Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Miami

NVAGATOR86 · Aug 25, 2019

I like the comparison of Franks to Johnson. It seems to fit. Let's hope that this season does not confirm that analogy. Credit Mullen with the cajones to go for it on 4th down. When was the last time you saw a stat line that was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. Big gambles that paid off this time.

I wonder if we hired the self proclaimed "weird mind of football" high school coach Kelley, who never punts, to work as a consultant to Mullen? :dance:

T REX · Aug 25, 2019

cover2 said:
We've got problems' but at least they weren't compounded by a loss. The adage that a team improves the most between the first and second games could be severely tested. I hate sloppy, inconsistent play punctuated with moments of poor effort. Show us some players that want to be the guy who makes the plays and I'll be happy. Until then, I'll just have to be content that the Hurricanes are 0-1! **wink**

Go Gators!

As a newly self processed pumper...I feel great to be 1-0 and that victory to be over Miami. However, the old negator in me couldn't help but wonder if we didn't try to give that game away several times. Sloppy. Victory. Inconsistent. Victory. Turnovers. Victory. Franks. Victory.

I'll enjoy it for another day or two...

InstiGATOR1 · Aug 25, 2019

NVAGATOR86 said:
I like the comparison of Franks to Johnson. It seems to fit. Let's hope that this season does not confirm that analogy. Credit Mullen with the cajones to go for it on 4th down. When was the last time you saw a stat line that was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. Big gambles that paid off this time.

1. I dislike the comparision of Franks to Johnson but alas it might be apt.

2. The 4 for 4 on fourth down is amazing particularly against Miami's front.

Zambo · Aug 25, 2019

I guess I just hate the fact that our fortunes right now pretty much rise and fall on the performance of a kid whose brain seems to be all over the map. I feel like we are a QB away from having a great team. We are loaded at playmaker...imagine if we could consistently get them the ball? Heck, just imagine if we didn't GIVE the other team the ball on a routine basis?

InstiGATOR1 · Aug 25, 2019

Zambo said:
I guess I just hate the fact that our fortunes right now pretty much rise and fall on the performance of a kid whose brain seems to be all over the map. I feel like we are a QB away from having a great team. We are loaded at playmaker...imagine if we could consistently get them the ball? Heck, just imagine if we didn't GIVE the other team the ball on a routine basis?

Exactly but alas we knew this in our hearts the entire off season. We just wanted to think the light might have turned on for Franks despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

YLGator · Aug 25, 2019

NVAGATOR86 said:
I like the comparison of Franks to Johnson. It seems to fit. Let's hope that this season does not confirm that analogy. Credit Mullen with the cajones to go for it on 4th down. When was the last time you saw a stat line that was 4 for 4 on 4th down conversions. Big gambles that paid off this time.

I wonder if we hired the self proclaimed "weird mind of football" high school coach Kelley, who never punts, to work as a consultant to Mullen?

I'd be ecstatic if Franks played half as good as Doug Johnson. No way Franks would ever see the field on a Spurrier coached team.

EyeDocGator · Aug 25, 2019

EJ has great potential, but like the Miami QB Williams, is not quite ready for prime time. Franks has regressed and will end up blowing 3 or 4 games. Mullen should have pulled Franks and we would have avoided the two fourth-quarter interceptions. Trask has a great arm and knows the playbook cold. He lacks game experience. I would prefer starting Trask and using EJ liberally. We'll probably end up with the same 3 or 4 losses, but we'll have 1 or 2 high quality experienced QBs for next year.

YLGator · Aug 25, 2019

EyeDocGator said:
EJ has great potential, but like the Miami QB Williams, is not quite ready for prime time. Franks has regressed and will end up blowing 3 or 4 games. Mullen should have pulled Franks and we would have avoided the two fourth-quarter interceptions. Trask has a great arm and knows the playbook cold. He lacks game experience. I would prefer starting Trask and using EJ liberally. We'll probably end up with the same 3 or 4 losses, but we'll have 1 or 2 high quality experienced QBs for next year.

Sounds like a good plan to me. Gotta do something different. Last night revealed to the world that Franks isn't the answer.

SeabeeGator · Aug 25, 2019

5-Star Finger said:
I can't find the right angle, but that call was one to go for the throat and it was there. Our QB just missed it. It was a fake screen designed to spring our guy down the sidelines if the safety on that side got his eyes fixed on the screen. Even if he doesn't, it puts their weakness on an island against our strength. This is a play call to put the game away. The ball is supposed to go to the guy streaking in the top left. During the live broadcast there was a skycam angle that showed the safety did indeed come down and our receiver was running free at the moment he threw that duck.

I know the pocket collapses not long after this but if that guy streaking was the play, the OL did its job. If franks throws now and he’s open like you say, game over. Mullen’s biggest mistake was trusting Franks not to screw up.

GatorFL · Aug 25, 2019

I can't add a lot. We had fun tailgating and going to the game. One thing I can say, the ref crew was terrible. Probably one of the worst I've seen. They threw flags that shouldn't have been thrown while missing other blatant calls. Having said all that, the Gators committed a number of legitimate stupid penalties allowing Miami to stay in the game.

Mullen has a lot of work to do and dialing back stupid penalties is a good place to start.

Franks is terrible. He's got all the tools but not the brain, and the cerebral part of the QB game is what separates a winner from everything else. That pick late in the 4th when he should have been killing the clock with a run was terrible. I wonder what Spurrier was thinking, the video was priceless. I bet money it wouldn't pass the profanity filter here. We live and die with Franks and after seeing last night I think our over/under is 9 games. It looked like he was on the field after the late pick and the trainers came out to help him up. I didn't wish he was hurt but I was ready to see EJ.

