coming on campus day 1 being all-world, but I think his future is more Dax Prescott than Nick Fitzgerald.
It's a rare kid that is going to have the kind of athleticism that AR has and also be polished in the finer points of the position coming out of high school. I've coached youth football for some time and these kids learn how much better they are than other kids pretty early on. If something isn't there right away and they get pressured they figure out quick that they can just take off and few of their peers are going to be able to stop them in the open field. Coaches at my level that put the premium on winning rather than teaching often feed into it by making the offense simply "bomb or bolt". It doesn't take a whole lot of mechanics for an athletic kid to chuck a football a country mile down either sideline to a kid that is probably in man coverage with at most a single high safety. If the kid's high school coach doesn't put the work in early you end up with an athlete playing quarterback rather than an athletic QB.
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I'm hoping Richardson can keep it up and finish in the top 5. The top recruits need to see they have the right QB coming in with them. And he needs to finish ahead of Beck but, wouldn't doubt some 247 bias enters into the final rankings.
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Just me, but I thought AR was throwing better than before. I thought that the"over the top" throwing motion had probably been taught by the QB coach. Seemed to lapse into 3/4 sometimes on roll outs. Very happy to see him looking good.
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Mechanically, Franks lacks the ability to put touch on the ball at times. He's also wildly inconsistent with his footwork, which can lead to a lot of erratic throws. All things you can improve on. Under perfect conditions, Franks is most likely the greatest thrower of the football this university has ever seen. But of course football isn't played in ideal conditions. And he's struggled mightily in the mental department. "If" he figures it out mentally, you're looking at the guy vying with Lawrence for #1 Overall pick. I'm not predicting that, but it would happen if he improved.
My point... To say that Franks' mechanics are a disaster is extremely disingenuous. It's not perfect, but whose is? You put Franks in a QB camp against any QBs in college football, he'd probably look the best.
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