Can Franks hold on to the Number 1 QB spot?

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I have a feeling that Frank's is going to hurt himself this year in a freak scooter accident trying to do a wheelie and handstand, at the same time, while riding past Sorority Row, while simultaneously livestreaming, texting, and taking a selfie.

Other than that, Mullen wont bench him.
 

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After watching this, I think Franks actually did better than I might have initially thought. This is encouraging...

 

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While I don't think Franks is the answer, I'm willing to relax and see how he responds in the coming games on the field. What I think should happen NOW is that Mullen tells him to knock off the sideline antics. Part of me thinks they fire up the opposition more than our players. When Kentucky watches film of the Miami game, what are they going to see? Our very own Franks dancing, crotch-grabbing, talking trash, and strutting around like a peacock, despite subpar play. As a defender watching that, wouldn't it motivate you to want to knock his block off? It sure would for me.
 

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While I don't think Franks is the answer, I'm willing to relax and see how he responds in the coming games on the field. What I think should happen NOW is that Mullen tells him to knock off the sideline antics. Part of me thinks they fire up the opposition more than our players. When Kentucky watches film of the Miami game, what are they going to see? Our very own Franks dancing, crotch-grabbing, talking trash, and strutting around like a peacock, despite subpar play. As a defender watching that, wouldn't it motivate you to want to knock his block off? It sure would for me.
This jack comes to mind.

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Franks:

Can throw a laser

Can throw deep

Still is slow to release the ball.


Mia:

A RFR QB who is green as owl crap was picking us apart at times…This with 9 Sacks.

Outside of a 3rd down prevent zone defense I am really curious to where he “picked us apart”. Please provide multiple plays that aren’t screens. I know asking people to back up assertions is taboo, but I’m curious. If he “picked us apart” you should easily come up with a list of 10.
 

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While I don't think Franks is the answer, I'm willing to relax and see how he responds in the coming games on the field. What I think should happen NOW is that Mullen tells him to knock off the sideline antics. Part of me thinks they fire up the opposition more than our players. When Kentucky watches film of the Miami game, what are they going to see? Our very own Franks dancing, crotch-grabbing, talking trash, and strutting around like a peacock, despite subpar play. As a defender watching that, wouldn't it motivate you to want to knock his block off? It sure would for me.

I remember watching the Rose Bowl between Ou and uga, and I agree. The bulldog players wanted nothing more than to shut Mayfield up, and they ultimately got their wish, before losing in the title game on 2nd and 26.

Manziel was similar.

It’s unfortunately the way a lot of kids are these days, but I struggle to see it winning a title. It’s putting your mental weaknesses on display and encouraging defenders to want beat you. The moment things go south, those guys typically don’t recover.

I’m still somewhat hopeful on FF, but I’d hoped to see him take a big step forward on maturity and he didn’t.
 

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All this hate for the QB of our team whose last five games are all wins averaging about 41 pts a
game going back to last year. Last year we won all four road games (not the game in Jax)
with this same QB. I know the bar for UF QBs is so high you have to be in heaven to see it.
But the fact remains he never had much coaching till last year. He has a lot of passion but
my target audience doesnt approve of how he demonstrates it. Hell, as long as we dont get a
penalty I could GAS. I figure he is celebrating cause we scored. Seems to me if you are a
gator fan you pull for them. Support them. Celebrate when they win. Last time I looked we are on
a winning streak. So why such a whining streak. Put me in the column of those that like Felipe and
hope he continues to get better. QB of UF is only less under the microscope than the HBC.
I already know the answers of some of you.........I could actually write your replies.........How about
some new posters that just lurk. What do yall think about our QB? I would love to have another Mr Perfect like Timmy or Danny or even a Rex but I never got exactly what I wanted on Christmas day and figured most other boys didnt either.


Coach, it’s all about a subjective “eye test” and only watching a game once half-drunk with the emotions of the game. How dare people watch multiple times and see things are not as good/bad as they seem without the emotions of the desire to win. Live, people around me were moaning about Franks’ pitch on Davis’ fumble. Re-watching it was a quality pitch. Took me several re-watching a of the picks to see what was going on to see Delance kick Franks’ plant leg back on the second INT (which still shouldn’t have been throw). Hitting legs makes a body fall forward, lowers throw trajectory, that’s science. Same science as hitting high throws the body back and heightens throw trajectory.

