The Bottom Line: UF is 3-0

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Win the game. The majority of fan bases would take our 3-0 start in a heart beat. Just ask UK.
Finding a way to win these kinds of games helps a team to believe and come together. When I saw
early on how UK was beating us on the lines I thought to myself those big fatazzes cannot do that an
entire game. I knew with Savage we had a chance to beat them in the end. I saw lots of their boys down in the fourth qtr. This UK program is playing better than they have in many decades. We lose our best pass rusher early and still win. We go into the 4th qtr down by two scores and still win. We are on the road in a loud stadium and bring in the 2nd team QB and still win. Somebody coached him up. David Reese stepped up
in the 4th qtr. This team has character and play for each other. Give me all the what ifs you want and
all the bad but at the end of the day we are 3-0. Trask now has 2 home games to get settled in to the
starting roll. He had a GREAT start last night.

When the game is going on winning the game by any margin however you look and however you have to do it is the goal. However we are not looking for UF to mimic McElwain here and win 10 games only to be non-competitive against top teams.

One quarter of the way through the season UF is 123rd out of 130 teams in offensive plays per game and 96th out of 130 in defensive plays per game. Those stats are to me a cause for concern and are among many stats that are a cause for concern.
 
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Coach, yes, everyone should be happy to be 3-0. I am. I think it is fair to look at the big picture as well. Is this sustainable? That's where the questions come in. We'll see.
 

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This is so fvkking stupid.

We arent winning games we have no business winning. We are NEARLY losing games we have no business losing. Or maybe
we win games in last second come from behinds that we should be blowing out maybe.

We have no business beating Bammer, Climpson, OSU and Dwags and we never will under this staff

We have no business ever losing to Kintucky or Methzu or any of the other dregs of the SEC. or scUM. Ever, and we will at about a 50% clip according to Mullinz' resume.

Your right. I would much rather it be the previous 10 years where when we look awful we get blown out rather than look awful and still win. We may have gone from Goodwill to Walmart but at least we got better. This is a stop gap. We are stuck here for now and lord knows how long with his lucky rabbit foot. It’s not what we want, but it’s better than it was.
 

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Your right. I would much rather it be the previous 10 years where when we look awful we get blown out rather than look awful and still win. We may have gone from Goodwill to Walmart but at least we got better. This is a stop gap. We are stuck here for now and lord knows how long with his lucky rabbit foot. It’s not what we want, but it’s better than it was.

UF's last 10 seasons have been:

2009: 13-1
2010: 8-5
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2
2013: 4-8
2014: 7-5
2015: 10-4
2016: 9-4
2017: 4-8
2018: 10-3

Certainly half of those years UF had ok to good records implying UF got the winning part right a decent amount of the time. Other than maybe Meyer's 2009 seasons, UF was not competitive in games against top teams. That is the issue. That is what neither McElwain nor Muschamp seemed to be able to understand. The UF job is not just about winning. It about being able to compete at the top level and win some of the time.
 
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UF's last 10 seasons have been:
2012: 12-1
Jeebus fvkking Christ.

We werent fvkking 12-1 in 2012.

There is no actual rule that Muschump bowl losses don't count.

And we dont count moral victories for eight point losses that we ALMOST won if we had just scored even a single offensive TD instead of winning Time of Possession.
 
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Jeebus fvkking Christ.

We werent fvkking 12-1 in 2012.

There is no actual rule that Muschump bowl losses don't count.

Sorry, I transferred the season records a couple at a time and I guess I am getting too old for that. Thanks for the correction and I corrected it in my original post.
 

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How did I move the goalposts. At no point in my first post did I paint this as all roses. I simply pointed out he’s better than Chump and Butters. I may be alone but while we are not rising back to the top at the pace we want we are no longer circling the drain in a slow death. There are many things that still need to be improved but during the previous two regimes I never once expected to win a game and losing badly was never something that shocked me. Yes we should never lose to Vandy, Kentucky or Missouri, but this is where we are now. We are barely winning games against them that should have never have been a game. Under the previous two we would have just quit and took the L. Mullen is not my choice, but we don’t look like a high school team anymore.
 

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Sorry, I transferred the season records a couple at a time and I guess I am getting too old for that. Thanks for the correction and I corrected it in my original post.
That was Fooley and Chimp using their mind control over you. They tried to sell that one loss thing for several years.
 

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How did I move the goalposts. At no point in my first post did I paint this as all roses. I simply pointed out he’s better than Chump and Butters.
Bc he isnt, youre just hoping he will be. at this point chimp was Fielding a championship defense and a Georgia bull dwag like offense and butters was on the way to his second SEC championship game. Mullins is barely missing a two-game losing streak to Kintucky and leading us to a fifth straight double-digit recruiting class.

You hope he will be better, so do I, but he hasn't proven a damn thing.
 

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Bc he isnt, youre just hoping he will be. at this point chimp was Fielding a championship defense and a Georgia bull dwag like offense and butters was on the way to his second SEC championship game. Mullins is barely missing a two-game losing streak to Kintucky and leading us to a fifth straight double-digit recruiting class.

