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Muschamp fired Jeff Dillman (S&C coach).

 

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So if they're letting him make staff changes, they clearly aren't going to fire him. :lmao2:

It's unbelievable. I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but it's gotta be the buyout. This is the same thing Foley did, avoiding the inevitable. Even if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 next year, then what? Do you just settle for mediocrity? Maybe SC has resigned themselves to being a 6, 7 win program and 8 or 9 wins is a good year?
 

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It's unbelievable. I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but it's gotta be the buyout. This is the same thing Foley did, avoiding the inevitable. Even if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 next year, then what? Do you just settle for mediocrity? Maybe SC has resigned themselves to being a 6, 7 win program and 8 or 9 wins is a good year?
But the buyout is just the rest of the contract that he'd be owed from the time he was fired. So if they pay him another year's worth of salary, the overall amount they'd pay to fire him next year would still be the same, wouldn't it?
 

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But the buyout is just the rest of the contract that he'd be owed from the time he was fired. So if they pay him another year's worth of salary, the overall amount they'd pay to fire him next year would still be the same, wouldn't it?

From an article in Sept:

The total sum of Muschamp’s contract, including this season, is $29.4 million. Seventy-five percent of that total is $22.05 million, which is what would be owed to Muschamp if he’s terminated before December 31, 2019. If he’s terminated effective January 1, he would be owed $18.75 million as a buyout.


The number would drop as follows:
If terminated on Jan. 1, 2021: $15.3 million
If terminated on Jan. 1, 2022: $11.7 million
If terminated on Jan. 1, 2023: $7.95 million
If terminated on Jan. 1, 2024: $4.05 million

EDIT: he got $6.3 million from his UF buyout
 

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But the buyout is just the rest of the contract that he'd be owed from the time he was fired. So if they pay him another year's worth of salary, the overall amount they'd pay to fire him next year would still be the same, wouldn't it?

Yes, that’s my understanding, which makes it ridiculous not to fire him. Assuming we’re correct on that point, basically the difference between firing him now and firing him in a year is one year’s salary, so $5-$6m (or whatever he gets paid). I guess they could let the contract run its’ full term but that seems untenable.
 

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@PeteThamel: Source: Texas has fired defensive coordinator Todd Orlando.
 

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But the buyout is just the rest of the contract that he'd be owed from the time he was fired.
The buyout is usually a fraction of the remainder, and that fraction gets lower each year.

However, obviously they get stuck paying for Chump and the next guy.
 

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Yes, that’s my understanding, which makes it ridiculous not to fire him. Assuming we’re correct on that point, basically the difference between firing him now and firing him in a year is one year’s salary, so $5-$6m (or whatever he gets paid). I guess they could let the contract run its’ full term but that seems untenable.
The problem is you stack another couple million to pay off his staff, plus salaries for the staff and potential buyout money to hire someone away from elsewhere. It’s a monumental expense and I cannot understand why all these schools continue to put themselves in this situation.
 

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Muschamp fired Jeff Dillman (S&C coach).



The problem with this is no good candidate (be it S&C, OC, Receivers Coach, etc.) is going to want to take an open position there knowing the HC is a dead man walking and will be fired in a year. They’re going to have to dish out multi-year contracts most likely at higher than normal salaries. If I was a good up & coming coach, I sure wouldn’t uproot my family for a one year gig, even if I had a 2 year contract, to go there when a as good or better deal in a more stable situation may come along, unless the money was grossly absurd (and even then I’d have second thoughts).

With all of the coaching changes taking place, there will be plenty of new HC hires (guys with a 4-5 year leash) across the country in need of good quality assistant coaches. I’m hitching my wagon to a HC coming in, not one on the verge of getting fired.
 

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This is ridiculous. Why would Harsin leave Boise for Missouri? He was at Arkansas State as his first head coaching gig, I'd imagine Arkansas would be higher IF he was to leave Boise (where he has it made but only makes $1.55 million). I could see Heupel taking the job though:

 

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The problem is you stack another couple million to pay off his staff, plus salaries for the staff and potential buyout money to hire someone away from elsewhere. It’s a monumental expense and I cannot understand why all these schools continue to put themselves in this situation.

Yeah but they’re having to pay staff buyouts now to the assistant coaches they just fired and they’ll have to give the new hires multi-year deals to entice them to come work there. It probably doesn’t work out to be a $ for $ offset but I’d guess it wouldn’t be too far off the mark. At the end of the day, the HC is the big ticket cost and it only appears to be a huge expense if you compare firing him now vs. keeping him for the duration. If you compare cost of firing him now vs. firing him next year, it seems more palatable.
 

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@BruceFeldmanCFB: SOURCE: Tim Beck is out as OC at #Texas. Tom Herman also has fired WR coach/passing game coordinator Drew Mehringer. Big moves today at UT with DC Todd Orlando also gone.
 

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Muschamp replaces Bammer with LSU on the road on the slate next season. If they get to 6-6, in would be a miracle.
 

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@Brett_McMurphy: Top candidates as new Texas OC are LSU passing QB coordinator Joe Brady & USC OC Graham Harrell, @AnwarRichardson reports
 

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