Was he perfect, no? Did he do plenty of good things? Yes. Several great throws and a few times he kept plays alive with his feet and/or made some big runs. Did playcalling help? Nope. Is anything in this paragraph even talked about post-game? Not by many who would rather bitch and put the game solely on Franks than say anything positive. We beat Miami, we did so with little to no run game.

If you feel like reacting to me, great, bring examples and let’s have a discussion. If we can’t talk actual plays, play calls, progressions, pressure, and just want to look at one aspect of a bigger picture then we’ve reached UCF fan level. We’re Gators, we are smarter than that.
 

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Coach, it’s all about a subjective “eye test” and only watching a game once half-drunk with the emotions of the game. How dare people watch multiple times and see things are not as good/bad as they seem without the emotions of the desire to win. Live, people around me were moaning about Franks’ pitch on Davis’ fumble. Re-watching it was a quality pitch. Took me several re-watching a of the picks to see what was going on to see Delance kick Franks’ plant leg back on the second INT (which still shouldn’t have been throw). Hitting legs makes a body fall forward, lowers throw trajectory, that’s science. Same science as hitting high throws the body back and heightens throw trajectory.

Was he perfect, no? Did he do plenty of good things? Yes. Several great throws and a few times he kept plays alive with his feet and/or made some big runs. Did playcalling help? Nope. Is anything in this paragraph even talked about post-game? Not by many who would rather ***** and put the game solely on Franks than say anything positive. We beat Miami, we did so with little to no run game.

If you feel like reacting to me, great, bring examples and let’s have a discussion. If we can’t talk actual plays, play calls, progressions, pressure, and just want to look at one aspect of a bigger picture then we’ve reached UCF fan level. We’re Gators, we are smarter than that.

Good Lord...... Not in this Time Line!
 

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Outside of a 3rd down prevent zone defense I am really curious to where he “picked us apart”. Please provide multiple plays that aren’t screens. I know asking people to back up assertions is taboo, but I’m curious. If he “picked us apart” you should easily come up with a list of 10.


Really? Did he look like a RFR who had never started before?


And it was not his passing...it was our tackling...there now, do feel better?


What is very clear…Franks is still Franks
 

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Coach, it’s all about a subjective “eye test” and only watching a game once half-drunk with the emotions of the game. How dare people watch multiple times and see things are not as good/bad as they seem without the emotions of the desire to win. Live, people around me were moaning about Franks’ pitch on Davis’ fumble. Re-watching it was a quality pitch. Took me several re-watching a of the picks to see what was going on to see Delance kick Franks’ plant leg back on the second INT (which still shouldn’t have been throw). Hitting legs makes a body fall forward, lowers throw trajectory, that’s science. Same science as hitting high throws the body back and heightens throw trajectory.

Was he perfect, no? Did he do plenty of good things? Yes. Several great throws and a few times he kept plays alive with his feet and/or made some big runs. Did playcalling help? Nope. Is anything in this paragraph even talked about post-game? Not by many who would rather ***** and put the game solely on Franks than say anything positive. We beat Miami, we did so with little to no run game.

If you feel like reacting to me, great, bring examples and let’s have a discussion. If we can’t talk actual plays, play calls, progressions, pressure, and just want to look at one aspect of a bigger picture then we’ve reached UCF fan level. We’re Gators, we are smarter than that.

I could be way off but I think y'all are saying the same thing...

That upon further review, FF did better than first thought and that there were extenuating circumstances that enabled FF's (percieved) bad showing.
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I could be way off but I think y'all are saying the same thing...

That upon further review, FF did better than first thought and that there were extenuating circumstances that enabled FF's (percieved) bad showing.
:headscratch:

Kind of. Just by numbers alone I would call it an ok showing. Take away turnovers, it's a good showing, but we can't do that. He did mess up a bit. The difference is this (and by the way I agree with Coach, I'm just using a reply to him to grandstand like the jerk I can be) some people have not said one good thing about Franks at all. Some people use subjective tests, and then when I've asked people to discuss specifics they don't. That's Swamp Gas stuff.
 

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Outside of a 3rd down prevent zone defense I am really curious to where he “picked us apart”. Please provide multiple plays that aren’t screens. I know asking people to back up assertions is taboo, but I’m curious. If he “picked us apart” you should easily come up with a list of 10.

217 yrds against with one of the worst OL we will face? 19/30 (63%) for ~ 7rds/play. Before Saturday he had almost NO playing time.
 

