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NC State will never be allowed to leave the rest of the Carolina crew.

Tech had a chance between the time A&M joined and the SEC settled on Mizzy, they didn't take it.

Now that we know super conferences aren't happening, it's time to kick teams out, Mizzy was a mistake and only joined when the big 10 said no to them, Vandy should also be gone but instead I'd go with booting one of the Missy schools, they are academic waste lands and it's silly to have 2 schools in that state.

Going back to 12 teams makes the schedule rotation a lot better.
 

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As for the conference expanding - and we are not kicking anyone out - the two 400 lb gorillas in the room are Texas and Oklahoma. When the next wave comes, I doubt the Big 12 survives in its current iteration. Would those two schools come east to us, or go west to the Pac 12 (which almost happened in the last round of realignment)? Does the Big 10 get aggressive again and scoop them up? Are OU and Okie State a package deal?

Think of how brutal the conference would be if UT and OU were added to the West and Bammer and Barn moved the East....
CFP would have to expand to 8. SEC would have 2-4 every year
 

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Look at the little quitter snowflake get all triggered. My, my, my.

Kentucky
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

There you have it, the teams from the SEC that UCF is ranked ahead of by writers and the coaches -- you know, the idiot coaches.

Do I need to post the last two seasons, too?

They're even ranked ahead of A&M in the AP Poll.

Do us all a favor. Go back to your garage like a good little boy.
Donk has a point - don’t be an idiot. UCF doesn’t have to worry about things like “second string talent”. They’re pretty sharp on the first team and their second team is on par with most of their competitions in the AAC. That flips in the SEC - their first string may be as talented as some of their competition’s but their second string isn’t even in the same ballpark. Any attrition - at all - and they’re sunk. They might be an 8 win team - at best - as currently constructed in the SEC.
 

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Only concern about Tech is that time may have passed them by. No more Beamer. Been trash ever since. And its not like Blacksburg is a great place to be - UVA is currently on the upswing in football and a power in bball/baseball. Better place to go too.
UVA would be fine too...I know Charlottesville is awesome and as long as they continue the upswing in Football their academics and other sports are awesome as well
 

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I’ve said it before. My opinion is to not expand the conference, but downsize it. Make it a 10 team conference where you play every team, plus 3 OOC teams. Name the conference winner, and go right into the NCAA playoffs. It’s going to expand to 6-8 teams anyway.
 

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I’ve said it before. My opinion is to not expand the conference, but downsize it. Make it a 10 team conference where you play every team, plus 3 OOC teams. Name the conference winner, and go right into the NCAA playoffs. It’s going to expand to 6-8 teams anyway.
Not a bad idea. Who gets kicked out?
 

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I don’t disagree. I just like the “Southernness” of the conference. Adding in Austin or Norman does nothing to further that. TAMU was iffy enough and Mizzou just plain don’t fit. Not looking for additional interlopers.
Mizzu was unfortunate, we wanted Texas, Okie and Okie State (apparently a package deal). Mizzu brings two major cities though, and ad revenue $ but .... none of the other options were ever even an actual consideration.
 

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Central Fla is exactly where they belong, in CUSA 2.0 playing other directional schools.
 

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Donk has a point - don’t be an idiot. UCF doesn’t have to worry about things like “second string talent”. They’re pretty sharp on the first team and their second team is on par with most of their competitions in the AAC. That flips in the SEC - their first string may be as talented as some of their competition’s but their second string isn’t even in the same ballpark. Any attrition - at all - and they’re sunk. They might be an 8 win team - at best - as currently constructed in the SEC.
At eight wins they'd be right in the middle of the pack, no? I didn't say they'd win the division. I didn't say I was happy to say what I said. I stated a belief backed by a ton of facts. They can beat half the teams of the SEC. I believe they could.

You just helped make my point.

BTW, Law spent much of his undergrad time on the UCF campus. He's got Knights penants all over that glorious garage of his. I'd recommend you not ride his schlong too hard.
 

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Central is just another community college.
 

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I hate that that particularly crappy rivalry game is the only thing stopping a common sense divisional realignment that every other team in the league would like. I mean seriously - how stupid is that? Maybe if Tennessee continues to embrace its identity as Vandy-East, the league will finally admit that that game isn’t worth keeping. Like they did with Auburn and Florida (and that still rubs me the wrong way - both teams were still considered high caliber when the shift was made - why is it ok to chop the conference’s oldest rivalry but not a dying one between a giant and a has been?).

I believe UGA/Barn is the south’s oldest rivalry
 

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Central is just another community college.
So you did the pay-for-play thing at Levin? Cool. You know, you can buy one of those law diplomas online already framed.
 

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Vandy would win the UCF conference every year. It's ridiculous to suggest that UCF would have any success in the SEC considering they are what? 2-10 versus P5 schools. And not very good P5 schools at that. UCF is a bowl loss away from being a forgotten forever.
 

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If we’re strictly talking football, Virginia Tech is in no way, shape, or form the stepchild to UVA. Even academically it’s a great school (although not quite on UVA’s level). And I’m saying that at someone who deeply hates Tech.

Not talking about football at all. UVA would never leave the ACC. I'm talking as a university. I live in Virginia and there's a 'snobery' to UVA (more elitist). They are happy in the ACC and did not really welcome Va Tech to the ACC....and honestly I think UVA would be happy to see VT leave. IMO, VT would be a great addition to the SEC - plus, as mentioned earlier, it gives the SEC footprint in the state and the DMV (DC area).
 

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Not talking about football at all. UVA would never leave the ACC. I'm talking as a university. I live in Virginia and there's a 'snobery' to UVA (more elitist). They are happy in the ACC and did not really welcome Va Tech to the ACC....and honestly I think UVA would be happy to see VT leave. IMO, VT would be a great addition to the SEC - plus, as mentioned earlier, it gives the SEC footprint in the state and the DMV (DC area).
I grew up in VA, they definitely don’t like each other. It would be nice if UVA finally broke the losing streak to Tech this year.
 

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I grew up in VA, they definitely don’t like each other. It would be nice if UVA finally broke the losing streak to Tech this year.

I've been here 11 years. I was really shocked the first time I went to a sports bar when a VT game was on. Packed. I'm really surprised Fuente has been a failure (for the most part). Curious how long they'll give him. Mendenhall is doing a good job at UVA. One of my buddies played DE at Oregon State in the late 90's and Mendenhall was his position coach.
 

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I’ve said it before. My opinion is to not expand the conference, but downsize it. Make it a 10 team conference where you play every team, plus 3 OOC teams. Name the conference winner, and go right into the NCAA playoffs. It’s going to expand to 6-8 teams anyway.

10 teams is too small. Maybe downsize to 12 if we truly are waiting on Oklahoma and Texas or Okie State. Personally I don’t see Texas joining the SEC. Seems like the Longhorn Network would be a huge hurdle for both sides to get over.

If you want to talk about chopping 2 and adding 2 simultaneously at this time, maybe dump either Arky or Missy State and then dump Missouri while adding in VA Tech and UVA and figure out which current team to shift to the West (maybe Vandy or Tennessee). I think it’s highly unlikely that NC State is leaving the ACC. They are 30 minutes away from Duke & UNC so it wouldn’t make any sense to leave the conference for a host of reasons. I also seriously doubt we’re dumping any schools in the near future so fcvk it, just disregard my ramblings.
 

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