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The guy's got balls, though. "I'm going to go copy your work for future use. Now, reimburse me for the copies."

Who TF does that?
 

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Alright, I'll play.

My company is over the top generous with expense reimbursement. Luckily, we really dont have a lot of personal expenses. But nearly everyone has a professional organization and is licensed. So we cover all that.

My newest employee has been with us for about a year. He's a royal jackass and is slated to be fired in a few weeks. He's failed his certification exam 3 times now. He just turned in his expenses from last year. One was a $300 bill from the exam company for a "detailed results summary". Which he was interested in because he failed. Another was $190 bill from a "Kinkos" because he took a bunch of our reports and had them copied. We have really nice copiers in every office. AND all the reports are available online for FREE and can be printed directly to our printers at our desk.

I denied both of those. AITA?
I'd pay the exam thing, but not the other.
 

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Alright, I'll play.

My company is over the top generous with expense reimbursement. Luckily, we really dont have a lot of personal expenses. But nearly everyone has a professional organization and is licensed. So we cover all that.

My newest employee has been with us for about a year. He's a royal jackass and is slated to be fired in a few weeks. He's failed his certification exam 3 times now. He just turned in his expenses from last year. One was a $300 bill from the exam company for a "detailed results summary". Which he was interested in because he failed. Another was $190 bill from a "Kinkos" because he took a bunch of our reports and had them copied. We have really nice copiers in every office. AND all the reports are available online for FREE and can be printed directly to our printers at our desk.

I denied both of those. AITA?
If he’s going to be fired soon, why throw good money after bad? You, in this one instance, are not.
 

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I like being the AH, when necessary. I often say that 'not enough people get told about themselves' (meaning - people do sh*t, and get away with it, because nobody ever says anything to them....so they keep doing it). Same with, 'not enough people get punched in the face'. People are a-holes and they DGAF.

I still run quite a bit, but I used to run 2k+ miles a year - a lot of it was on a treadmill. One of my biggest pet peeves is people talking on their cell phone while on the treadmill (anywhere within earshot of me). I had a dude get on the treadmill next to me - I was watching a show on a kindle - he gets on and starts talking, 15+ minutes later I asked him if he'd take the call to the lobby (which was a gym rule), told him I couldn't hear my kindle. He says, "You should turn it up." I stopped the treadmill, turned to him and said, "Wrong f*cking answer, you narcissistic, selfish prick!" He was about 100lbs heavier than me, but totally out of shape. I was about to kick his ass right there. But sure....I'm the a-hole.
 

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I like being the AH, when necessary. I often say that 'not enough people get told about themselves' (meaning - people do sh*t, and get away with it, because nobody ever says anything to them....so they keep doing it). Same with, 'not enough people get punched in the face'. People are a-holes and they DGAF.

I still run quite a bit, but I used to run 2k+ miles a year - a lot of it was on a treadmill. One of my biggest pet peeves is people talking on their cell phone while on the treadmill (anywhere within earshot of me). I had a dude get on the treadmill next to me - I was watching a show on a kindle - he gets on and starts talking, 15+ minutes later I asked him if he'd take the call to the lobby (which was a gym rule), told him I couldn't hear my kindle. He says, "You should turn it up." I stopped the treadmill, turned to him and said, "Wrong f*cking answer, you narcissistic, selfish prick!" He was about 100lbs heavier than me, but totally out of shape. I was about to kick his ass right there. But sure....I'm the a-hole.
YTA for not grabbing his phone and chucking it across the gym. Do better.
 

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I like being the AH, when necessary. I often say that 'not enough people get told about themselves' (meaning - people do sh*t, and get away with it, because nobody ever says anything to them....so they keep doing it). Same with, 'not enough people get punched in the face'. People are a-holes and they DGAF.

