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We’ll see zone a lot as long as Danno M continues to run ~60% of the time, run about 58 plays a game, and we have a QB that isn’t pressuring the defense downfield in the seams and deep middle. Trask being unproven and perhaps likely to throw picks only increases that chance of seeing zone, not the opposite.

Even LSU may play us more zone than most other teams they play, and they are very man heavy.

The one aspect that makes zone less needed is Trask may not run much so the db’s backs turned in man isn’t too concerning. If EJ plays, we may see even more zone or combo D’s with under zones or a spy.


Everything you said here is the complete opposite of why a team will run zone coverage against an offense. You play zone mainly when you don't have the personnel to man up against 4 receivers/TEs that will likely play in the NFL. Not too many teams left on our schedule that can man up 4 across with a safety and not get toasted.
 

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You should be careful not to alienate the few people that agree with you on this board.


I don't seek agreement with people who don't know what they are talking about.

If you want some credibility, go to your local high school and volunteer to be coach instead of typing on a message board. Until then..............
 

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I don't seek agreement with people who don't know what they are talking about.

If you want some credibility, go to your local high school and volunteer to be coach instead of typing on a message board. Until then..............
It was a joke, Bush. Try decaf.
 

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I don't seek agreement with people who don't know what they are talking about.

If you want some credibility, go to your local high school and volunteer to be coach instead of typing on a message board. Until then..............

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Everything you said here is the complete opposite of why a team will run zone coverage against an offense. You play zone mainly when you don't have the personnel to man up against 4 receivers/TEs that will likely play in the NFL. Not too many teams left on our schedule that can man up 4 across with a safety and not get toasted.

We are running QB so often and may have a QB who can't pick up complicated zones because he has never played against any (I doubt they ran much zone blitz or combo defenses in pee wee or middle school), then no, my post is not the opposite of why you might play zone. Rather than having your safeties and corners/nickel with their backs to the line of scrimmage due to our 4 9 routes when we are going to run the ball at them 60% of the time, particularly with this qb, you may want your db's facing the play.

It's ok, I'll see if our local HS needs more volunteers and send your name in case they need someone to argue over a non-dispute at staff meetings.
 

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I don't seek agreement with people who don't know what they are talking about.

If you want some credibility, go to your local high school and volunteer to be coach instead of typing on a message board. Until then..............
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There is a lot of "analysis" and optimism in this thread with some predictable pot-stirring by the board owner. I guess Ox is still trying to figure out how to make up for Law's declining post numbers. Welcome back by the way, Big Fella. It was a long 10 minutes without you.

And I, too, worry about Alex. There was a time when no one could touch him. He'd especially lay waste to leftist knuckleheads in the PF. He is a mere shell of his former self. I hope he snaps out of his recent funk soon.

Here's the bottom line on Trask. He rode the pine in high school which led to a pathetic offer list and hasn't been able to see the field much here, even though Franks' play has been inconsistent at best. Worse, and here's is the critical part, our OL has been awful run blocking so far this year. Add to that Mullen's offense only really works when there's a QB that can run the ball and worse, it has only worked really well when there have been generational players involved (see: Tebow, Tim and Harvin, Percy) or very good players like Dak running the show. And though he might be considered today's "QB guru", I have very little faith that Mullen can pluck a QB off the reclamation heap and polish him into a diamond the way SOS did with Shane. This offense just doesn't lend itself to that, especially with a QB that can't run and a crappy OL.

Summing it all up: we have a fairly immobile QB that we can charitably call "unproven" who hasn't been able to crack the starting lineup, well, anywhere, running an offense designed for running QBs playing behind a pretty bad OL whose terrible performance so far this year has strangled our running attack.

So there's a lot of evidence that says we might really struggle as we enter the meat of our schedule.

I hope I'm wrong. Maybe sprinkling EJ in will help. Maybe the Trask we saw last Saturday is the real Trask: a hidden gem that will step up and shine now that the light is squarely on him. Maybe the OL will miraculously snap into shape and our running game takes flight. Lotsa maybes in there. But I think we might be in for a white knuckle ride to a 3-4 loss season.
 
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We are running QB so often and may have a QB who can't pick up complicated zones because he has never played against any (I doubt they ran much zone blitz or combo defenses in pee wee or middle school), then no, my post is not the opposite of why you might play zone. Rather than having your safeties and corners/nickel with their backs to the line of scrimmage due to our 4 9 routes when we are going to run the ball at them 60% of the time, particularly with this qb, you may want your db's facing the play.

It's ok, I'll see if our local HS needs more volunteers and send your name in case they need someone to argue over a non-dispute at staff meetings.


You simply are ignorant. You can play man and keep you front to the qb long enough to determine run or pass. But you sound like every other dumbass on a message board that thinks man is lining up press an jamming on the line, which could also be zone coverage.

I have 2 state title rings that prove I know what I am talking about and I have a job as a DC on Friday night. You might try chk out the local rec league and get some experience. It's obvious you have none.
 

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You simply are ignorant. You can play man and keep you front to the qb long enough to determine run or pass. But you sound like every other dumbass on a message board that thinks man is lining up press an jamming on the line, which could also be zone coverage.
Sabanesque (and the zillion variations now) zones are so different than what we grew up with, which for me was Woody Hayeseque just keep it in front of you zone. I agree w you completely.

That being said, some run zone bc they are conservative and thats what they run, some run zone bc they are expecting or are more concerned about a run/draw whatever, some run zone bc they cant matchup to play man, some play soft zone bc it is third and granthem and they just want to keep ot in front of them etc. Many reasons.
 

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You simply are ignorant. You can play man and keep you front to the qb long enough to determine run or pass. But you sound like every other dumbass on a message board that thinks man is lining up press an jamming on the line, which could also be zone coverage.

I have 2 state title rings that prove I know what I am talking about and I have a job as a DC on Friday night. You might try chk out the local rec league and get some experience. It's obvious you have none.
A lot of people here are allergic to informed opinions and viewpoints. It's a strange place.
 

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He'll make a few mistakes, due to lack of actual game experience, but he's going to turn some heads and get a shot at making a roster on the next level. He's got the physical tools and seems sharp enough to continue learning.
 

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Bushmaster will claim he’s got a Super Bowl ring next. Keep rattling his chains, he’ll eventually be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. :lol:
 

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