Gator Basketball Gators squeak by FCS powerhouse Towson with late rally

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A month from now no one will care that we only won by 6.
 

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What bothers me is our tendency just like last year when a big grabs a defensive rebound and flips it to a guard who then dribbles across the midline in the corner and scratches crabs until all players are down court and standing around. Why not drive hell bent to the basket, attract the defenders and either make the slashing play or the pass to the wing. that man can shoot an uncontested three or hit another slasher who is by then flying to the basket. If that situation doesn't present itself he can stand around and scratch crabs until everyone is set up and start a set play. Maybe Lee or someone can explain why this is a bad approach.
 

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What bothers me is our tendency just like last year when a big grabs a defensive rebound and flips it to a guard who then dribbles across the midline in the corner and scratches crabs until all players are down court and standing around. Why not drive hell bent to the basket, attract the defenders and either make the slashing play or the pass to the wing. that man can shoot an uncontested three or hit another slasher who is by then flying to the basket. If that situation doesn't present itself he can stand around and scratch crabs until everyone is set up and start a set play. Maybe Lee or someone can explain why this is a bad approach.
I said it last night in the box, we’ve only had a tiny handful of transition baskets so far this year. It’s infuriating.
 

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Hard to win against good teams when you get almost no fast break points or easy baskets of any kind. Every possession is a grind that usually ends up in a tough, challenged shot. With our depth this year I thought we would be pressing more, trying to force the action and create turnovers.
 

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Was only able to catch the last 8min. I freaked out when I tuned in and saw the score.

Observations from a non-player:
  1. I actually saw movement with the offense. Still some standing around in the corners after movement, but movement to start the play.
  2. I see why people love Lewis. It'll be fun season with him, hope we get more than one season out of him.
  3. Kennedy announcing grates my cheese, but he pointed out some of the offensive adjustments once a defense was recognized (by the players? by the coach? idunno)
  4. Towson showed me better defense, and better offensive movement, just missed more shots down the end.
  5. I didn't see any of Omar, but hear good things (in this thread, and from the announcers)...I just didn't see it in those last 8 min.
  6. I wonder if the lack of pressing the fastbreak is more of White wanting them to use these games to develop their half court game? With the expectation that our talent can seize and run with fastbreak opportunities later but have to have this half-court offense down better because we aren't a fastbreak team in general? Idunno.


I do think it's still early and the team is trying to gel, so I'm ok with not looking polished. Even the 04's needed 2y to gel.
 

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That's 5 minutes too many. And I was talking about Payne taking Johnson's spot, not KBJs. I know it is unlikely as KJ is playing well. I just love Payne's game.
Payne is averaging 6 PTs and 5 RBs on just 13 minutes/game, and shooting over 70%. He is what he is, a rebounder/dunker, but pretty solid #s for a true Freshman so far.
Omar Payne - Men's Basketball - Florida Gators
 

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A month from now no one will care that we only won by 6.
I guess you counting on sea level rises or UGAY losing to A&M and Barn? Hoping for that sort of distraction? This team in NOT good right now and that's against inferior teams. Wait till we have to deal with SEC play.
 

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I guess you counting on sea level rises or UGAY losing to A&M and Barn? Hoping for that sort of distraction? This team in NOT good right now and that's against inferior teams. Wait till we have to deal with SEC play.

I'm sure Coach Mike "wait til 10 seconds to run the offense" White will come up with something once we get into SEC play. Maybe he'll tell them to run the offense with 12 seconds to go. :cry2:
 

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The optimist in me says that the team pulled through on an off night when the other team was making uncharacteristic shots and having their best night. That will happen and winning this type of game early gives us confidence and experience when the stakes are higher in a conference game on the road.

The pessimist in me says that this was piss-poor focus from a team that had 5x the talent as their opponents and should have blown the doors off the building...especially coming off a loss. White has a LOT to answer for when we struggle this much after a top 5 recruiting class with an All-American caliber big transfer AND we returned several starters and key performers from last year's team (Nembhard, Locke, and KJ...but even Bassett can be useful and is good bench cover).