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217 yrds against with one of the worst OL we will face? 19/30 (63%) for ~ 7rds/play. Before Saturday he had almost NO playing time.

Dude, if your going to avoid the question I asked don't answer. I'm asking for a list of plays that demonstrate this. not a stat line. I'm not saying he didn't make some downfield throws, but picking us apart is Drew Locke last year. I ask for non-screens for the amount of yards he got on those in the first drive and a rb screen on the last drive of the second half (see these are what we call examples, this is what I asked for, except not the stupid one time only 3rd and Grantham where you drop 8 into a zone that I didn't know Grantham had in his book or use it, fine).

For frame of reference, Franks must have picked apart Miami with 254 yards, 2 TD's and having 4 new starters on his line. And amount of playing time is a completely different thing than picking apart a team.
 

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Dude, if your going to avoid the question I asked don't answer. I'm asking for a list of plays that demonstrate this. not a stat line. I'm not saying he didn't make some downfield throws, but picking us apart is Drew Locke last year. I ask for non-screens for the amount of yards he got on those in the first drive and a rb screen on the last drive of the second half (see these are what we call examples, this is what I asked for, except not the stupid one time only 3rd and Grantham where you drop 8 into a zone that I didn't know Grantham had in his book or use it, fine).

For frame of reference, Franks must have picked apart Miami with 254 yards, 2 TD's and having 4 new starters on his line. And amount of playing time is a completely different thing than picking apart a team.

NO Franks should have picked the U a part.

DUDE...I agree, MIA did not "Pick us apart"...OKAY but early on he was finding our underbelly.

MY POINT...He is a RFR that everyone expected to FOLD under the pressure. FRANKS is a RJR with tons of playing time and some smokin hot WR/TE w/ several size mismatches.
 

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Yea the first drive they ran lots of quick screens and all the things I put on here before and after the game that we should have done to neutralize the pass rush. This is playcalling genius and very little has to do with the QB other than catch the snap turn and throw. I'd say the same thing about Franks.

I still don't see what your playing time point is without the context of playcalling, pressure, routes, and any serious example. Here is one for free. I don't think Miami's QB once completed a downfield pass after escaping the pocket. Meanwhile, Franks on 4th and 5 with 8:45 to go in the 3rd slides right and directs traffic and hits Grimes for a first down. I'm pretty sure there was another one, but the one off of the top of my head, a strike to Hammond on the left for a first down earlier in the third quarter he stayed in the pocket and delivered the ball with a guy in his face. Actually hit a few pass with guys in his face
 

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Interesting and a little surprising.

@GatorsReddit: Feleipe Franks threw for 254 yards, more than any other QB against Miami all last season. His 63% completion rate was better than any team that threw 5 or more passes. His 2 passing touchdowns would have tied for first. All behind an OL breaking in 4 new starters.


Interasante'
 

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Everyone bags on 3rd and Grantham. The pick six against LSU was rushing 3 and dropping 8 in coverage.

I sometimes wonder if I am watching the same team as some posters in here. I rewatched the game. The first pick was high and went off the receivers hands OR it was intended for the receiver behind him. Not sure why we have 2 receivers running post routes that close together.

The second interception he got hit in the lower body as he was throwing and couldn't get anything on it.

The first fumble had a mesh problem with the RB. DOn't know how they teach it, but we teach if the QB has two hands on the ball, its not yours yet.

The second fumble is on the RB. Two times, even though I thought he recovered it.

SOmeone asked why didn't we run the option we seemed to have success with last year. Duh. We ran it once to each side. Fumbled to the right and lost yards to the left.

I guarantee anyone would be happy with Franks this year passing for 3000 yards, throwing 25 tds, and rushing for 12 more. He needs to clean up a few things no doubt, but good God people, our running game worries me more than Franks.
 

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His check down to the RB has gotten old. Really needs to throw the ball down the field.
Not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying he’s checking down when it’s open down the field? Personally I have not seen that. He seems more likely to be overconfident in his arm and force passes where he should not. On the second pick I wish he had checked down to Grimes who was open in the flat. Would have been a positive play, and with Grimes running abilities, maybe a real positive play, or at worst an incompletion out of bounds. I have no problem with a kill shot if it’s there; my concern with FF is knowing the difference between when it’s there and when it’s not. And when it’s not, sometimes you have to know to take the sack.
 

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