SeabeeGator · Aug 25, 2019

NVAGATOR86 said:
Cover, as usual excellent synopsis . For me it was pretty much what I expected. First game against a good opponent with a lot of bad blood between us. Turnovers cost us 10-14 points and almost the game. The last 4 minutes seemed like 4 hours with penalties and Miami doing it's best to give us the ball back. Did they set a single game record for recovering their own fumbles? Not sure if our pass rush is as dominant as it looked or did we take advantage of Miami's weakness? In either case we will know soon and my opinion is that we won't have this type of success against the SEC big boys. But give the coaches credit for attacking the weakness. Some times that doesn't happen. Tackling was terrible especially on the long TD run.
That is coachable and can be corrected. The offense has a lot of work to do. Our play calling again looks predictable, and we don't seem to use our weapons. What happened to Toney?

Bottom line for me. Playing Miami in "week zero" was a big risk but it will benefit us more than some FCS opponent in week 1. Unlike the NFL we don't get a pre season , so the ugliness gets exposed in the first game. We saw it last night and now the coaches get to earn their paychecks for the rest of the season. Against Miami style points are not important. Just beating their ass is the goal. Playing them it is never easy, and being 1-0 is mission accomplished.

Miami took Toney and anything coming out of the back field away as well as Franks rolling right. It was just great playcalling by them.

Fumble recovery is pure luck. Miami got both of ours. I can’t remember how many times they dropped the ball but they got all of theirs. Miami got literally everything they needed to pull the upset but didn’t. Florida is the better team.

Scott512 · Aug 25, 2019

gatormandan said:
We haven't taught our players to tackle yet? Kinda late now isn't it?

Lol! True though. Sad but true.

If you can't track by the time you're 18 or 19 years old then the team you're on is in trouble. :gah:

SeabeeGator · Aug 25, 2019

LongTooth said:
Franks is like a latter day Doug Johnson with a bigger mouth and a smaller brain. His antics on the sideline and with the cameras were a joke.

Seems we didn’t go downfield much because Mullen was worried Franks would get pressure and throw up lame duck interceptions, which is exactly what happened in the fourth quarter - so why make that call?

52 yds rushing. Woof. I do think OL will gel though. They could have looked a lot worse for their first game.

Front seven looks pretty good on D apart from a couple breakdowns but I see little to no improvement from the safeties. Atrocious back there.

Townsend and Mullen have balls of brass to run that fake. Mullen wasn’t anywhere close to perfect, but was willing to take enough risks to win.

I thought Franks regressed in a lot of ways but one not being discussed is his lack of rushing. The offense clicked last year when he became more willing to run. He hardly ever just tucked it and went unless it was a designed play. I’m going to rewatch but I seriously doubt they spied him that effectively.

Gator By Marriage · Aug 25, 2019

5-Star Finger said:
I can't find the right angle, but that call was one to go for the throat and it was there. Our QB just missed it. It was a fake screen designed to spring our guy down the sidelines if the safety on that side got his eyes fixed on the screen. Even if he doesn't, it puts their weakness on an island against our strength. This is a play call to put the game away. The ball is supposed to go to the guy streaking in the top left. During the live broadcast there was a skycam angle that showed the safety did indeed come down and our receiver was running free at the moment he threw that duck.

Not having the best camera angle makes it tough to know if FF made a bad decision or not (as opposed to a bad throw, which is without a doubt). Does this play allow for a check down to the receiver in the flat? If so, then I think it’s valid to criticize his decision making as well. Grimes(?) is open and, assuming the other receivers maintain their blocks, it could have been a positive play at a point where it’s a couple of first downs and game over. This sort of decision making, particularly at such a critical moment, certainly bolsters the argument that FF still doesn’t “get it” and probably never will.

Gator By Marriage · Aug 25, 2019

Great analysis and interesting read as always @cover2 . With regards to Townsend’s fake, it look to me that scUM was spooked a bit by that and several times later in the game was in a standard defensive set as opposed to a punt block/return formation. As a result, Townsend seemed to be taking his time to kick the ball. I haven’t watched a replay but wonder if that extra time was a factor in Jefferson being in the right position to recover the muffed punt.

BruceWayne · Aug 25, 2019

SeabeeGator said:
Miami took Toney and anything coming out of the back field away as well as Franks rolling right. It was just great playcalling by them.

Fumble recovery is pure luck. Miami got both of ours. I can’t remember how many times they dropped the ball but they got all of theirs. Miami got literally everything they needed to pull the upset but didn’t. Florida is the better team.

We dropped it twice and they dropped it twice and all four went to them. Even though one was ours TWICE. Davis was definitely down with the ball. He doesn't lose possession just because he got hit AFTER being down with possession of the ball. I thought the same about Buchanan's recovery but he didn't have it quite as clearly.

BruceWayne · Aug 25, 2019

I'm tempted to make this my new Avatar. Spurrier is my favorite Gator/Gator fan of all time. Could you imagine sitting with him during a game? If I had a Make-a-Wish it would be to watch a Florida v Georgia game with him.

gatormandan · Aug 25, 2019

BruceWayne said:
I'm tempted to make this my new Avatar. Spurrier is my favorite Gator/Gator fan of all time. Could you imagine sitting with him during a game? If I had a Make-a-Wish it would be to watch a Florida v Georgia game with him.

That's already been done.

BruceWayne · Aug 25, 2019

I stand corrected. Miami fumbled 3 times. So it was 5 total fumbles and we recovered zero. Embarrassing.

BruceWayne · Aug 25, 2019

gatormandan said:
That's already been done.

I figured it had been done. It's a picture that'll go down in Gator history. It'll come up anytime some dumb **** happens.

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