I still run quite a bit, but I used to run 2k+ miles a year - a lot of it was on a treadmill. One of my biggest pet peeves is people talking on their cell phone while on the treadmill (anywhere within earshot of me). I had a dude get on the treadmill next to me - I was watching a show on a kindle - he gets on and starts talking, 15+ minutes later I asked him if he'd take the call to the lobby (which was a gym rule), told him I couldn't hear my kindle. He says, "You should turn it up." I stopped the treadmill, turned to him and said, "Wrong f*cking answer, you narcissistic, selfish prick!" He was about 100lbs heavier than me, but totally out of shape. I was about to kick his ass right there. But sure....I'm the a-hole.
How did it turn out?

And really if you aren't listening to your Kindle through earphones, you are both the azzholes :lol:
 

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My company is over the top generous with expense reimbursement.

I have historically sucked at doing expense reports. No reason not to be on point, submitting on time, with receipts. Still, I suck, procrastinate, lose receipts, and generally screw off because 'i dont wanna'.

Hired to my current job in May, with about 30% travel. Submitted expense reports for about a dozen trips in early December. Rejected a few times by my boss for typo errors and such (lack of attention to detail on my part). All in, it was about $11k owed to me - this company has you charge your own card, then get reimbursed. There is no 'corporate card', so I'm eating the interest in dragging my feet. Finally gets past him and on to other approvers (accounting) who nit pick some stuff, and we get approvals by Jan 2-3 on just about everything.

Boss is pissed, because Q3&4 had budget cuts in 2022 due to not meeting sales revenues, but he desperately needed my $11k to hit against last year's budget. It appears, because I waited so long and approvals were in January, it may be hitting his 2023 budget. This wipes out 20% of the department's annual budget for travel. Yes, I know without a doubt, IATAH.
 

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If he’s going to be fired soon, why throw good money after bad? You, in this one instance, are not.

Legal concerns. When someone gets fired, you gotta leave them with absolutely NO outstanding money owed or loose threads for law suits, or any of that crap. Need to nail down company policy with the individual immediately, then fire 'em shortly thereafter.
 

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Legal concerns. When someone gets fired, you gotta leave them with absolutely NO outstanding money owed or loose threads for law suits, or any of that crap. Need to nail down company policy with the individual immediately, then fire 'em shortly thereafter.
I think you may have missed my point. @bradgator2 already explained his justification for denying the reimbursement; the question was whether he (Brad) was an a-hole for doing it. My point was why give him money you could legally deny him whan you had already wasted a bunch of money in salary - as he sounds like a sub-standard employee - on this guy previously? And if he'd been a great employee who had really gone above and beyond for the company and Brad denied the reimbursement, I'd say Brad was an a-hole; even if it were legally OK.
 

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Back in the day... Early 2000s...I worked for a small IT company specializing in financial reporting software. There were approx 100 of us, 80% or so were guys. We had just moved to a new office building and the bathroom facilities left much to be desired. One urinal and two stalls were all we had for 80 guys.

Anyway, one developer started taking extended reading breaks in one of the stalls every day right after lunch. This annoyed most of the tech support staff who only had a set amount of time they could be away from the phone.

It got to be a daily joke. As a dev myself I sat across the aisle from this guy, and I had been pranked by him once or twice. So I waited for his daily reading time during an especially busy Monday afternoon and printed out a sign reading "Shh! Greg's reading room. Do not disturb!" and taped it to the stall door while he was in there. Nobody saw me do it.

Well the reaction was almost immediate. Emails were sent, snickering jokes were made, and Greg just sat there for 30 min completely oblivious. Then when he left, he didn't even see the sign to take it down. So it sat there all day until his manager saw it.

Manager calls Greg in to his office to see what's up with the sign. Greg gets a very mild hand slap because he is mortified his secret is out and manager feels bad for him. Manager then begins the inquisition into who put the sign up.

I never took responsibility for it. Partially because I felt it was justified and partly because a coworker who is a very good friend asked me not to. This guy was known to be a prankster and didn't like Greg much to begin with, and was angling for a severance package during upcoming layoffs. I probably wouldn't have admitted guilt regardless.

