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If I upload a 10,000 word essay on the contents of a ping pong ball, do you promise to read the whole thing?

I'd read it if it is a peer reviewed study relevant to a topic I am interested in. How often can you turn to evidence based medicine in a football related discussion?
 

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I'd read it if it is a peer reviewed study relevant to a topic I am interested in. How often can you turn to evidence based medicine in a football related discussion?
So, just to get this straight, since he broke his foot last year you think he has a big chance of breaking his foot again this year? Or is your theory that since he broke his foot that the rest of his body is weak and prone to breakage as well?
 

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So, just to get this straight, since he broke his foot last year you think he has a big chance of breaking his foot again this year? Or is your theory that since he broke his foot that the rest of his body is weak and prone to breakage as well?

He broke his foot last year, and tore his meniscus the year before. It's not that his body is weak. I am sure S&C strengthened that for him. But once you suffer an injury, you are just more likely to have the same injury or a different injury involving the same limb due to odd mechanics.

In case you haven't read the article I linked. I'll quote:

"ACL injury was linked to a successive injury of the same ACL, and other injuries in the LE. HS was associated with subsequent ipsilateral HS and knee injuries. Previous achilles tendon rupture increased the risk of an analogous injury on the contralateral side. An ankle sprain was associated with a re‐injury of either the ipsilateral or the contralateral ankle. Post‐injury changes were present in strength, proprioception, and kinematics, which may have led to overall changes in motor control and function."
 

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Good scoop: Top Billin' KT pumping and, alas and alack, Heggie/Delance dumping:

I like this guy's stuff but I thought he could have mentioned at the 8:00 mark how much running room Trask had if that handoff was a option instead of a straight up run.
 

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He broke his foot last year, and tore his meniscus the year before. It's not that his body is weak. I am sure S&C strengthened that for him. But once you suffer an injury, you are just more likely to have the same injury or a different injury involving the same limb due to odd mechanics.

In case you haven't read the article I linked. I'll quote:

"ACL injury was linked to a successive injury of the same ACL, and other injuries in the LE. HS was associated with subsequent ipsilateral HS and knee injuries. Previous achilles tendon rupture increased the risk of an analogous injury on the contralateral side. An ankle sprain was associated with a re‐injury of either the ipsilateral or the contralateral ankle. Post‐injury changes were present in strength, proprioception, and kinematics, which may have led to overall changes in motor control and function."
I really don't think its groundbreaking stuff to opine that a guy who has had ACL injuries or a separated shoulder is going to have an increased risk of a re-injury. My point is that Trask's specific injuries in the past don't mean he's some sort of fragile QB.
 

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My point is that Trask's specific injuries in the past don't mean he's some sort of fragile QB.

:what2:

But that is the point. He is more fragile precisely because he got injured in the past. That is literally what the study showed. If you read past the first word in the paragraph I quoted it is not just ACL injuries.

At this point I feel we are talking in circles.
 

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So, just to get this straight, since he broke his foot last year you think he has a big chance of breaking his foot again this year? Or is your theory that since he broke his foot that the rest of his body is weak and prone to breakage as well?
Some players are injury prone without a doubt.
 

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It's been said in the past that he has a faster release than Franks, and it appeared that way last night. In addition, he seemed to make his reads faster. As pointed out previously, if he wasn't #1, there has to be a reason that he wasn't. But with the awful Vols up next, and lowly Towson after that, hopefully he and Emory (since Dan said he'll be playing two QBs) will get enough experience to be ready for Auburn on 10/5. A stronger running game would help, too.
 

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:what2:

But that is the point. He is more fragile precisely because he got injured in the past. That is literally what the study showed. If you read past the first word in the paragraph I quoted it is not just ACL injuries.

At this point I feel we are talking in circles.
You're just being difficult. He had a foot injury. Maybe his foot is more prone to injury now, shocker. My question to you is simply this: Does that mean the rest of his body is now more prone to injury? Yes or no? What I'm asking you to do is clarify your claim that he is injury prone with something specific. If you're worried about his foot then fine, but if you're making his foot injury into more than it is then not fine.
 

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It's been said in the past that he has a faster release than Franks, and it appeared that way last night. In addition, he seemed to make his reads faster. As pointed out previously, if he wasn't #1, there has to be a reason that he wasn't. But with the awful Vols up next, and lowly Towson after that, hopefully he and Emory (since Dan said he'll be playing two QBs) will get enough experience to be ready for Auburn on 10/5. A stronger running game would help, too.

If an injury to Franks had to come, it came at the right time.
 

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Kentucky had chopped liver playing in the secondary. I think we need to step on the breaks.
 

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Does that mean the rest of his body is now more prone to injury? Yes or no?

Answer is: Yes. Seriously Zambo, did you read my quote? Sorry if you don't understand medical lingo I'll translate.

"ACL injury was linked to a successive injury of the same ACL, and other injuries in the LE. HS was associated with subsequent ipsilateral HS and knee injuries."

"Previous achilles tendon rupture increased the risk of an analogous injury on the contralateral side. An ankle sprain was associated with a re‐injury of either the ipsilateral or the contralateral ankle."

Translation: Contralateral means other side (uninjured side).
 

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Answer is: Yes. Seriously Zambo, did you read my quote? Sorry if you don't understand medical lingo I'll translate.

"ACL injury was linked to a successive injury of the same ACL, and other injuries in the LE. HS was associated with subsequent ipsilateral HS and knee injuries."

"Previous achilles tendon rupture increased the risk of an analogous injury on the contralateral side. An ankle sprain was associated with a re‐injury of either the ipsilateral or the contralateral ankle."

Translation: Contralateral means other side (uninjured side).
Well I guess you're right, we should probably just show mercy on the poor bastard and shoot him like a horse.
 

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Kentucky had chopped liver playing in the secondary. I think we need to step on the breaks.

I think most would say that Trask looked better than Franks would have under the same conditions. That's a good sign at least. Am I worried about going forward with a guy who has never started an SEC game? Yup.
 

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God, I love this board, I snickered out loud when I read this :lol:
I did as well. I also love that a marine pilot is arguing with what appears to be a medical professional (solely based on assumption due to user name and avatar) about who knows more about medical injuries and prone to injuries. :lol:
 

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Great points. I am interested to see how far Trask can take us. I am convinced he sees the field better and has a higher IQ. Hopefully we can start putting a lot more points on the board to protect our weak defense.
I think he is just better than Franks. Cousin Eddie, it seems, was bound and determined to make a QB out of Franks. I'm glad that my theory will be finally tested.
 

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