Franks out for season

ThreatMatrix · Sep 15, 2019

Trask is an interception machine. Still an upgrade over Franks who, let's face it, wasn't really a QB in the sense that real QB's can throw passes to non-quarantined receivers.

Best of luck to Franks after his career ending injury.

SGG · Sep 15, 2019

Gator Fever said:
Get back with me later in the year and we can compare comments - just telling some realities with the situation now with our O line etc. I just choose not to live in fantasy land like some.

I already put my prediction out there weeks ago, and it doesn’t change. We will beat Auburn, lose to LSU and beat UGay. Struggle and/or lose to Missouri or SC. One or the other. The East will come down to what happens in Jax.

Gator Fever · Sep 15, 2019

SGG said:
I already put my prediction out there weeks ago, and it doesn’t change. We will beat Auburn, lose to LSU and beat UGay. Struggle and/or lose to Missouri or SC. One or the other. The East will come down to what happens in Jax.

OK we can compare notes after Auburn then.

ergator920103 · Sep 15, 2019

Gator Fever said:
I think we downplay how well that unit run blocked last season. You could see in the Spring game this group was lost when it came to that.

I guess we watched different games last season as I saw DL in the backfield almost immediately after the snap and our RB's having to avoid tackles and make plays on their own. Same on passing plays. Franks had one to two counts to determine where to pass or to run... Horrendous OL for the last 6 or 7 years.

ergator920103 · Sep 15, 2019

UFHealthGator said:
OL recruiting has actually been one of the better recruited positions given our atrocious recruiting otherwise, but it is one of the positions that true freshmen just can't start right away and takes significant time to develop. That is why we are stuck with 3* whisperer butters specials on the oline behind a number of much more talented out of high school recruits.

As for what our record for the Oline specifically looks last year:

Is Florida's offensive line really a weak spot for 2019? - Read and Reaction

In comparison with Georgia and Bama our OL recruiting sucks. Really not sure where you're coming from here.We did get a couple of 4 stars who were not able to go where they originally wanted to go but, Hevesey is a terrible recruiter and developer.

ergator920103 · Sep 15, 2019

UFHealthGator said:
Trask seems to be a better midrange passer, but he can't run unless he goes completely uncovered, and he is injury prone. I also don't think he has the arm strength to threaten a deep ball. That limits Mullens playbook significantly. Also UK had a very thin secondary. LSU and UGA are going to completely shut that down.

As for the OL, they have been atrocious on the run blocking but have been decent on pass protection. I agree that it is on Hevesy, but unless you are at Donkey delusional levels, you just can't replace 4 starters on the OLine and expect them to be stout in the SEC or against an above average Dline upfront. People have been saying that since last season but it seems everyone is focused on the QB position more than anything else.

Mullen needs to do what he is paid bucket loads of money to do and figure out how to use two starting QBs each game to play for their strengths against the tough competition.

If you have been to or, watched a spring game, you would know that Trask who is 6'5", 240 can definitely throw the long ball. He is more adept at putting the ball where the WR is going to be than Franks. That said, when he came in cold off the bench last night he had a few scary throws which we luckily got away with. He will get all of the first team reps this week and will be better prepared to play.

itsgr82bag8r · Sep 15, 2019

UFHealthGator said:
Trask seems to be a better midrange passer, but he can't run unless he goes completely uncovered, and he is injury prone. I also don't think he has the arm strength to threaten a deep ball. That limits Mullens playbook significantly. Also UK had a very thin secondary. LSU and UGA are going to completely shut that down.
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Zambo · Sep 15, 2019

itsgr82bag8r · Sep 15, 2019

Swamp Donkey said:
Trash requires us to abandon about 80% of the playbook. On most of the running plays, we dont block a defensive end and expect the QB to handle him by reading or hurting them on foot if they crash on the tailback run.

Its Ihe option playbook that I despise, but it is what we have spent the last two years installing. You dont change it in a week.

Welcome back bro!

Hope you stick around!

GatorAuthor · Sep 15, 2019

Red D said:
Frank’s ankle is In shambles

It simply HAD to be said, damnit!! Good on you, Red D.

Independent of this, the "shambles" thing has cracked me up nearly every time. i don't know if it has run its course, but that's been some funny stuff.

GatorAuthor · Sep 15, 2019

LongTooth said:
Dan said in the presser that it’ll be a two headed monster going forward at QB. I imagine Emory will do more of the rpo and qb running to protect Kyle a bit from injury.

I wonder if he’ll have the two qbs take whole series or cycle them in for one or two plays. Probably the former. He seems to like the idea of rhythm for QBs. Hard to do when subbing a bunch.