Mgmt never did figure out who did it. And my buddy never got that severance. Mgmt knew he wanted the money and made him quit on his own out of spite rather than give it to him. AITA?
 
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I think you may have missed my point. @bradgator2 already explained his justification for denying the reimbursement; the question was whether he (Brad) was an a-hole for doing it. My point was why give him money you could legally deny him whan you had already wasted a bunch of money in salary - as he sounds like a sub-standard employee - on this guy previously? And if he'd been a great employee who had really gone above and beyond for the company and Brad denied the reimbursement, I'd say Brad was an a-hole; even if it were legally OK.

Yeah, the guy has to go. Dangerous. Incompetent. Classic millennial mind set and work ethic. The head scratching stories are endless.

Part 2 of the story is: I made the decision several months to get rid of him. I put him on 90 days probation and one of the conditions to come off probation is unattainable: which is to pass his exam. And he wont be taking his 4th attempt during that 90 days. He never connected the dots that he was really put on a courtesy 90 day notice.

This is an extremely specialized, highly educated (PhD), and hard to fill position. Prior to putting him on probation, I had already interviewed and hired his replacement. His last day is next Friday, she starts the following Monday. And I accomplished all this directly under his nose. AITA?
 

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How did it turn out?

And really if you aren't listening to your Kindle through earphones, you are both the azzholes :lol:
I always wear earphones. How it turned out - an employee saw me laying into him and came over and it ended. The dude complained to the manager. The manager called me over the next day and said they reviewed the security footage and I was in the right. I said, "You motherf*ckers need to enforce the damn rules!" Told them had I gotten into a fist fight w/ the dude I would have looked into a lawsuit (after I got out of jail, of course). I asked them multiple times prior to this incident to enforce that rule, especially in the cardio area. I still can't believe people think to themselves, "Hey, I'll go to the gym...get on the treadmill and talk to my bro's for 30 minutes while I walk!" As Constanza said, "We live in a society!"
 

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Back in the day... Early 2000s...I worked for a small IT company specializing in financial reporting software. There were approx 100 of us, 80% or so were guys. We had just moved to a new office building and the bathroom facilities left much to be desired. One urinal and two stalls were all we had for 80 guys.

Anyway, one developer started taking extended reading breaks in one of the stalls every day right after lunch. This annoyed most of the tech support staff who only had a set amount of time they could be away from the phone.

It got to be a daily joke. As a dev myself I sat across the aisle from this guy, and I had been pranked by him once or twice. So I waited for his daily reading time during an especially busy Monday afternoon and printed out a sign reading "Shh! Greg's reading room. Do not disturb!" and taped it to the stall door while he was in there. Nobody saw me do it.

Well the reaction was almost immediate. Emails were sent, snickering jokes were made, and Greg just sat there for 30 min completely oblivious. Then when he left, he didn't even see the sign to take it down. So it sat there all day until his manager saw it.

Manager calls Greg in to his office to see what's up with the sign. Greg gets a very mild hand slap because he is mortified his secret is out and manager feels bad for him. Manager then begins the inquisition into who put the sign up.

I never took responsibility for it. Partially because I felt it was justified and partly because a coworker who is a very good friend asked me not to. This guy was known to be a prankster and didn't like Greg much to begin with, and was angling for a severance package during upcoming layoffs. I probably wouldn't have admitted guilt regardless.

