Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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Zero percent chance we get him with that roster of schools after him. If you were a WR in the south right now, where would you go? Clemson, LSU, and Bama all look pretty darn good to me. I could see a kid coming here over UGA though. That offense is boring for everyone but OL and running backs. Maybe TEs.

On the positive side, if there was ever a good Mullenzes season to recruit WRs who actually want to catch, this season is it. We can actually showcase that we have passed more this year than we have done in the past decade. We have a plethora of WRs and they are somehow all getting catches. The Trask train is going strong.
 

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But seriously, what is he even talking about?
Trying to say that folks who focus on stars are going to view this kid as better now that he’s getting a ratings bump. Sort of a passive aggressive way of saying trust the coaches.
 

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I'd like to see at least 2 4-stars+ in each class. There's usually only around 350 4-stars, very few are OL's. So I'm fine w/ some 3-stars (even UGA, Alabama, etc take 3-star OLs). We just need to get them on campus. If we can have 16, 17 OLs w/ 12+ being non-true freshman the odds of 7 or 8 of them panning out are much higher. Butters signed 2 in one class and only one is left (TJ Moore) and he's been a bust. You can't have classes with only 2 OLs! (same w/ the DL, like our last two classes - inexcusable). This is the SEC, "a line of scrimmage league"!!
I’ll have to find it but I’m pretty sure MSU had either 4 or 5 4 stars starting on their line when we played them in 18. Point is - I know Mullen sees the importance but why can’t he get them here?!?
 

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Trying to say that folks who focus on stars are going to view this kid as better now that he’s getting a ratings bump. Sort of a passive aggressive way of saying trust the coaches.

Ahhh.... The ole "trust the coaches" poster. These types trusted the coaches (Butters and McElwain) all the way to a 4 win season....TWICE!!!
 

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Ahhh.... The ole "trust the coaches" poster. These types trusted the coaches (Butters and McElwain) all the way to a 4 win season....TWICE!!!
Yes and Trask is the poster child for that argument now. That’s the drawback to his success- lots of gator fans (other sites) I’ve seen fall back on his success to prove that coaches know what they’re doing all along. Never mind that he’s completely unique.
 

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Yes and Trask is the poster child for that argument now. That’s the drawback to his success- lots of gator fans (other sites) I’ve seen fall back on his success to prove that coaches know what they’re doing all along. Never mind that he’s completely unique.
and that butters and chump are completely horrific.
 

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But seriously, what is he even talking about?
You seriously can't figure it out? This board recently celebrated the potential improved ratings of some of our commitments. I am asking "Why the celebration?" It does not change the actual ability of the players and it does bring increased attention and more vigorous recruiting from other schools. It boggles the mind that you find this difficult to comprehend. I do understand that posters who are more interested in highly ranked recruiting classes than they are in winning teams find it difficult to admit that there is a role for evaluation, development, and coaching in winning football. This, of course, leads to more interest in how players are rated than in how they actually play.
Or, maybe as CB says it is just my mind wandering. Listening to your responses, I am just glad that I have a mind to wander.
 

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Yes and Trask is the poster child for that argument now. That’s the drawback to his success- lots of gator fans (other sites) I’ve seen fall back on his success to prove that coaches know what they’re doing all along. Never mind that he’s completely unique.
Yes and no on Trask.

If you go with the "trust the coaches" argument, then you wonder wtf Franks was ever doing starting over Trask, the only exception being that Franks does run better and has a stronger arm, but Trask(so far) checks every other box.
 

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You seriously can't figure it out? This board recently celebrated the potential improved ratings of some of our commitments. I am asking "Why the celebration?" It does not change the actual ability of the players and it does bring increased attention and more vigorous recruiting from other schools. It boggles the mind that you find this difficult to comprehend. I do understand that posters who are more interested in highly ranked recruiting classes than they are in winning teams find it difficult to admit that there is a role for evaluation, development, and coaching in winning football. This, of course, leads to more interest in how players are rated than in how they actually play.
Or, maybe as CB says it is just my mind wandering. Listening to your responses, I am just glad that I have a mind to wander.

AR, I get it....stars don't always matter...but overall they do. I'm not going to rehash the reasons why, but I think 99.999% of us would take Clemson't class over ours 8 days a week.

Why it matters to me, not only from getting better players, is one reason: perception. There is an ugly perception out there about UF right now among recruits (some of it is warranted, such as the dorms and facilities). Once we start landing a few higher ranked kids (like Xzavier Henderson) other higher ranked kids take notice - just look at the visitors lists at the top schools right now. Getting kids with more 'stars' will bring in other kids with more 'stars' which leads to a better roster, overall.

But it is nice to see Clemson evaluated Johnson highly, shows Gray has an eye for talent.
 
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Didn't say a word about trusting the coaches. I just said there is no reason to celebrate a bump in a rating for our committments. But, apparently, that is enough to trigger some into flights of delusion.
 

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Didn't say a word about trusting the coaches. I just said there is no reason to celebrate a bump in a rating for our committments. But, apparently, that is enough to trigger some into flights of delusion.
Sure there is. It’s confirmation from unbiased sources (supposedly) that our coaches did a good job of evaluating talent. Or in this case, evaluating it before others.
 

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Didn't say a word about trusting the coaches. I just said there is no reason to celebrate a bump in a rating for our committments. But, apparently, that is enough to trigger some into flights of delusion.

Yes, there's plenty of reasons to celebrate a bump in the ratings...but again, perception is a big reason. Now, everyone out there is seeing "Clemson offers 2020 UF commit Tra'vez Johnson". They are seeing that Clemson wants one of our guys. Plus it gives our class a small boost, which again helps w/ perception.
 

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I just said there is no reason to celebrate a bump in a rating for our committments.
yeah there is. did you ever stop to think for 1 single second between all your hand wringing over stars, that a recruiting bump could actually possibly mean a kid has improved his game?

good lord man.
 

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Yes, there's plenty of reasons to celebrate a bump in the ratings...but again, perception is a big reason. Now, everyone out there is seeing "Clemson offers 2020 UF commit Tra'vez Johnson". They are seeing that Clemson wants one of our guys. Plus it gives our class a small boost, which again helps w/ perception.
My point exactly. You care about perception: I care about reality.
 
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