Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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In fairness, he didn't set the terms for discussion. They were set for him, snd as strange as it may seem, he appears to have a point. When Butters was winning the East, we knew that the team would lose badly to a good team. And they did. Now you may suspect that this team would lose badly to a good team because they lost badly theo mediocre teams last year and barely won against mediocre teams this year, but you don't know that because it hasn't happened. After all, there have been athletic teams that lose to mediocre teams and beat good ones.
I have read enough posts from law to know that he understands these distinctions and only pretends not to. The rest of you, who knows.
 

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You peeps are literally so literal.
I’m not firing anybody. It’s hard to fire a 9-10 win regular season coach. Ask Georgia. But that’s the limbo we are stuck in with the recruiting that we have.
To win the SEC we need to recruit at the level of our completion.
Why is that so hard to understand?
I don't think it's that hard for them to understand as much as it is that they are in denial. Some believe in what they seen out of Mullen at Miss St. They seen him take 3* players and compete with the Bama's of the world and think to themselves if he can do that with 3* Miss kids surely he will bring championships with 3* Fl talent.

I'd have way more faith in him if UGA was not the powerhouse that they are. Oh yeah most on this board are in denial about him and UGA as well.

Were not winning any titles until recruiting picks up I a major way. I'm not greedy saying we have to be full of 5* players and get every elite player in the state but we need to pull a few yearly. Kids like Bowman and Davis cant get away from us. Lock down our state and start pulling bare minimum 2 of the top 5 players in our state, 4 of the top 10 and at least 10 of the top 25 and we would be just fine. Instead right now we have 3 of the top 25 Clemson has 3 of the top 4, UGA has 4, FSU has 4, Miami has 3. Miami and FSU are in a complete tailspin and are still out recruiting us. Its unacceptable but nothing is going to change.
 

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it wasn't a random statement, it was quoting another post that I didn't think was quite true.


Does our iffy recruiting even play into the loss to Mizzou last year? I'm just assuming we have more talent and better coaching. If we can hang with uga and their talent for 3.5 qtrs, and lsu and their talent, then our recruiting and talent shouldn't be the main reason for the Mizzou (and uk) loss.

I do think we need to recruit better.
 

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Mehhhhh..... Butters inherited quite a bit of REAL talent on defense and some decent talent on offense. Will Grier was obvious but there are several guys from that offense in the NFL. He just didn’t know how to use them. Sidehat got lots out of that defense though. Mullen inherited an absolute mess and stil produced 10 wins. Our BC ratio was way down. He’s started to right that. My biggest concerns remain the same though... he’s not recruiting well enough fast enough and he’s keeping deadweight on staff - same as Butters. At least Champ wasn’t afraid to fire someone.
 

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They seen him take 3* players and compete with the Bama's of the world.
Although I struggle to.get past the grammatical issues of "they seen", what the fvkk are you talking about? Dullen never competed with Bammer. 0-8 isnt "competing with." Win some lose some equals competing with.

33-39 in the conference sure as hell isnt competing w anyone except Burp Buliemia. He was .500 ish w Burp and Matt Luke.

Is anything less than 41-14 considered "competing with" now? The Butters standard of " atleast it wasnt a total blowout by half and at least we scored one offensive TD" like people on this very board argued?
 
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Do we have a legitimate shot at flipping Avantae Williams? GCMB is the only place I see it mentioned. (To be fair, I’m not on any pay sites.) If so, I’d be pleased with this year’s safety haul. I’m no expert, but Torrance looked good in the game I saw against very good competition.

Torrance is the real deal
 

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You peeps are literally so literal.
I’m not firing anybody. It’s hard to fire a 9-10 win regular season coach. Ask Georgia. But that’s the limbo we are stuck in with the recruiting that we have.
To win the SEC we need to recruit at the level of our completion.
Why is that so hard to understand?

Yep even Spurrier during that 2018 KY game told the announcers we needed to get around that top 5 area in recruiting to win championships again with how the SEC is.
 
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Mehhhhh..... Butters inherited quite a bit of REAL talent on defense and some decent talent on offense. Will Grier was obvious but there are several guys from that offense in the NFL. He just didn’t know how to use them. Sidehat got lots out of that defense though. Mullen inherited an absolute mess and stil produced 10 wins. Our BC ratio was way down. He’s started to right that. My biggest concerns remain the same though... he’s not recruiting well enough fast enough and he’s keeping deadweight on staff - same as Butters. At least Champ wasn’t afraid to fire someone.

Mullen's inherited talent in 2018 will probably be clearly better than his 2020 talent next season overall.
 

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Guys, its ok. As long as we lose with class to the dwags and the tigauxs of the world, a beatdown at home to a scrub team like kentucky or mizzu here and there is cool because it proves that the problem isnt recruiting.

I learned that here.
 

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Slevin keeps me on my toes for sure. In the game thread or box he's good with canning the entire staff, then i read the recruiting thread and its the opposite.

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Is anything less than 41-14 considered "competing with" now? The Butters standard of " atleast it wasnt a total blowout by half and at least we scored one offensive TD" like people on this very board argued?

