Dan Mullen is one lucky SOB

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I like this definition of luck: When preparation meets opportunity.

I get the impression the OP things luck is a bad thing.

I'll take all I can get......

As Tiny Tim said, "more please".

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We had a couple calls go our way as well. And if the kid hit the FG we would have been all over Mullen for the 2 missed 2 pt conversions. If he would have just kicked the extra points their FG would have only tied the game.

He started chasing points too early in the game, also a flaw Spurrier had when a kicker would missed an extra point.
 

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The biggest change was the difference in the types of play calls, Franks was doing 5 and 7 step drops and Trask was given a lot of 3 step drops. Behind out line which wasn't having the best night, that kind of play calling change is huge.
 

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He started chasing points too early in the game, also a flaw Spurrier had when a kicker would missed an extra point.

Going for 2 was the right call, it was the 4th quarter. My problem w/ the 2nd missed 2 point conversion was we had 3 timeouts and he sat on them (Spurrier did the same thing vs. Tennessee in 2001 in the late season game after the 9/11 cancellation). The 2 at that point was much more critical than the first 2 point attempt. Also, regardless of this discussion - Mullen needs to draw up better 2-point conversion plays for the future!
 

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Going for 2 was the right call, it was the 4th quarter. My problem w/ the 2nd missed 2 point conversion was we had 3 timeouts and he sat on them (Spurrier did the same thing vs. Tennessee in 2001 in the late season game after the 9/11 cancellation). The 2 at that point was much more critical than the first 2 point attempt. Also, regardless of this discussion - Mullen needs to draw up better 2-point conversion plays for the future!

Was the first one in the 4th, if it was, I that's my bad... for some reason I thought it was the 3rd.
 

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The biggest change was the difference in the types of play calls, Franks was doing 5 and 7 step drops and Trask was given a lot of 3 step drops. Behind out line which wasn't having the best night, that kind of play calling change is huge.

Why do you think Franks takes longer drops? Probably to give him more time to process. Just a guess though...
 

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Why do you think Franks takes longer drops? Probably to give him more time to process. Just a guess though...

Could be a variety of reasons. The decision making appeared (imo) to be quicker for Trask, but the plays were also set up to develop faster.
 

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Sorry but based on the score and the time remaining it was stupid to go for two on the first Trask touchdown drive. Period.
 

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Sorry but based on the score and the time remaining it was stupid to go for two on the first Trask touchdown drive. Period.

We had scored 16 points at the point and were down 5. A 2-point conversion makes the score 21-18. Not going for it puts us down 4, which is useless. It was absolutely, 100%, no if's, and's, or but's about it the right call. There is a "book" on this and it was the right call. Not going for it would be like staying on a 15 vs. a dealer showing a face card in blackjack. You absolutely have to hit, even if the next card is a 10 you absolutely must hit (because the card could be a 6). We hit and missed. The 2nd attempt w/ 3 timeouts is what bothers me (not using the timeout).
 

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We had scored 16 points at the point and were down 5. A 2-point conversion makes the score 21-18. Not going for it puts us down 4, which is useless. It was absolutely, 100%, no if's, and's, or but's about it the right call. There is a "book" on this and it was the right call. Not going for it would be like staying on a 15 vs. a dealer showing a face card in blackjack. You absolutely have to hit, even if the next card is a 10 you absolutely must hit (because the card could be a 6). We hit and missed. The 2nd attempt w/ 3 timeouts is what bothers me (not using the timeout).

If it was five minutes to go in the fourth quarter maybe. Not at the very beginning of the fourth quarter. The call was dumb.
 

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If it was five minutes to go in the fourth quarter maybe. Not at the very beginning of the fourth quarter. The call was dumb.

The first 2 was at 12:41, the second 2 was at 4:11.

The first 2 puts us down 3 if we make it. The extra point would have put us down by 4. It was 100% the right call. It was the 4th quarter. If it was the 3rd quarter, you would be 100% right. It was the right call. The second 2, Mullen should have used one of his 3 remaining timeouts.
 

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We had scored 16 points at the point and were down 5. A 2-point conversion makes the score 21-18. Not going for it puts us down 4, which is useless. It was absolutely, 100%, no if's, and's, or but's about it the right call. There is a "book" on this and it was the right call.
Yes it certainly was the right call. Nobody has a crystal ball to know that we were going to score another TD to go ahead especially since both teams were not exactly lighting up the scoreboard....Perhaps in a more wide open game where the defenses were struggling you might kick the PAT with that much time remaining but again that just wasn't the case.
 

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Omg you people are ****ing idiots.
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Yes it certainly was the right call. Nobody has a crystal ball to know that we were going to score another TD to go ahead especially since both teams were not exactly lighting up the scoreboard....Perhaps in a more wide open game where the defenses were struggling you might kick the PAT with that much time remaining but again that just wasn't the case.

Agreed, not sure why ANYONE that has ever watched football in their life would disagree.
 

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We had scored 16 points at the point and were down 5. A 2-point conversion makes the score 21-18. Not going for it puts us down 4, which is useless. It was absolutely, 100%, no if's, and's, or but's about it the right call. There is a "book" on this and it was the right call. Not going for it would be like staying on a 15 vs. a dealer showing a face card in blackjack. You absolutely have to hit, even if the next card is a 10 you absolutely must hit (because the card could be a 6). We hit and missed. The 2nd attempt w/ 3 timeouts is what bothers me (not using the timeout).
What bothers me is how unimaginative the two attempts were. If those are the two best 2 point plays in our book, we just need to always kick from now on.
 

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Agreed, not sure why ANYONE that has ever watched football in their life would disagree.
Because you and I are the only dumbasses that haven't purchased a crystal ball to tell us that our anemic offense was going to score again with 4 minutes left...:lol2: everyone else got theirs before the game....
 

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