Mgmt never did figure out who did it. And my buddy never got that severance. Mgmt knew he wanted the money and made him quit on his own out of spite rather than give it to him. AITA?
On the fire department pranks were non-stop, all day long. And nobody would ever "know who did it" - it was "The Phantom". The Phantom was/is a fire department legend. So - you didn't put the sign up, you're a professional, you would never do something like that.....but The Phantom would!! lol TPITA
 

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I always wear earphones. How it turned out - an employee saw me laying into him and came over and it ended. The dude complained to the manager. The manager called me over the next day and said they reviewed the security footage and I was in the right. I said, "You motherf*ckers need to enforce the damn rules!" Told them had I gotten into a fist fight w/ the dude I would have looked into a lawsuit (after I got out of jail, of course). I asked them multiple times prior to this incident to enforce that rule, especially in the cardio area. I still can't believe people think to themselves, "Hey, I'll go to the gym...get on the treadmill and talk to my bro's for 30 minutes while I walk!" As Constanza said, "We live in a society!"
I hate cell phones. I particularly hated the ones that operated like walkie talkies and chirped really loud when the other party would talk.

At my current job we have people who go into the bathroom, sit in the stall, and talk on the phone. I will intentionally go into the stall next to them and repeatedly flush the john until they hang up and leave. Yea I'm the A in that case.
 

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I hate cell phones. I particularly hated the ones that operated like walkie talkies and chirped really loud when the other party would talk.

At my current job we have people who go into the bathroom, sit in the stall, and talk on the phone. I will intentionally go into the stall next to them and repeatedly flush the john until they hang up and leave. Yea I'm the A in that case.
Nextell (I think) - I hated those. Every d*ckhead on the fire department had one of those and thought they were cool AF when it would chirp. Glad that fad didn't last.
 

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Ok, I'll play AITA

A year ago there was a chick flick I wanted to see that the family didn't and my friends were busy. You had to purchase the ticket online and reserve your seat. I picked a prime spot in the center and reclined my seat back ready for the movie. Two ladies came in just before the movie started and tried to sound surprised as they said out loud "Oh look, I guess we can't sit together..." waiting for me to volunteer to move over but I didn't. Finally the one with the worst seat asked if I would trade with her. I said no but I was willing to trade with her friend that had the better of the two seats so we did. Turns out her seat didn't recline so I then moved to the next best empty seat. Minutes later the owner of that seat came and claimed it. Me being the ass hole, I asked for my original seat back because hers wouldn't recline. She obliged but then they furiously texted each other right beside me.

Oh well.

Based on the evidence presented, neither side is an ass hole. You graciously gave up your seat and they graciously gave it back to you when you had a good reason to get it back.

Plot Twist

That said...there may be an ass hole here, but there isn't enough evidence to convict.

Seedy may be an ass hole for not escorting you to said chick flick. If it is a rare occurrence, then depending on how many dude flicks you attend with him, he shoulda taken you. On the other hand, if he hates movies, grudgingly goes to a couple with you, and you insist on watching Hallmark Christmas movies at home and a chick flick in the theater every couple of months, then you're the ass hole.

On the other hand, if Seedy has done his husbandly duty by taking you to a chick flick every now and then, then he's not an ass hole for not joining you on this particular foray. However, you're probably an ass hole. Why? Because you don't have a chick friend to go to the chick flick with.

A chick with no chick friends willing to meet up for Starbucks, a mani/pedi, and a chick flick has got to be an ass hole in the eyes of all the other chicks in town.

Of course that might not make you a REAL ass hole, just an ass hole in the eyes of those catty jealous b!tches.





Alex.
 

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Alright, I'll play.

My company is over the top generous with expense reimbursement. Luckily, we really dont have a lot of personal expenses. But nearly everyone has a professional organization and is licensed. So we cover all that.

My newest employee has been with us for about a year. He's a royal jackass and is slated to be fired in a few weeks. He's failed his certification exam 3 times now. He just turned in his expenses from last year. One was a $300 bill from the exam company for a "detailed results summary". Which he was interested in because he failed. Another was $190 bill from a "Kinkos" because he took a bunch of our reports and had them copied. We have really nice copiers in every office. AND all the reports are available online for FREE and can be printed directly to our printers at our desk.

I denied both of those. AITA?

You are not the ass hole.

Well, you know what I mean.


Alex.
 

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