The realist in me says this team is gelling and should be better as the season goes on as the parts start coming together.

It’s not talent. It’s coaching. White sucks.

Everybody that he has brought in who has been good offensively has turned to dog crap. Every year he has been here.

The guy is just a bad coach.
 

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It’s not talent. It’s coaching. White sucks.

Everybody that he has brought in who has been good offensively has turned to dog crap. Every year he has been here.

The guy is just a bad coach.


Bingo! Slow white boy point guard win with defense only personality. Similar to Napoleon complex....
 

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How in the world did White get these high rated freshmen to sign on with him??
Hate it if he dulls their natural abilities?
 

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It’s not talent. It’s coaching. White sucks.

Everybody that he has brought in who has been good offensively has turned to dog crap. Every year he has been here.

The guy is just a bad coach.

I'm a bit more measured: a LOT of our problems stem from our guys missing wide-open looks. Kick-out 3s to wide-open guys are being missed at an alarming rate this year...and I've lost count of how many times Nembhard and a few others have slashed to the rim and missed the bucket (whether or not a foul was called). Even then, there's an appreciable amount of foul shots we've been missing.

Again: White has a LOT to answer for. We should be better than out record and eye test shows, based on who we returned and who we added. I expect more and if we aren't an Elite 8 team at the end of the year, then White needs to be reevaluated. On present evidence, I'm as concerned as you are.
 

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I'm a bit more measured: a LOT of our problems stem from our guys missing wide-open looks. Kick-out 3s to wide-open guys are being missed at an alarming rate this year...and I've lost count of how many times Nembhard and a few others have slashed to the rim and missed the bucket (whether or not a foul was called). Even then, there's an appreciable amount of foul shots we've been missing.

Again: White has a LOT to answer for. We should be better than out record and eye test shows, based on who we returned and who we added. I expect more and if we aren't an Elite 8 team at the end of the year, then White needs to be reevaluated. On present evidence, I'm as concerned as you are.

It has everything to do with practice. And scheme. These guys are all able to shoot in high school and come here and suck.
Hell when he took over for BD, we hadguys who could shoot and the following year couldn’t shoot anymore.

He is the Muschamp of our b-ball program.

Loves defense. Hates offense. Good recruiter with unbalanced classes.
 

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It has everything to do with practice. And scheme. These guys are all able to shoot in high school and come here and suck.
Hell when he took over for BD, we hadguys who could shoot and the following year couldn’t shoot anymore.

He is the Muschamp of our b-ball program.

Loves defense. Hates offense. Good recruiter with unbalanced classes.

We're mostly in agreement; though I have to say this year was pretty balanced in terms of elite talent and depth at multiple positions.
 

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We're mostly in agreement; though I have to say this year was pretty balanced in terms of elite talent and depth at multiple positions.

I should have been more specific. This class was good. But like Muschamp, one class will meet needs. Then the next will be full of holes/suck. The inconsistencies and uneven recruiting lead to unbalanced classes/teams/years.
 

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I should have been more specific. This class was good. But like Muschamp, one class will meet needs. Then the next will be full of holes/suck. The inconsistencies and uneven recruiting lead to unbalanced classes/teams/years.

Respectfully, I would absolutely agree that was Muschump's biggest flaw here...but that's also why I thought White had done such a good job here. We have 4-6 bigs for 2 positions (Blackshear, Payne, Bassett, Jibotah, Gak...and KJ); have Lewis, Mann, Nembhard, Locke...and Glover. And he's bringing in several guys for next year too.

That's pretty balanced and impressive depth. White's recruiting isn't an issue for me: it's his coaching.

Muschump could recruit lots of defensive 5*s...he couldn't recruit but 1-2 offensive guys. That's not the case for White's classes IMO.
 

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I guess you counting on sea level rises or UGAY losing to A&M and Barn? Hoping for that sort of distraction? This team in NOT good right now and that's against inferior teams. Wait till we have to deal with SEC play.

Obviously you are not a soothsayer.
 

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