Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Missouri

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Thoughts on the game

1. I mentioned this in another thread. But, why do we run the ball much better when EJ is in versus Trask? I'm not sure the o-line is as bad at run blocking as we think. Could it be that Mullen has not adjusted his offense? Just a thought.

2. I hate to beat up on the guy, but how is a safety size guy in Diabate so much more physical than Moon? He is a better pass rusher for sure.

3. It is arguable that Elam is playing the best of our corners right now. Another stud CB from DBU.

4. We finally threw a jump ball to our 5 star, 6'5 receiver. I think it is the first one this year. Why?

5. I'm going off memory, but did Slaton have his best game as a gator? I hope he's figured some things out. He has the ability. His problem is between the ears.
 

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I think it depends on 2 things. One is the defense has to play each QB differently, they can flow hard towards the Rb knowing Trask isnt going anywhere while with Emory one missed step and he's gone for a big run. Two, When you see Heggie in the game or when we run a sweep towards Delance's side, its not going far. They are pretty bad. I almost had a glimmer of hope when I saw Gouriage at RT yesterday for a few plays but that left Heggie at Guard so.. yeah.
 

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The only exception I could take to your customarily excellent take was the "resilient if nothing else" comment about Trask. IMO, he is a good deal more than merely resilient, especially when viewed against the backdrop of near total misery that has characterized QB play at UF for the last decade. Just saying.
No slight toward Trask intended. Just a cliche to point out his ability to turn the page (sorry, another cliche) when some things don't go just right. The fact that he is where he is now while considering his prior football experiences is quite remarkable. It tells you a lot about what he's made of.
 

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No slight toward Trask intended. Just a cliche to point out his ability to turn the page (sorry, another cliche) when some things don't go just right. The fact that he is where he is now while considering his prior football experiences is quite remarkable. It tells you a lot about what he's made of.
Thank you for your amplification. I particularly appreciate your tip of the Stetson to the young man's character - I couldn't agree more. You are without a doubt one of the most astute and gentlemanly posters on this or any other Gator board, and I enjoy your input greatly.
 

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Among the story lines for our game against SECE opponent (and recent nemesis) Missouri, the quest for a 10th win and an upswing heading into the regular season finale against rival and now bowl eligible F$U had to garner top billing. For some, the lingering disappointment of losses to UGA and LSU took a little shine off of the penny. But there has to be merit in finishing the drill, especially if we are in fact a program climbing back toward the top. 10 wins with a chance for 11 isn't quite as sporty as it was prior to the CFP, but some credit is deserved for a team on the cusp of this mark that has positioned themselves with a very one-dimensional offense. Beside that, pride should never go out of style, should it?

Of course it would be boorish for us to look past the always tough Tigers, led by regarded Clemson transfer Kelly Bryant. As feared, Mizzou gave us fits in the first half, sacking Trask several times (4 according to Mick) and stymying the rush (to nobody's surprise) with 5 tackles for loss. Their coverage game was better than imagined. As a result, our normally potent air attack was nulled and the half ended with us only having scored 2 FGs. On the bright side, the D and Greenard (6 tackles and 2 sacks, several pressures) was effective against Bryant and the Tiger's offense, limiting them to a bank shot FG. It wasn't much of a lead, but if you believe in the power of stats, Mizzou doesn't win when trailing at the half. Still, it might have been hard to find any comfort knowing that bit of info.

The second half was different for the offense. Trask, while still pressured, was able to find Hammonds and Perine in the left corner of the end zone on two drives and like that we had a two score lead. The defense kept the pressure on Bryant and stuffed the run (Missouri finished the game with 52 rushing yards), surrendering only a FG. The game ended 23-6 and the specter of past failings against the Tigers was vanquished. Still two more boxes to check on the amended goal sheet.

*Trask is resilient if nothing else. He looked to be able to shake off the sacks and pressures of the touchdown bereft first half and led us to a couple of scores that would be more than enough to secure win #10. For the day he was 23/35 for 282 yards. If there's a knock on his performance, it would be two telegraphed throws that should have been picks. Luckily they weren't and his effectiveness and leadership remains a season bright spot.

*The ball was distributed to 9 different receivers, led by Jefferson's 5 catches. This group is consistently good. Among the highlights were the two TD receptions by Hammonds and Perine respectively. There should have been a third by Toney on a nice toss by Trask, but unfortunately he couldn't hang on to it. Still a little rust I guess. Grimes' penalties were disappointing and out of character. Hope it was just an anomaly.

*EJ was our leading rusher (39 yards I believe) while Perine, Pierce, and Davis combined for less. Our team total was 58 for the game. Obviously the sacks allowed affected this total, but even adding these lost 17, we were still well below a hundred. Our offense could easily play the part of the mysterious one-armed man in the old David Jansen series "The Fugitive."