No. And you know this, but are choosing to go down your exaggerated path. Again, going into last year, no one was expecting to be a good team. You were on record as suggesting .500 or less, especially after the 1-1 start. Every week it was, wait "talk to me after the ____ game", beginning the week going into Knoxville, then Msu, then Lsu, etc. Even you acknowledged that most of what he walked into was out of his control and was going to take some time to correct. Suddenly, it should've been completely righted yesterday, despite the 16-3 record to date?

But again, to your question, no that's not the standard going forward. But in a first year or two, we may very well have some lumps, like say...a 45-3 loss to the vols, or 45-30 loss to fsu in 1990...a 31-3 dismantling by Alabama in 2005...and some embarrassing ones that shouldn't happen like say...a 17 point loss to Syracuse in 1991, or defeat at the hands of 7-win Usce in 2005.

If it's happening in year 3 and beyond, that's a problem and I think my reputation of throwing in the towel on a loser precedes me.
 

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Although I struggle to.get past the grammatical issues of "they seen", what the fvkk are you talking about? Dullen never competed with Bammer. 0-8 isnt "competing with." Win some lose some equals competing with.

33-39 in the conference sure as hell isnt competing w anyone except Burp Buliemia. He was .500 ish w Burp and Matt Luke.

Is anything less than 41-14 considered "competing with" now? The Butters standard of " atleast it wasnt a total blowout by half and at least we scored one offensive TD" like people on this very board argued?
I was referring to the one year they actually made a game out of it. I already knew his record was against all of the big 3 in the West. Every single one of the ones not concerned with his recruiting knows what I was meaning. You on other hand along with me was never impressed with what he did at Miss St. We are on the same page about Mullen
 

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I was referring to the one year they actually made a game out of it. I already knew his record was against all of the big 3 in the West. Every single one of the ones not concerned with his recruiting knows what I was meaning. You on other hand along with me was never impressed with what he did at Miss St. We are on the same page about Mullen

And this is where things go off the rails with some of you. If you want to fire him tomorrow, so be it. I don't think he's in any way above criticism through his first year and a half on the job, especially when it comes to recruiting and recruiting staff. But let's be clear. He took arguably the worst school in the SECW that was in absolute disarray at the time and made them competitive immediately, reached the school's first ever(I think) #1 ranking along with several other school-best accomplishments, all while going through an absolute gauntlet every season, playing the eventual NC winner or runner up something like 10 or 12 times. And yes, he never beat Saban, but with Msu talent he had a competitive game with him the Tide a majority of the time, and had our 2009 team on the ropes, going 1-1 against Meyer. As I said, hate him. Hate the offense. Criticize the recruiting. Fire him tomorrow. But saying none of what he did at one of the toughest jobs in the SEC impressed you sounds ridiculous and skews much of your other opinions.
 

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But again, to your question, no that's not the standard going forward. But in a first year or two, we may very well have some lumps, like say...a 45-3 loss to the vols, or 45-30 loss to fsu in 1990...a 31-3 dismantling by Alabama in 2005...and some embarrassing ones that shouldn't happen like say...a 17 point loss to Syracuse in 1991, or defeat at the hands of 7-win Usce in 2005.
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I said last year was a rebuilding year and the record didnt matter, the recruitimg did.

And he pulled a double Butters. (But we give everyone a break for their first class.) And now he has another Butters class lined up again.

Yes, if he were bringing home the top classes in the SEC, landing stud WRs, QBs and RBs most years like SOS and Meyer were doing, Id be fine with occasional problems on the field.

Instead he is bringing home Butterric classes (that are almost immeasurably different and just as fatally unbalanced) and twiddling our way into the next decade of irrelevence.

Ive said it a thousand times, I can tell you the taste of the soup by looking at the ingredients and this is 2 more years of mehhh.
 
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. He took arguably the worst school in the SECW that was in absolute disarray at the time and made them competitive immediately
33-39 isnt competitive.

What the fvkk are you people calling "competitive"? He didnt get blown out some of the time?

You are living in a fantasy land. He got beaten by a directional school at home a few days from being FCS and had one season when he was better than 4-4 in the SEC which damn sure better thank Kintucky and Burp Bielema for that.
 

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Henry Gray commits to Nebraska

Apparently he silently committed to Florida a couple weeks ago, what those coaches were tweeting about, but has since decided on Nebraska. He’s not a good cover corner, but that’s what he wants to play.
 

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33-39 isnt competitive.

What the fvkk are you people calling "competitive"? He didnt get blown out some of the time?

You are living in a fantasy land. He got beaten by a directional school at home a few days from being FCS and had one season when he was better than 4-4 in the SEC which damn sure better thank Kintucky and Burp Bielema for that.
Burp is one of your better nicknames :lol:
 

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Although I struggle to.get past the grammatical issues of "they seen", what the fvkk are you talking about? Dullen never competed with Bammer. 0-8 isnt "competing with." Win some lose some equals competing with.

33-39 in the conference sure as hell isnt competing w anyone except Burp Buliemia. He was .500 ish w Burp and Matt Luke.

Is anything less than 41-14 considered "competing with" now? The Butters standard of " atleast it wasnt a total blowout by half and at least we scored one offensive TD" like people on this very board argued?
Dullen? That’s a poor effort. Please accept you’ll never top Burp and stop this nonsense
 
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