I feel sorry for women.....

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There is an industry in this country that plays on the fears of their target audience more so than
anything I have ever seen. For ever we have valued women for the looks. Women do the same but
usually look also for financial security/stability among other things. This industry I mentioned sells women
on the notion they can be 1. more beautiful and 2. keep from aging.

I know this because my wife buys ANYTHING that claims to defy aging. Keep skin soft and young and
about every known cosmetic known to Madison Ave. My grandmother used Oil of Olay. I remember it in her bathroom. Men become distinguished as the age. Women become old. The media and Madison Ave. perpetuate this by endorsing youth as the epitome of society in terms of how we should look. Every woman's magazine is almost complicit to a fault with this shtt.........I can see a letter to the paper coming soon.
 

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Serious question Coach, and this isn’t me taking a jab at you: for your second wife, why did you marry someone so much younger than you instead of someone your own age?

I’m not judging you, I’d likely do the same. It’s what 99.99% of all male animals do in nature, but that’s the answer to why: because as females age, and can’t bear children, males in the animal kingdom leave them for younger women... it’s why rouge and red lipstick happened.
 
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Stop the presses, coach has discovered women don't like being ugly and men don't like being with ugly women. :lol:
 

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There is an industry in this country that plays on the fears of their target audience more so than
anything I have ever seen. For ever we have valued women for the looks. Women do the same but
usually look also for financial security/stability among other things. This industry I mentioned sells women
on the notion they can be 1. more beautiful and 2. keep from aging.

I know this because my wife buys ANYTHING that claims to defy aging. Keep skin soft and young and
about every known cosmetic known to Madison Ave. My grandmother used Oil of Olay. I remember it in her bathroom. Men become distinguished as the age. Women become old. The media and Madison Ave. perpetuate this by endorsing youth as the epitome of society in terms of how we should look. Every woman's magazine is almost complicit to a fault with this shtt.........I can see a letter to the paper coming soon.

Do you really think mass advertising has brainwashed women into thinking they want to look younger...or maybe women naturally want to look younger and mass advertising merely pushes this cream over that cream?

It's fundamental Coach. A man's power can come from various sources. He might be young and virile (and the kind of guy girls like to have affairs with). He may be old and rich. He may be a stable provider. Women strongly prefer to marry men who make more than they do.

A woman's power isn't so diffuse. It tends to be based on youth and attractiveness. That's why women want to look youthful and attractive. It's empowering.

My wife is beautiful. She had beautiful privilege and never knew it. Oh, she knew she could talk her way out of a ticket or get somebody to help her move but she never really understood it. Until she got pregnant. She came back from the grocery store all mopey one day. She finally realized what life was like for the rest of us ugly folks. She didn't like it one bit.

When you're beautiful, you don't get in trouble at school. Teachers see you as "energetic" instead of "disruptive". You get promoted at work faster. You get paid more. People let you merge into traffic. Waiters are nicer to you. You get upgraded at the hotel or the airline. Life is simply easier. And because you have lived your life this way, you don't understand that it is different for ugly people.

Successful Black women have a hard time finding equally or more successful Black men. Successful White women have a hard time finding equally or more successful White men. Many of them went to law school or medical school and devoted years to building their careers. By the time they are ready to marry, their male peers are all dating younger nurses, nannies, teachers, and secretaries. Tragically, very successful women often end up single and childless. I can't tell you how many smart, attractive, and successful female attorneys in their mid to late 30's have cried on my couch because they couldn't find a suitable mate. They do pilates and keto and get skin peels and regualr mani/pedis and electrolysis and get tucks and lifts and everything else.

You see Coach, I don't think Madison Avenue is solely to blame here. I think it is in large part our nature as human animals. Human males are naturally attracted to young curvy women with regular features because that equals healthy offspring. That's not Madison Avenue. That's Charles Darwin. What Madison Avenue does is push one face cream over another. It doesn't create the need to appear young and attractive. That's already inside them.



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Do you really think mass advertising has brainwashed women into thinking they want to look younger...or maybe women naturally want to look younger and mass advertising merely pushes this cream over that cream?
I think Madison Ave. with all the media over the years has made it clear that youth and beauty are the ideal. And that they HAVE the products not only to maintain it but to even create it. They did not create this mindset but they are certainly a catalyst and foster this notion.
My wife seems desperate to find that magic solution. And once again go into a Walmart and look at how much shelf space is dedicated to this industry.
 

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I think Madison Ave. with all the media over the years has made it clear that youth and beauty are the ideal. And that they HAVE the products not only to maintain it but to even create it. They did not create this mindset but they are certainly a catalyst and foster this notion.
My wife seems desperate to find that magic solution. And once again go into a Walmart and look at how much shelf space is dedicated to this industry.