You hope he will be better, so do I, but he hasn't proven a damn thing.

If you had to pick one of the 3 who would it be.
 

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UF's last 10 seasons have been:

2009: 13-1
2010: 8-5
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2
2013: 4-8
2014: 7-5
2015: 10-4
2016: 9-4
2017: 4-8
2018: 10-3

Certainly half of those years UF had ok to good records implying UF got the winning part right a decent amount of the time. Other than maybe Meyer's 2009 seasons, UF was not competitive in games against top teams. That is the issue. That is what neither McElwain nor Muschamp seemed to be able to understand. The UF job is not just about winning. It about being able to compete at the top level and win some of the time.
Last year GA we did much better relative to top teams. The score did not reflect the closeness of the game.
 

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Being 3-0 in week 3 isn't the bottom line. Nowhere near it. Its the first quarter of the season.

What it is, is enough to start making educated guesses about how the season is going to go. I predict we are 4-0 this time next week. I predict 5-0 this time in two weeks. But that is where my faith ends. And that aint anywhere near the bottom line either.

Here is what it seems to be issues of concern going past 5-0:

<> Our OL isn't good at run blocking. Our TEs aren't very good either. There has been no real progress seen as of yet.

<> Our D front 7 isn't good at stopping the run. They are small and can easily get pushed around. Reese is good about plugging a hole but he doesn't seem to always get to the hole in time. When he does, he stops it though, but just not enough.

<> Our DL struggled and never really got over the hurdle of getting pressure on the QB against their first real OL. scUM and UTM were exactly what they looked like ... high school OL. UK OL shut them down all night.

<> Our secondary isn't worthy of using DBU. Davis's interceptions were clutch, but they were also bad throws by the freshman UK QB rather than Davis jumping routes. They played a much better 2nd half and got robbed on that last pass interference call at the end against Wagner, but they are very vulnerable.

<> We are one QB injury away from having big problems.

I think we have some positives too, but I just not sure anything positive we have will matter unless some of the above is either wrong or fixed.
 

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We'll definitely be fine the next two weeks. I'm not completely worried about Auburn. Their defense is solid, but their offense is the very definition of pedestrian. There won't be many points scored. LSU is obviously a problem, most likely a loss. I'm not terribly worried about SCar, but we'll get to see exactly what they're made of at Missouri next week. I'm expecting a major post-Bama hangover. UGA is also a problem, also probably a loss. Zero worries about Vandy other than the post-UGA hangover we're famous for. Lord knows what we'll get when we travel to Mizzou. And LOL if anyone is worried about FSU.

So at this point, even with the injuries, I still think 9-3 is a very real possibility. 10-2 is still the ceiling (as it was before the season), and barring anymore major injuries, 8-4 seems to be the floor.
 

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When I say stabilize I mean not look like a joke week in and week out and be a laughing stock. To actually think we have a chance prior to kickoff. To not go down by more than 7 and know the game is over. To not have the team repeatedly just quit. To not still be what FSU is becoming now. We used to be the program that had memes made about them every week. Recruiting sucks and I don’t know anyone that disagrees with that. It’s not pretty and it’s not fun but we have gained back some respectability. The no business winning doesn’t always apply to teams you are inferior to before kickoff. It can be games last night that under Butters would have turned into a UK route. We played like crap and won a game we had no business winning even if we think we should blow them out. I see that as better than it turning into a blowout loss where the team quits.
 

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UF's last 10 seasons have been:

2009: 13-1
2010: 8-5
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2
2013: 4-8
2014: 7-5
2015: 10-4
2016: 9-4
2017: 4-8
2018: 10-3

Certainly half of those years UF had ok to good records implying UF got the winning part right a decent amount of the time. Other than maybe Meyer's 2009 seasons, UF was not competitive in games against top teams. That is the issue. That is what neither McElwain nor Muschamp seemed to be able to understand. The UF job is not just about winning. It about being able to compete at the top level and win some of the time.
If measuring by wins/losses, I would place “good” season at 3 or less losses. Only 3 of the last 10 would count. But we know championships are important too and none of those seasons qualify. Not even 2009.
 

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Game management and play calling have been on the poor side so far this season which is disappointing as it was seemingly better last year....What hasn't changed is the team coming out flatter than a pancake EVERY single game under Mullen...

Under most circumstances 17th ranked talent will not be able to overcome higher ranked talent when they don't get their heads out of their asses until the 4th quarter.....coming back from 11 points down to UK and being down 21 points to LSU or UGA are 2 different things entirely...

We are also still in the bad habit of squandering points particularly in the first half....If you cross midfield on the road in this conference you need to come away with points, even FG's. Stop always going for it on 4th down. Stop always trying to immediately put your QB into a bad position by calling long slow developing deep drop pass plays on their side of the field. Were getting too many sacks, holding penalties, and turnovers trying to heave it in from the 40-50 yard line. Sure send someone deep but work the underneath, 5-8 yard area, and let our guys run with it after the catch.
 

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