Two headed monster? That's crap. Let's roll with the guy who actually ran the passing offense last night. Sure, he's not a game breaking runner, but neither was Franks! FF always seemed to hand it off, and his successes on designed QB runs (not broken plays) were relatively rare.

GatorAuthor · Sep 15, 2019

78 said:
Actually, likely not. I dislocated my ankle and broke the fubula on a tennis court 30 years ago. The foot was at a 45 to the leg. Biggest pain was resetting the sucker in the ER.

Ligaments were repaired during surgery and they put three screws in the fibula to stabilize the bone. I was back on the court hitting balls in three months and fully healed in six. Zero residual effects. The ankle joint isn't nearly as delicate as the knee.

Dude, that's a brutal injury on a tennis court. I play a fair amount, but I'm not sure I would if that happened.

itsgr82bag8r · Sep 15, 2019

Gator Fever said:
I think he shows he is stubborn with the QB position based on his past stops. He (or that staff) wouldn't change out the more senior QBs at Miss State or Utah with the younger ones that proved to be much better right off the bat until an injury took the more senior QB out of the game.

What utter bullshat.

Be specific with your complaint about his refusal to play the better QB over a senior. There's not one single thing in his "past stops" that show anything like what you claim.

You think Tebow should've replaced Leak? You think Brantley was better than Tebow? Maybe you thought someone else was better than Dak Prescott? GTFO

Look, there's plenty of things to bytch about if you want to bash Mullen, but this isn't one of them.

78 · Sep 15, 2019

GatorAuthor said:
Dude, that's a brutal injury on a tennis court. I play a fair amount, but I'm not sure I would if that happened.

Third-set fatigue injury. Went way wide to my left for a two-fisted backhand and came down awkward. I knew instantly something bad had happened.

Gator Fever · Sep 15, 2019

itsgr82bag8r said:
What utter bullshat.

Be specific with your complaint about his refusal to play the better QB over a senior. There's not one single thing in his "past stops" that show anything like what you claim.

You think Tebow should've replaced Leak? You think Brantley was better than Tebow? Maybe you thought someone else was better than Dak Prescott? GTFO

Look, there's plenty of things to bytch about if you want to bash Mullen, but this isn't one of them.

You are joking right? They didn't put Alex Smith or Dak Prescott in as the starter over the more senior QB until they got injured. And when they did start after that they were much better than the former starters.

As far as Tebow the safe play was to leave Leak in there with Tebow as the bulldozer but I do think he would have played better by mid-season in that system probably despite Leak being pretty good.

Look at Tebow right off the bat in 07 he was as good as he ever was.

itsgr82bag8r · Sep 15, 2019

Gator Fever said:
You are joking right? They didn't put Alex Smith or Dak Prescott in as the starter over the more senior QB until they got injured. And when they did start after that they were much better than the former starters.

As far as Tebow the safe play was to leave Leak in there with Tebow as the bulldozer but I do think he would have played better by mid-season in that system probably despite Leak being pretty good.

Look at Tebow right off the bat in 07 he was as good as he ever was.

You're incorrect about Dak. I was at most all of the MSU games while he was there and he played as soon as he was functional. He sat behind nobody as the better QB, nobody. At any time.
Leak was the better passer & decision maker BY FAR over Tebow the entire year. You want to rest your argument that Urban allowed Tim to sit and let Leak play because Mullen just refused to play better talent? GTFO

You're full of shyt.

Gator Fever · Sep 15, 2019

itsgr82bag8r said:
You're incorrect about Dak. I was at most all of the MSU games while he was there and he played as soon as he was functional. He sat behind nobody better, nobody. At any time.
Leak was the better passer & decision maker BY FAR over Tebow the entire year. You want to rest your argument that Urban allowed Tim to sit and let Leak play because Mullen just refused to play better talent? GTFO

Prescott didn't start until after the QB got injured in the game before that - same with Alex Smith. This myth some of you push about coaches always playing the best option at QB over experience is 100% false.

UFHealthGator · Sep 15, 2019

williston_gator said:
I don't know how legit this is, but I was sent this earlier.

He injured his right foot....

itsgr82bag8r · Sep 15, 2019

Gator Fever said:
Prescott didn't start until after the QB got injured in the game before that. This myth some of you push about coaches always playing the best option over experience is 100% false.

You can try to justify your bullshyt statement all day. It doesn't make it correct.

Get over it. You'll have to deal with being called out on BS in your own way.

LeeForThree · Sep 15, 2019

UFHealthGator said:
He injured his right foot....

Isnt the assumption here that it spun all the way around, so he has 2 left feet now

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