I completely understand what you're saying, but I'm making a chicken-or-the-egg argument.

What's the real driving force here?

China didn't have Madison Avenue a few centuries ago but Chinese women still endured painful and debilitating foot binding to make themselves more attractive.

Long before the US had mass advertising, American women wore corsets so tight they could barely breathe. They wore ridiculous hoop skirts that made it impossible to sit.

The first female millionaire in America was a Black woman who sold hair and beauty products to Black women. Madame CJ Walker. The height of her career was a century ago, in the 1910's.

So which came first? Woman's natural desire to appear young and beautiful or the snake oil salesmen capitalizing on their natural desire?



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My ignorance of women is apparently boundless. I am going to agree with you that it is probably the result of the games men and women
have played since the first time they noticed each other so long ago.
 

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I completely understand what you're saying, but I'm making a chicken-or-the-egg argument.

What's the real driving force here?

China didn't have Madison Avenue a few centuries ago but Chinese women still endured painful and debilitating foot binding to make themselves more attractive.

Long before the US had mass advertising, American women wore corsets so tight they could barely breathe. They wore ridiculous hoop skirts that made it impossible to sit.

The first female millionaire in America was a Black woman who sold hair and beauty products to Black women. Madame CJ Walker. The height of her career was a century ago, in the 1910's.

So which came first? Woman's natural desire to appear young and beautiful or the snake oil salesmen capitalizing on their natural desire?



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Do you really think mass advertising has brainwashed women into thinking they want to look younger...or maybe women naturally want to look younger and mass advertising merely pushes this cream over that cream?

It's fundamental Coach. A man's power can come from various sources. He might be young and virile (and the kind of guy girls like to have affairs with). He may be old and rich. He may be a stable provider. Women strongly prefer to marry men who make more than they do.

A woman's power isn't so diffuse. It tends to be based on youth and attractiveness. That's why women want to look youthful and attractive. It's empowering.

My wife is beautiful. She had beautiful privilege and never knew it. Oh, she knew she could talk her way out of a ticket or get somebody to help her move but she never really understood it. Until she got pregnant. She came back from the grocery store all mopey one day. She finally realized what life was like for the rest of us ugly folks. She didn't like it one bit.

When you're beautiful, you don't get in trouble at school. Teachers see you as "energetic" instead of "disruptive". You get promoted at work faster. You get paid more. People let you merge into traffic. Waiters are nicer to you. You get upgraded at the hotel or the airline. Life is simply easier. And because you have lived your life this way, you don't understand that it is different for ugly people.

Successful Black women have a hard time finding equally or more successful Black men. Successful White women have a hard time finding equally or more successful White men. Many of them went to law school or medical school and devoted years to building their careers. By the time they are ready to marry, their male peers are all dating younger nurses, nannies, teachers, and secretaries. Tragically, very successful women often end up single and childless. I can't tell you how many smart, attractive, and successful female attorneys in their mid to late 30's have cried on my couch because they couldn't find a suitable mate. They do pilates and keto and get skin peels and regualr mani/pedis and electrolysis and get tucks and lifts and everything else.

You see Coach, I don't think Madison Avenue is solely to blame here. I think it is in large part our nature as human animals. Human males are naturally attracted to young curvy women with regular features because that equals healthy offspring. That's not Madison Avenue. That's Charles Darwin. What Madison Avenue does is push one face cream over another. It doesn't create the need to appear young and attractive. That's already inside them.

Alex.

Technology doesn't make things any better for women either, as good looking guys with good jobs have their pick of the litter from girls of all ages AND you aren't just competing with females from your town either. Someone who's a 9 or 10 in Valdosta or Fernandina Beach is going to show up on dating profiles in Jax and while she wouldn't give an average-looking guy a shot in her town--for a Jax doctor or attorney who can provide for her..? You betcha.
 

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Technology doesn't make things any better for women either, as good looking guys with good jobs have their pick of the litter from girls of all ages AND you aren't just competing with females from your town either. Someone who's a 9 or 10 in Valdosta or Fernandina Beach is going to show up on dating profiles in Jax and while she wouldn't give an average-looking guy a shot in her town--for a Jax doctor or attorney who can provide for her..? You betcha.
Why do I get the feeling this was a bit autobiographical. Are you dating a gal from Valdosta or Fernandina Beach?
 

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Why do I get the feeling this was a bit autobiographical. Are you dating a gal from Valdosta or Fernandina Beach?

Haha, no, but it is somewhat autobiographical in the sense that my boss became newly single about 2 months ago and that was his strategy when he started on the online dating thing.

Being younger and better looking than he is, I can go after the hotties in Jax...and occasionally in Gainesville too... :cool:
 

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