*While on the subject of EJ, there is some concern that if he doesn't get more meaningful snaps, he'll bolt for greener pastures. Could definitely present problems, but Trask is the guy. While I doubt he would be offended sharing more snaps, I don't think Mullen will risk disturbing the established rhythm much more than what we see. I do think EJ's primary value is running the ball, but he was able to throw a nice ball to Toney today, so who knows what the next two games might hold in this regard.

*We all know that it was Mizzou and not UGA or LSU, but Dr. Pressure had a good plan and we had a consistent and effective rush today against a pretty talented QB. Would have liked to have seen more than the 2 sacks registered, but the guy was pretty slippery. We covered well enough and kept them out of the end zone. Wilson's late INT was a nice cherry. As mentioned, we stopped the run and were pretty good against them on 3rd downs. Similar execution against better opponents is a goal moving forward.

*Wasn't it nice to be on the positive side of the official reviews?

*My blood pressure has been pretty stable lately, so I won't talk about the OL. Anyhow, my cuss jar is overflowing, so...

It seems that the local Nole faithful, despite the reported rebuff from Coach Stoops the elder, are feeling some better about their Taggart-less renegades under the guidance of long-time assistant and now aspiring HC Odell Haggins. To be sure, they'll be better than if WiLLLLLLLie was still in charge, but if we execute our offensive and defensive plans and don't allow turnovers to become a factor, we will be able to take care of business. Regardless of how disappointed we are with our lot this season or how bad we think the F$U program is, this game is always played, as Johnny Ringo might say, "for blood!" No looking past. No let down. We are their Huckleberries. Let's get it done.

Go Gators!

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Nice job as usual Cover. Liked the arhythmic reference and I know the feeling especially in the first half. Didn't think you were channeling your inner Annie Lennox. LOL. Speaking of Annie's, Zuniga is doing his Anne Heche impersonation. "he's in , he's out". Guess he is resting for the combine. Love watching 58 play and am sorry we only had him for one year. Now on to the Semi's and it appears that we will not have a walk over. I am sure both teams will be ready to play.
 

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5. I'm going off memory, but did Slaton have his best game as a gator? I hope he's figured some things out. He has the ability. His problem is between the ears.

Well, tell him to pin his ears back.

There are no other boards, at least in my mind. And if I find out one of my members is cheating on us, there will be hell to pay.

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Nice job as usual Cover. Liked the arhythmic reference and I know the feeling especially in the first half. Didn't think you were channeling your inner Annie Lennox. LOL. Speaking of Annie's, Zuniga is doing his Anne Heche impersonation. "he's in , he's out". Guess he is resting for the combine. Love watching 58 play and am sorry we only had him for one year. Now on to the Semi's and it appears that we will not have a walk over. I am sure both teams will be ready to play.
Thanks NVA. I try to be real if a little reserved. I wish we were a tad better in several phases, but I'm not totally displeased at what we've done with our roster, choppy play calling from time to time notwithstanding. Would I lie to you?
 

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Thanks NVA. I try to be real if a little reserved. I wish we were a tad better in several phases, but I'm not totally displeased at what we've done with our roster, choppy play calling from time to time notwithstanding. Would I lie to you?
How do you feel about STs? Seems like we’ve decided to deprioritize it. No creativity, no risk taking, poor return blocking when we do...
 

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I guess now's the time to tell you that several of us have been courted by swamp gas, and are considering signing new free agent contracts.
Please tell me you are one of those people.

That would be like someone swooping in in 2016 and hiring Butters away from UF with a huge contract.
 

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I may have missed this on previous posts, but It looked like moving Marco to the Star paid off. He made a couple of nice plays early and without seeing the whole field on the broadcast, I suspect that he had a solid game. Plus it looked like Elam was solid at corner. I know that we have debated how some DB's appeared to be playing out of position and the negative impact it had. After seeing Wilson and Elam play Saturday wouldn't it have been a good decision to make these moves before the UGA game? Could have made a difference . BTW I realize Marco was at Star against Vandy but Missouri actually had a QB that could test our secondary.
 
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How do you feel about STs? Seems like we’ve decided to deprioritize it. No creativity, no risk taking, poor return blocking when we do...
Punt return hasn't been much of a threat, but Swain is pretty sure-handed and at least he usually keeps us from losing yardage on the FC's. The KO return rule has pretty much neutered this part of the game and most teams can kick it through the end zone, making it risky to bring it out. I can't say I'm overly impressed with the blocking/schemes on either return teams. If we aren't going to try to block the punt, then we should have a better plan for return blocking. What we do almost makes you think we're defending against a fake.

The cover teams look better in comparison. Townsend is pretty sporty and we rarely have one returned.and have gotten several pens. The punt fake worked well until we converted some, but it's out there and not of much use lately. Kick cover is usually pretty fair, though MacPherson doesn't always get a touch back. We have a lot of hustle usually. I make a point to watch Pierce and he is usually among the first to the ball or down the field. All the cover teams are a pride thing and we look to emphasize that. We could get more out of the return teams, particularly PR, but as long as they don't hurt us, I won't complain too much. Got other areas that need more attention I suppose.
 

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